1 hour ago, Swooper1987 said:

It just doesn't make any sense to me.  Fremantle have a genuine star ruck in Darcy.  Jackson at 199cm has actually yet to prove he's a competitive ruckman in any more than 5-8 minute bursts.  You have a super talented young list at Freo, paying in effect a second ruck and not particularly effective key forward 10 mill over 7 years is not the sort of call I'd expect from the Freo admin.  Now WCE, that might be a different story!

Darcy is a genuine A grader but he is their Joel Smith in regards to injuries.

Edited June 19, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

19 hours ago, adonski said:

Should have taken Tom Green

Yeah nah,  Even if we called his name out GWS were always taking him as an Academy player. 

3 minutes ago, grazman said:

Yeah nah,  Even if we called his name out GWS were always taking him as an Academy player. 

I think they were keener on Jackson, and would have let us take Green. Or so the rumour goes?

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

Isn’t there a rule that says you can’t trade someone you have just signed?

You mean the short-lived Caracella clause.  I think that's dead.  

 

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Isn’t there a rule that says you can’t trade someone you have just signed?

It seems a redundant rule, given players have to agree to be traded anyway.

It would be a reasonable rule (ie can't trade a player in the first trade period after resigning them) if clubs were allowed to trade contracted players without needing their consent (to balance free agency).

The Sumich rumour of >$10m over 7 years is obviously outside good reason.

Gawn wouldn't even be close to that amount of coin.

Jackson is an excellent footballer with serious energy and he's fun to watch as well, but he's not team-defining.

Oddly, right now the club which probably gets the most value from Jackson would be the Demons. Obviously we need him while Gawn recovers and we also get great value out of him as a contrasting style with Gawn. That lasts for as many years as it does and then Jackson will be a bit more developed and a bit more experienced in ruck, and take over the No1 role. It looks like the perfect career path for a young ruckman, really.

Meanwhile we would clearly be looking to find some big-bodied beast to play forward-ruck in future (or right now if it were possible) and provide another contrasting type of tall.

Oh dear god no... I just realised there is a scenario here where we end up taking Tom Scully.

2 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

The way he performs in the next 3 games will give a clearer indication to his likely intentions and whether we remain committed to keeping him or not. 

Please explain how it will show his intentions?  I'm guessing you are looking at how well he plays and maybe how enthusiastically he plays (or some similar observable behaviour).  So the cases are:

Well and enthusiastic

Well and not enthusiastic

Poor and enthusiastic

Poor and not enthusiastic.

What can you deduce from any of those outcomes, either of his intentions or the club's? Genuinly interested - not rubbishing your statement.  (I'm assuming the club doesn't show its intentions by leaving him on the bench for 50% of the time and the other 50% at Casey!)

So let’s say he goes, what’s our best scenario as a club, a third club could be part of any deal.

43 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Meanwhile we would clearly be looking to find some big-bodied beast to play forward-ruck in future (or right now if it were possible) and provide another contrasting type of tall.

Chol would be handy for us now, helping up forward and in the ruck.

 

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

If both stay then something will have to gives sadly. Would be a shame if it's Harmes though, grew up a Melbourne supporter and kept faith by signing a long contract after our 2019 season.

11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Chol would be handy for us now, helping up forward and in the ruck.

Peter Wright went for a 4th round pick.

7 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

Harmesy will always be a Demon Legend, for “That Kick”

Sumich has made some pretty stupid assumptions to do with Hogan as well and I think when Cox was doing the rounds.

I’d heard a rumour about Harmes to Richmond or Norf (longer contract) before this Jay Z comment so there might be something going on there…

On 6/18/2022 at 5:22 PM, whatwhat say what said:

Wish him all the best; if that’s true there’s no way he can say no and stay at the MFC

Serong and Young and next year’s first rounder...for starters

Pick #3 on paper is worth more than 2 of Freos first rounders likely to be 2 x 14-18. Now LJ on what we have seen is probably more like #2 and almost nudging Rowell out so that makes him worth even more.

I would say Freos 1st round picks in 2022 and 2023 and Lobb for LJ and our 3rd round pick in 2023 if they are offering that sort of coin. They can also cover 30-40 % of Lobbs contract. 
 

Will also mean they will struggle to get Gus onto their list so that’s a bonus.

22 minutes ago, The Jackson 6 said:

I’d heard a rumour about Harmes to Richmond or Norf (longer contract) before this Jay Z comment so there might be something going on there…

We couldn’t send him to Norf. That would be such a bad thing to do. 

47 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Harmesy will always be a Demon Legend, for “That Kick”

Strikes me as the sort of bloke who would stay for a pay cut. Heart and soul player 

8 hours ago, Thehardtackler said:

I shall happily take 3 first round picks for Jackson and nothing less than that.

Serong and Young for Jackson should do it 

Harmes has two years on his contract (OOC 2024 when he will be 29) so if he goes it will be because he thinks it is good for him. 

Doubt he is on high $ so it might be his best chance to build his financial future especially if a longer contract and extend his career into his 30's. 

He has fulfilled every possible football dream.  Drafted to the team he followed, became part of the regular 22 and most of all has a premiership medal.  What a dream come true for a once-upon-a-time, rookie.

Will always be a demon through and through.

Hate seeing one of our players go at any time but would still be happy for Harmes - he has given all he has to the red and blue. 

Edited June 19, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

5 hours ago, Swooper1987 said:

It just doesn't make any sense to me.  Fremantle have a genuine star ruck in Darcy.  Jackson at 199cm has actually yet to prove he's a competitive ruckman in any more than 5-8 minute bursts.  You have a super talented young list at Freo, paying in effect a second ruck and not particularly effective key forward 10 mill over 7 years is not the sort of call I'd expect from the Freo admin.  Now WCE, that might be a different story!

You missed the fact he is only 20, Rising Star winner, premiership player and without his influence we don’t win the flag.  A generational player.  
I still think he stays short-term but the longer it goes the more nerve racking it gets. 

If they pay LJ that sort of money, what do they pay Darcy?

 

It really doesn’t make sense and I don’t trust the information.

5 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

If they pay LJ that sort of money, what do they pay Darcy?

 

It really doesn’t make sense and I don’t trust the information.

Exactly. As if the Freo powerbrokers are going to let that slip to Peter Sumich 🤣

53 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Harmes has two years on his contract (OOC 2024 when he will be 29) so if he goes it will be because he thinks it is good for him. 

Doubt he is on high $ so it might be his best chance to build his financial future especially if a longer contract and extend his career into his 30's. 

He has fulfilled every possible football dream.  Drafted to the team he followed, became part of the regular 22 and most of all has a premiership medal.  What a dream come true for a once-upon-a-time, rookie.

Will always be a demon through and through.

Hate seeing one of our players go at any time but would still be happy for Harmes - he has given all he has to the red and blue. 

Would you be leaving your life long mates for just some more dollars.There are players that are loyal.