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Gary Ayres Player of the Finals

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Not that it matters that much, but this award has to be meaningless, considering that some players have more games to play in. MacRae beat Tracc by 2 votes after playing in 4 games, compared to Tracc’s 3 games.

Surely you would weight the votes, if you wanted the award to stand for something.

 

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    Surely for this medal to be taken seriously, it ought to be weighted. This year's winner played 4 Finals, our boys played 3. The winner had a very dud Grand Final. The epitome of a Pyrrhic Victory, I would have thought. 

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    It’s a bit like winning a long distance race because you ran the furthest, even though it took you 5 days - while the Ethiopian bloke did a kilometre less, but in 90 minutes.

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    Yeah, the votes really should be normalised for the number of games played but hey, it has always been done like this and Macrae was a really good player across the series. In the end we have the medals that count and Trac’s grand final as well as Max’s prelim will go down as 2 of the best anyone has played. 
    I’ve gotta say, I’m feeling pretty happy about what the boys have achieved.

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    Ridiculous that it isn’t awarded based off average points per game. Literally punishes the players who win QFs…

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    hmmm, it's a bit like a participation award.

    Always been a fan of those.

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    16 minutes ago, Hayden Junt said:

    Ridiculous that it isn’t awarded based off average points per game. Literally punishes the players who win QFs…

    Avg pts per game is problematic too - e.g. a BoG in a losing elim final team - but yes, definitely there should be a correction for teams that skip through to a prelim. The current system is a joke.

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    4 minutes ago, old55 said:

    Biggest joke ever:

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/682327/star-dog-clinches-gary-ayres-award-coaches-votes-for-gf-revealed

    He'll treasure that one.  "Yes, 2021 ... the year we stumbled into the finals, and only beat Brissie with the umps' help, flogged Port who weren't even on the ground, and then got blown away in that historic ten minutes of football ... yeah, well, I was the best player in the finals that year ........ no? Well .... do you want see my collection of etchings maybe?"

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    Ridiculous to do it solely from 3, 2, 1 of each game. Stick your neck out and say who was the best player. Trac by a country margin is the player of the finals because in every important moment he stepped up and got us to the premiership. 

    I don’t think Trac will lose a moments sleep from it though. 

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    Not even the best players the Dogs had in their 3 finals. Hilarious. 

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    12 minutes ago, BDA said:

    does anyone really care?

    As I was walking down the street one day ♪
    A man came up to me and told me
    I had won the Gary Ayres award
    And I said ...

    Does anybody really know what time it is?
    Does anybody really care? ♫
    If so, I can't imagine why
    We've all got time enough to cry

    As I was walking down the street one day
    A pretty lady looked at me
    And said I saw you in the Dees blitzkrieg ♪
    And I said ...

    Does anybody really know what time it is?
    Does anybody really care? ♫
    If so, I can't imagine why
    We've all got time enough to cry

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    Should be average with minimum 3 games to have any credibility. I'm sure it won't take pride of place at the McRae house

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    When I read this, I almost choked on my fifth beer for the day, spilling it down the front of the guernsey I haven’t taken off in 3 days

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    2 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

    When I read this, I almost choked on my fifth beer for the day, spilling it down the front of the guernsey I haven’t taken off in 3 days

    Was it anything to do with what was written here, or is it just because you're still sozzled from Sat nite?

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    27 minutes ago, BDA said:

    does anyone really care?

    Exactly, actually I'm glad our boys don't rate the individual accolades this year, can u imagine Oliver won the brownlow but we lost in Saturday night what a empty feeling, keep winning premierships nothing else comes close 

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    "Macrae didn't poll in the Grand Final" says it all.

    Surely the simple solution is that all players get their three best games counted.

    Done, issue over. Still fair to the four-game players without giving any ridiculous advantage.

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    6 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    Was it anything to do with what was written here, or is it just because you're still sozzled from Sat nite?

    When I read that Macrae had won that medal

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    Gary Ayres didn’t even deserve his norm smith in 1988.

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    7.6 pts per game vs 6.3 says Trac was better.

    9 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    "Macrae didn't poll in the Grand Final" says it all.

    Surely the simple solution is that all players get their three best games counted.

    Done, issue over. Still fair to the four-game players without giving any ridiculous advantage.

    If that was the case, then McRae still win doesn’t he?

    I think you just remove the SF from the calculations so the EF/QF, PF and GF are the games that poll.

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    I think it’s insignificant Trac has 2 medals from 2021 McRae would love

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