I saw the thread title and thought Redleg had a major problem with the umpires. In fact, I reckon he should be banned for a week for posting such a thing. Respect all umpires please!!!!

5 hours ago, Old Bear said:

Great News 

Best going around and grew up barracking for us

Very early in his career Jacob Mollison worked for a bank and I met him at a property settlement. He didn’t quite let on that he supported Melbourne but mentioned he thought there was a family connection. Perhaps he was being diplomatic but I have to say that I’ve never felt that he was biased in our favour or against which suggests to me that he’s a very good umpire. Razor Ray is fine but I think he’s been ruled out because he missed the two preliminary finals. 

Stevic’s good - take your pick of the others. At that level they’re all pretty good.

Razor Ray is not umpiring finals.

I really don't care as long as it is not that swill in the swine Nichols. 

I do not like Stevic or Nicholls.

Shame Razor won't be there. Loves the Dees and specially Angus.

If whoever gets let's it go like they did in the prelim that'll do me.

Could not bear a game decided by contentious decisions. 

6 hours ago, Deeman said:

I saw the thread title and thought Redleg had a major problem with the umpires. In fact, I reckon he should be banned for a week for posting such a thing. Respect all umpires please!!!!

I thought the same!

10 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

Razor Ray is not umpiring finals.

He umpired the first two weeks and was emergency last weekend.

However I would say the 3 umpires this weekend would come from the 6 that umpired last weekend.

Umps have been announced

Matt Stevic’s reputation as one of the AFL’s best and most respected umpires has been strengthened, with the whistle-blower selected to oversee his ninth Grand Final in 10 seasons.

Foxfooty.com.au understands Stevic will officiate Saturday night’s Melbourne-Western Bulldogs decider in Perth alongside fellow 400-plus game veteran Brett Rosebury and Jacob Mollison, who’ll make his Grand Final debut in his 14th season.

Stevic, Rosebury and Mollison have been picked ahead of six-time Grand Final umpire Simon Meredith, who’s been named as the emergency for the match, as well as preliminary final officiators Robert Findlay and Chris Donlon.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-umpires-2021-appointments-afl-news-2021-melbourne-vs-western-bulldogs-umpire-stats-matt-stevic-brett-rosebury-jacob-mollison/news-story/0e9aedb063fff06c3f74583bb181fd47?fbclid=IwAR3Ih7ctifJbOATuhorBncbp9-8Vkg6-m9Y3aAuZ_4QXr1dPuqEkMdWPqVQ

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by DeesignerAU

Rosebury #8 and Stevic #9 had the Bulldogs v Port Prelim. Free kick count in that game was 22 Port to 16 Bulldogs; against trend!

Mollison #32 had our Prelim.

 

Well thank god #22 isn’t there. He is the absolute biggest Melbourne hater. 

That tweet has a lot of replies about Stevic. Was he there in 2016?

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by david_neitz_is_my_dad

6 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

That tweet has a lot of replies about Stevic. Was he there in 2016?

He was, he has umpired now 9 of the last 10 grand finals inc this coming Saturday. 

Decent result with the umpires. Rosebury and Stevic are decent, Mollison I haven't noticed much so that's probably a good thing.
Would have liked Razor but he wasn't going to be on the cards after being a reserve prelim week.
 

Was Mollison the umpire that stuffed up the deliberate call in our loss against Adelaide?

He certainly umpired in that game.

Anyone have any stats on these guys record in Demons and Bulldogs games?

None of these umpires did either of our games this year.

In total we've had those any of those 3 officiate 7 of our games (with 2 doing the Brissy final), in total we received 20 less free kicks than our opposition in those games.

The Dogs had any of those 3 officiate 11 of their games (2 did their last final). In total they got an additional 51 free kicks in those games. 

The dogs only had 2 negative games (which included the Port final), whereas we only had 1 positive game (and one nil game). 

We had Mollison for 5 of our games and our free kick count was -5 different, Roesbury was -8 (1 game) and Stevic was -7 (2 games).

For the Dogs, Rosebury was +44 (8 games), Stevic was 0 (3 games) and Mollison was +1 (1 game). 

I just hope these three umpire with honesty and integrity I would be happy with a repeat of the Prelim umpiring performance. Comeon Umps you can do this.!!

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Note to Demonland :

Please forward the below excerpt from AFL official 'Rules of the Game' to the GF Umpires, from Section D, Game Rules and specifically when free kicks are awarded, just to refresh their memories, in case they think the Doggies have afree pass on ball transfer by hand.

Its against the rule guys to throw the ball. The last part in brackets and itallics is my suggested addendum to Gil for consideration by the AFL Rules Committee. Please pass this on also.

 

"...18.12 OTHER

A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player who: (a) Throws the football; (b) hands the football to another Player;..." (Umpires must take note of this rule whilst officiating at any and all Western Bulldogs Football Club matches against any other duly incorporated AFL member club.)

4 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

Umps have been announced

Matt Stevic’s reputation as one of the AFL’s best and most respected umpires has been strengthened, with the whistle-blower selected to oversee his ninth Grand Final in 10 seasons.

Foxfooty.com.au understands Stevic will officiate Saturday night’s Melbourne-Western Bulldogs decider in Perth alongside fellow 400-plus game veteran Brett Rosebury and Jacob Mollison, who’ll make his Grand Final debut in his 14th season.

Stevic, Rosebury and Mollison have been picked ahead of six-time Grand Final umpire Simon Meredith, who’s been named as the emergency for the match, as well as preliminary final officiators Robert Findlay and Chris Donlon.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-umpires-2021-appointments-afl-news-2021-melbourne-vs-western-bulldogs-umpire-stats-matt-stevic-brett-rosebury-jacob-mollison/news-story/0e9aedb063fff06c3f74583bb181fd47?fbclid=IwAR3Ih7ctifJbOATuhorBncbp9-8Vkg6-m9Y3aAuZ_4QXr1dPuqEkMdWPqVQ

This is not about the umpires per se, but what's with the line "Foxfooty.com.au understands Stevic will officiate..." after having explicitly stated in the previous paragraph that Stevic has been appointed? Very dodgy journalism...but I guess that's the norm these days. 

This isn't great for us.  I went through the stats...   I know there are 3 umpires each game, I don't have access to individual decisions to go deeper.  If the FF/FA difference was less than 3 I called that EVEN/NEUTRAL.

FOR THE DEMONS

Mollison has umpired us 5 times this year.  These games were mostly neutral (1 negative with Stevic).

We've had Rosebury only once this year for a -8 count (R12 v Lions)

We've had Stevic twice for a -7 (R18 v Hawks) and a -6 (R23 v Cats) 

So one neutral, two negative.

FOR THE BULLDOGS

Mollison umpired them only once for a neutral count (R6)

Rosebury has umpired them 8 times this year and it's not pretty.  Even, +9, +3, +10, +13, +3, +8 and a -6 (prelim)

Stevic has umpired them 3 times this year for  a -3, +9 and -6 (prelim).

So one very positive, two neutral.

SUMMARY

Rosebury has been involved in a lot of games for the dogs this year where they have had a very good run.  The only game he umpired us wasn't in our favour.  

Stevic has had two games this year adjudicating our games and neither were in our favour.  

Mollison has been involved in mostly neutral games.  

 

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by hells bells
typos

Also Stevic umpired the 2016 Swans v Dogs GF which I still think was one of the worst displays of umpiring I've ever seen.  That was a +12 in favour of the Dogs.  

7 minutes ago, hells bells said:

Also Stevic umpired the 2016 Swans v Dogs GF which I still think was one of the worst displays of umpiring I've ever seen.  That was a +12 in favour of the Dogs.  

Didn't the Swan make a stink about that. If so, perhaps it will inhibit him from doing so again.

2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

I just hope these three umpire with honesty and integrity I would be happy with a repeat of the Prelim umpiring performance. Comeon Umps you can do this.!!

Our prelim umps let them play and let the players sort out the winner. Mid 20's total frees for the game is about right. Too many frees in the other prelim...high 30's is going to kill the flow of the game.

Hope these guys stay out of it and let the players decide it. Not sure how i would react if we cop Sydney's 2016 run.

4 hours ago, Jaded said:

Well thank god #22 isn’t there. He is the absolute biggest Melbourne hater. 

Nar he's much worse than that!

Is "umparanoia" a word? If so, it's to be found here.