1 hour ago, adonski said:

Take it with a grain of salt but heard whispers on Sparrow to Crows...💌

Why would we trade him when he is contracted for another year and value can only increase. Crows would need to be paying massive overs, something like a mid first round pick given he was taken at 27 and shown himself to be at least capable.

1 minute ago, Garbo said:

Why would we trade him when he is contracted for another year and value can only increase. Crows would need to be paying massive overs, something like a mid first round pick given he was taken at 27 and shown himself to be at least capable.

I agree.

I doubt we’d entertain a trade for him unless we got Cerra through the door. 

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Like Oliver he's clean inside the contest and his vision is also very similar. Just a typical midfield brute who plays similar to say Josh Kennedy from the Swans. Has a solid vertical leap on him which gives him a chance to take some good marks also.

I would say if there was one thing he could work on it was his outside game? Quite one dimensional but so was Oliver in his under 18s year. He's worked incredibly hard and now has the perfect balance.

He's definitely your Simon Goodwin/Jason Taylor type pick.

Smith won the Bushies best and fairest in his last year back in 2018 so he definitely had the credits in the bank as well as his impressive Vic Country performance. 

Thanks mate. Interesting we were still looking at inside mids then. I still believe we lack another clean bull. They don't have to be an A++er like Oliver, but if Oliver goes down, I think our midfield will too. He's been incredibly durable, but I hope we continue targeting the right inside mids.

Just now, A F said:

Thanks mate. Interesting we were still looking at inside mids then. I still believe we lack another clean bull. They don't have to be an A++er like Oliver, but if Oliver goes down, I think our midfield will too. He's been incredibly durable, but I hope we continue targeting the right inside mids.

I agree 100%.

Whilst touch wood we've been lucky this year so far, it'll only take a Oliver or Petracca to go down and that's where we are still bit light.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well it's not..

They'll drop a few spots down the ladder, but will still make finals.

If anything its good for them. He'll be 29 next year and for a bloke that racks it up a fair bit he doesn't really have any hurt factor.

He's also part of their slow on ball brigade that's been killed by top sides due to their lack of pace.

They'll get a good 1st rounder and there's a bloke by the name of Deven Robertson who'll step straight into that role after another good solid pre season.

Pretty good short term replacement for Cerra as well for Freo so a bit of a win for them, Brisbane should get at least a top 10 pick in return, had this happened a week earlier they might have had a chat to Matt Crouch to see if he was keen to move North

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mitch Robinson likes the news 

I agree, they were robbed last night.

Mad Monday should be exciting at Brisbane

Watch the players run for the hills when MR turns up as Al Capone carrying a violin case 

Easy to tell the tweet was fake - it did not have the blue tick. There is a white one.

I know the focus has been on Cerra and Maynard of late. I would love either in our side but with all things being equal, if there was a chance of landing Ben King end of next year (and I'm sure we have asked the question to his management already) then we should do everything possible to start clearing up cap space and determine the necessary drafting capital to get the deal done.  

Our midfield and backline is young enough to endure. BBB and TMac will hold it together for another year but having Kingy will be similar to how Richmond landed Tom Lynch. 

 

5 minutes ago, CYB said:

I know the focus has been on Cerra and Maynard of late. I would love either in our side but with all things being equal, if there was a chance of landing Ben King end of next year (and I'm sure we have asked the question to his management already) then we should do everything possible to start clearing up cap space and determine the necessary drafting capital to get the deal done.  

Our midfield and backline is young enough to endure. BBB and TMac will hold it together for another year but having Kingy will be similar to how Richmond landed Tom Lynch. 

 

Having Ben King would shore up our key forward position for the next 10 years.

It's a pipe dream but I think clubs like Essendon with a bit more cap maybe be able to offer better coin.

12 hours ago, A F said:

Thanks mate. Interesting we were still looking at inside mids then. I still believe we lack another clean bull. They don't have to be an A++er like Oliver, but if Oliver goes down, I think our midfield will too. He's been incredibly durable, but I hope we continue targeting the right inside mids.

I think Cerra would be a great get and I agree that Oliver and Petracca are critical members of our midfield.

But I don't think we're as thin as you believe.  Sure we would suffer if one of them went down but we have Brayshaw on the wing to come back into the midfield and Viney, Harmes, JJ and Sparrow who have all proven themselves capable and the latter two will only be better next year.

For example: Petracca, Brayshaw, Viney, Harmes, Sparrow in the middle and JJ to the wing is still competitive 

I don't think we need to sell the farm to get Cerra which is what it may take.

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by Pollyanna

44 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Having Ben King would shore up our key forward position for the next 10 years.

It's a pipe dream but I think clubs like Essendon with a bit more cap maybe be able to offer better coin.

i got the sense that they are not great cap wise either - the way they played hard ball with Stringer.. just a hunch so maybe wrong. 

It certainly is the missing piece and to get it done whilst keeping enough coin for Oliver, LJ, Kozzy & Rivers, we will need to make a sacrifice.

14 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

It's reported that his wife who is 6 months pregnant with first child, wants to return to be more connected with family, whilst raising her own. It looks as though he is acting in his wife's, his child and his own best well-being interest.

The only thing that matters in life is family and friends and the connection you have with them, and its pretty pronounced in these Covid times,  when you have an absence of connection to them.

It is certainly good that he is looking after his wife and family.  I am just glad we have players that put the club ahead of their personal stuff.  I imagine we would have players with partners that would like to move for career or family reasons but they put the club first. 

If friends and family is so important then why walk out on Freo for a 5 year deal in Brisbane?  he seems from the outside like he looks like he puts himself and his family first and his club is just his place of work and nothing more

11 minutes ago, DubDee said:

It is certainly good that he is looking after his wife and family.  I am just glad we have players that put the club ahead of their personal stuff.  I imagine we would have players with partners that would like to move for career or family reasons but they put the club first. 

If friends and family is so important then why walk out on Freo for a 5 year deal in Brisbane?  he seems from the outside like he looks like he puts himself and his family first and his club is just his place of work and nothing more

Perhaps he didn't like the then current culture at Freo, or the incumbent coach. Like most people, I assume he had every intention of honouring that deal with Brisbane - but things change, things evolve and 'what matters' becomes clearer, even if you are contracted and even if its in a 3 year period.

Is it a problem that things evolve, that people change their mind? I can't imagine the club has had no idea of his intentions until it was released in the media post last match of the season. And yes, it is just a place of work. Just like yours, with really important relationships, some less important, and yet still pragmatic decisions made about your families future.

Brisbane can choose to make him honour his contract (what other industry would do that for a human for another two years) but at what cost?

I actually think the AFL industry does a really good job of being transparent and helping employees that want to move on, get to a place of employment that they want to. Supporters are the ones that get blindsided due to their emotional baggage.

 

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by Engorged Onion

Given there has been very limited travel allowed interstate over the last 18 months and he has a job that allows him to easily shift back home, why the hell wouldn't he try?

You can not really argue with his output at Brisbane, he's not a Dayne Beams style mercenary.

Their draft capital is going to be very, very good after this and there are a couple of readymade starting mids available for trade, in Parker and Tom Mitchell, if they prefer

 

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by BW511

29 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Perhaps he didn't like the then current culture at Freo, or the incumbent coach. Like most people, I assume he had every intention of honouring that deal with Brisbane - but things change, things evolve and 'what matters' becomes clearer, even if you are contracted and even if its in a 3 year period.

Is it a problem that things evolve, that people change their mind? I can't imagine the club has had no idea of his intentions until it was released in the media post last match of the season. And yes, it is just a place of work. Just like yours, with really important relationships, some less important, and yet still pragmatic decisions made about your families future.

Brisbane can choose to make him honour his contract (what other industry would do that for a human for another two years) but at what cost?

I actually think the AFL industry does a really good job of being transparent and helping employees that want to move on, get to a place of employment that they want to. Supporters are the ones that get blindsided due to their emotional baggage.

 

I don't have a problem with what he is doing, I am just commenting that Neale seems less focused on winning a flag and honouring contracts than the average player. He has a great opportunity with the Lions over the next couple of years. Freo should push on but are unlikely to be top 4 for a while yet

As you mention we have no idea of the his motivations and specific circumstances but I do find it curious

as much as id hate to admit it, I wouldnt be surprised, given our draft pick situation that in order to get Cerra, we might give up Brayshaw who might be happy to go. 

Im sure someone will start the Brayshaw to Freo conversation again!!

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by BScotti

12 minutes ago, BScotti said:

we might give up Brayshaw who might be happy to go. 

I've thought that all year. Brayshaw being played on the wing (by mutual agreement and clearly a win/win) feels like when James Frawley was played in the forward line for 5 months - telegraphing his move out of the club...mind you, happy if he stays.

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by Engorged Onion

The way Brayshaw talks about the wingers club he ain't going anywhere

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by ucanchoose

22 minutes ago, BScotti said:

as much as id hate to admit it, I wouldnt be surprised, given our draft pick situation that in order to get Cerra, we might give up Brayshaw who might be happy to go. 

Im sure someone will start the Brayshaw to Freo conversation again!!

Anyone who watching the Gus and Gawny podcasts knows Gus is a very important part of the culture we continue to build 

Remove elements of that at your peril

Personally rather have Gus playing for us than Cerra - not sure what the fuss is about him tbh

Brayshaw is not looking for a move, if one is made it has come from the coaching/list management team.

And highly highly unlikely to happen.

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by Mach5

Brayshaw is a Melbourne (city) boy through and through there is no go home factor there. His parents are here his GF is from here, his mates are here, the only ppl not here are his brothers. 

Edited September 6, 20213 yr by Garbo

We are two games away from penultimate success why are we even discussing one of our leaders. Loose lips sink ships, stand firm behind the total group.!!!

17 hours ago, adonski said:

Take it with a grain of salt but heard whispers on Sparrow to Crows...💌

While its possible I reckon Sparrow would be crazy. He's had a breakout game in a final and will likely be a regular 22 next year for us. The seem to love him at the Dees.

Against struggling a the crows for the next 2-3 years? Yuk

52 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

We are two games away from penultimate success

(Not) sorry to be a pedant but, if we win the next two games, this week will be the penultimate and the Grand Final would then be the ultimate.