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Bayley Fritsch cleared of striking

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2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

They just said on the radio they are looking at it today 

I reckon he will get a week 

Then we should challenge it

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    When does the MRC spin their wheel? 
     

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    It’s likely he’ll get a 1 or two week suspension. Interestingly, his brother, Darcy kicked 20 goals for Coldstream FC on Saturday 24th April.

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    If he does get a week then we have to challenge.

    To compare to recent incident dismissed:

    Fritsch - In play accidental forearm to head of opposition player who was a waste height bending down to bump/tackle. Fritsch is bracing for contact with split second time to react and the opposition player played out the game. Fritsch has no MRP record.

    Hawkins - In play accidental elbow to the face caved in Mays eye socket and he missed the remainder of the match and subsequent weeks match. Hawkins also has a horrible MRP record.

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    9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    If he does get a week then we have to challenge.

    To compare to recent incident dismissed:

    Fritsch - In play accidental forearm to head of opposition player who was a waste height bending down to bump/tackle. Fritsch is bracing for contact with split second time to react and the opposition player played out the game. Fritsch has no MRP record.

    Hawkins - In play accidental elbow to the face caved in Mays eye socket and he missed the remainder of the match and subsequent weeks match. Hawkins also has a horrible MRP record.

    forget the may incident, it is considered, rightly or wrongly, a purely accidental incident

    no comparison to fritta incident

    i'm sure there are many similar fend off incidents where no suspension resulted. these are the ones his defence (if necessary) need to reference

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    12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    If he does get a week then we have to challenge.

    To compare to recent incident dismissed:

    Fritsch - In play accidental forearm to head of opposition player who was a waste height bending down to bump/tackle. Fritsch is bracing for contact with split second time to react and the opposition player played out the game. Fritsch has no MRP record.

    Hawkins - In play accidental elbow to the face caved in Mays eye socket and he missed the remainder of the match and subsequent weeks match. Hawkins also has a horrible MRP record.

    I’m really not sure you can use the Hawkins incident as a comparison for a favourable decision for Fritsch. Hawkins was facing away from May and therefore makes an easier case for accidental. Fritsch on the other hand was looking straight at his tackler, and tried to fend him off, making it so much harder to claim accidental. 

    I think we will need a way better argument to consider an appeal, should the worst happen.

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    1 hour ago, PaulRB said:

    When does the MRC spin their wheel? 
     

    The MRO Monday results have been released after 6pm.

    I still can't work out why most of you think he'll get off.

    He elbowed someone in the head, and that player went off hurt which automatically rules out low impact.

    At best:

    Careless, high contact, medium impact = 1 week.

    If the MFC deem that an injustice, then it's up to them to challenge at the tribunal.

     

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    3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    The MRO Monday results have been released after 6pm.

    I still can't work out why most of you think he'll get off.

    He elbowed someone in the head, and that player went off hurt which automatically rules out low impact.

    At best:

    Careless, high contact, medium impact = 1 week.

    If the MFC deem that an injustice, then it's up to them to challenge at the tribunal.

     

    dislike but agree

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    7 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

    I’m really not sure you can use the Hawkins incident as a comparison for a favourable decision for Fritsch. Hawkins was facing away from May and therefore makes an easier case for accidental. Fritsch on the other hand was looking straight at his tackler, and tried to fend him off, making it so much harder to claim accidental. 

    I think we will need a way better argument to consider an appeal, should the worst happen.

    I agree... however, some on here were calling for Hawkins' head, claiming he has form and that it was intentional because he's somehow incredibly good at concealing his intentions, yet those same people are probably going to get upset if Fritsch goes for what does appear to be a forearm that could possibly have been avoided (it's a very bad look regardless).  I will be very (pleasantly) surprised if he doesn't get a week.

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    Nothing but a fine. Careless/low contact. No concussion or injury and returned to the field. Such an overreaction, as usual 

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    30 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    forget the may incident, it is considered, rightly or wrongly, a purely accidental incident

    no comparison to fritta incident

    i'm sure there are many similar fend off incidents where no suspension resulted. these are the ones his defence (if necessary) need to reference

    Kind of like when Doug and Dinsdale Piranha had to nail Vince's  head to the floor. Smashing blokes, those Dinsdales:

     

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    24 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    The MRO Monday results have been released after 6pm.

    I still can't work out why most of you think he'll get off.

    He elbowed someone in the head, and that player went off hurt which automatically rules out low impact.

    At best:

    Careless, high contact, medium impact = 1 week.

    If the MFC deem that an injustice, then it's up to them to challenge at the tribunal.

     

    Not disagreeing, but how did the same criteria not result in Hawkins getting a week? 

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    18 hours ago, dice said:

    Gotta love the media when it comes to elbows:

     

    Like all of us here, I want Fritta to play and I don't think he was intending to hurt the guy, but he was certainly intending to make contact, so you couldn't call that an accident.

    That said, I have the feeling he'll escape penalty. There are a few precedents that should help.

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    1 minute ago, bush demon said:

    Kind of like when Doug and Dinsdale Piranha had to nail Vince's  head to the floor. Smashing blokes, those Dinsdales:

     

    Stig O’Tracey and Vince “Snetterton” Lewis were such shady characters...

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    1 minute ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

    Like all of us here, I want Fritta to play and I don't think he was intending to hurt the guy, but he was certainly intending to make contact, so you couldn't call that an accident.

    That said, I have the feeling he'll escape penalty. There are a few precedents that should help.

    Brian "there's nothing in that" Taylor, Channel 7's correct-elbow etiquette correspondent.

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    1 minute ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

    Like all of us here, I want Fritta to play and I don't think he was intending to hurt the guy, but he was certainly intending to make contact, so you couldn't call that an accident.

    That said, I have the feeling he'll escape penalty. There are a few precedents that should help.

    He didn’t intend to flatten someone, he braced for contact. He instinctively raised his arm to protect himself having his ribs broken by an opposition player barreling into him low at waist and chest height. He raised his arm instinctively to protect an injured hand in a brace, and did well not to raise his arm or shoulder any higher. He actually prevented serious injury by not following through.

    If he’s suspended, then we should challenge.

    If he’s suspended, then contact rules of the game need to be altered as a result, as players should be allowed to brace themselves for heavy contact.

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    4 minutes ago, bush demon said:

    Brian "there's nothing in that" Taylor, Channel 7's correct-elbow etiquette correspondent.

    You're on fire today Bush D.

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    Given that Fritta's forearm initially contacted Powell's arm below the shoulder but moved up based on Powell lowering himself, I cannot see how a suspension can result. 

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    7 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

    Not disagreeing, but how did the same criteria not result in Hawkins getting a week? 

    It seems it all depends on the AFL definitions for accidental vs careless. Is it as simple as if you aren’t looking at the guy you hit, it’s accidental. If you are looking at him it’s careless?

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    54 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    forget the may incident, it is considered, rightly or wrongly, a purely accidental incident

    no comparison to fritta incident

    i'm sure there are many similar fend off incidents where no suspension resulted. these are the ones his defence (if necessary) need to reference

    Dangerfield Grand Final Vlastuin

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    21 hours ago, Seetrollgetttroll said:

    If Hawkins doesn't get suspended for swinging an elbow and accidentally fracturing Mays eye socket, Fritsch shouldn't get suspended for raising an elbow and having Powell run and stumble straight into it. Having said that, the AFL tribunal is so inconsistent these days it's hard to predict what the verdict might be. 

    I would also argue he was avoiding a head clash....

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    I think because we're winning and drawing favorable press the MRO will let him off.

    I'm sure some of the mindless the criteria is based on ladder position.

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