Sideshow Bob 2,498 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nasher said: Look I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is WE ARE DEMONS AND ON TOP OF THE LADDER is not likely to be a very compelling argument for the tribunal. It's the vibe.... Surely we get Dennis Denuto in to argue this.... 3 2 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, daisycutter said: clean record protecting broken hand low impact, player played out game with no lasting injury (nth. dr. report?) precedents e.g. dangermouse in gf worth a try This 10k is chicken feed if he kicks 6 next week and helps us to 8-0 3 Quote
rpfc 29,029 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, mfcrox said: Yeah, his name was Tom Hawkins... and he got away with it despite breaking a cheekbone In no way was that the same and you know it. Fritsch knew what he was throwing his elbow at. Hawkins was flailing about due to a jumper tackle by May. But scream at the sky if you want, IDGAF. 3 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 It wasn’t a strike. There was no striking motion. The elbow was purely to fend and protect from a tackle. He can’t be charged with striking if it wasn’t a striking 1 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, rpfc said: In no way was that the same and you know it. Fritsch knew what he was throwing his elbow at. Hawkins was flailing about due to a jumper tackle by May. But scream at the sky if you want, IDGAF. They both put elbows out to attempt to break tackles. Neither expected their opponents heads to be below shoulder high Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said: It wasn’t a strike. There was no striking motion. The elbow was purely to fend and protect from a tackle. He can’t be charged with striking if it wasn’t a striking Are we going by the dictionary definition of “strike”? If so, it was very clearly a strike. 3 Quote
The Jackson FIX 3,512 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, jnrmac said: Dangerfield would get time if that incident happened this year. They’ve moved the goalposts on anything head high this year. Quote
Deestroy All 14,266 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 It wasn’t stupid at all. It happens all the time. If you misjudge the speed of the player coming in your arm doesn’t extend. There’s a photo of Brayshaw doing the exact same thing to Simpkin floating around on this site somewhere. And it bounced off his shoulder. Looks bad. It wasn’t bad. 1 Quote
Seraph 1,824 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Would like to know what their grading criteria is for Impact. Would have thought: Low Impact - no injury, played out game Medium Impact - ruled out of game High Impact - will miss multiple weeks But if it's just arbitrary and 'how it looks' then we should absolutely challenge. Edited May 3, 2021 by Seraph 1 Quote
KingSlayer33 170 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 I may have missed comments on this earlier but what happened to Fritsch when he was laid out at CHF in the first quarter? I haven't seen the replay yet and to be honest I don't think I want to watch the first half anyway but I missed it during the match. 1 Quote
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, rpfc said: In no way was that the same and you know it. Fritsch knew what he was throwing his elbow at. Hawkins was flailing about due to a jumper tackle by May. But scream at the sky if you want, IDGAF. Yes when you slow it down it looks premeditated. Try playing at normal speed, in a second, I grab possession in heavy traffic, I see a tackler coming at me at speed and low, I fend off or take the full force of the hit/tackle. This is not the case of a tackler choosing to bump rather than tackle the ball carrier, this is a ball carrier facing an aggressive tackler and looking to protect himself and escape traffic. Hawkins flailing about is careless too! A bit like Steven King rearranging Jeff White’s face with a flailing boot back in 2005. Deemed to be just one those things! 2 Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 https://imgur.com/a/UjFeOuI Fritsch is very low, Powell is actually falling into the tackle because he had Petracca push him in his back. I think it's unfair to say his elbow is at shoulder height when both players are so low. I think if Powell isn't falling that's chest height and perfectly legal. This reminds me of Viney's bump where he and his opponent got pushed into the contest and Viney hurt the guy with the bump. https://youtu.be/P1Ax17RHH9A?t=206 Quote
Jock Strap 197 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 And while we’re at it ... how about Brayshaw getting $2k fine for tripping. I’d be very [censored] off if I was him!! 1 1 Quote
Brownie 6,086 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, KingSlayer33 said: I may have missed comments on this earlier but what happened to Fritsch when he was laid out at CHF in the first quarter? I haven't seen the replay yet and to be honest I don't think I want to watch the first half anyway but I missed it during the match. Zeibel hit him. No commentary by the media, so no need for the MRP to review 1 1 2 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 It’s obvious the MROs job is to sit there with one finger up his nose and one up his bum making stuff up as he goes along as some kind of mad cap revenue raising cost centre for the AFL 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 Impact has got to be our major appeal, given that there has been precedent of a player this year getting medium impact from the MRO but the injured player playing on so it gets determined as low impact. 2 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted May 3, 2021 Author Posted May 3, 2021 We've gotta roll the dice here. Fritta is in great form and there's enough evidence to argue about im my opinion - particularly the speed and positioning of both players during the contest. His elbow did make contact with his upper arm first and Fritta had no control over Powells downward trajectory. We just can't give up on a bloke who's kicking multiple goals and now bags for us. Our most dangerous forward... We just cannot accept this ruling! 5 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 from mfc website Quote Melbourne will provide an update on its position regard both incidents in due course. 2 Quote
KingSlayer33 170 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Brownie said: Zeibel hit him. No commentary by the media, so no need for the MRP to review never mind - I found it on a quick scroll through the Kayo replay. It was Aiden Bonar though not Ziebel. Tough to see on the phone how bad it was though (despite being way off the ball) and you are right it was only briefly mentioned in commentary so I guess they didn't bother with a replay or different angle because at that stage he'd only kicked all our goals. 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Nasher said: Are we going by the dictionary definition of “strike”? If so, it was very clearly a strike. There was no forceful or deliberate striking motion. Purely a fend. Quote
Hellish Inferno 992 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, KingSlayer33 said: never mind - I found it on a quick scroll through the Kayo replay. It was Aiden Bonar though not Ziebel. Tough to see on the phone how bad it was though (despite being way off the ball) and you are right it was only briefly mentioned in commentary so I guess they didn't bother with a replay or different angle because at that stage he'd only kicked all our goals. No where near the ball, looks to catch him high. Hard to tell if it was a bump or swung his arm. But no wonder Bayley was fired up Edited May 3, 2021 by Hellish Inferno 1 1 Quote
Brownie 6,086 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hellish Inferno said: Must have been purely accidental ? 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 We fine players for accidental tripping now? What sort of “only a Melbourne player” rule is this? Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, rpfc said: In no way was that the same and you know it. Fritsch knew what he was throwing his elbow at. Hawkins was flailing about due to a jumper tackle by May. But scream at the sky if you want, IDGAF. You are clueless. Ump was right on the spot. Didn't report him or pay 50m penalty. And he played the game out. 1 1 Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 This match review/tribunal process has been inconsistent bull [censored] ever since I can remember. It just never changes and we've been on the ****ty end of that particular stick too many times. 1 Quote
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