27 minutes ago, Colm said:

I’m a bit confused. Don’t the new draft rules still mean we would have access to Mac Andrew just means we won’t get the discount that we would have got had he been in last years draft? I prob wrong but I thought that’s how it worked

We won't get access if another club selects him in the first 20 picks, otherwise I think we still get the discount

1 hour ago, Colm said:

I’m a bit confused. Don’t the new draft rules still mean we would have access to Mac Andrew just means we won’t get the discount that we would have got had he been in last years draft? I prob wrong but I thought that’s how it worked

If a rival club bid on him with a pick within the top 20 then they will get him. We will have no option to match the bid.

If a bid comes between 20-40 then the normal rules apply and we can use points to match (not sure if the discount is still applied).

https://www.afl.com.au/news/583170/early-season-blitz-puts-ruckman-on-demons-nga-radar

And from next year’s Draft I believe it increases to Pick 40. In other words, if a Club uses a Pick between 1 & 40, the Academy Club can’t match it. 
 

The only thing I’m not sure about is whether these new rules apply to all the Clubs in the development States of NSW & Qld???

We selected Jackson with pick 3, who was mostly a ruckman, had played a little bit forward in the second half of his draft year, who we thought could develop his forward craft at the top level. 

If the attributes are tantalising enough, clubs will pull the trigger almost anywhere in the first round.

As others have said, it remains to be seen whether Andrews has those attributes. 

7 hours ago, goodwindees said:

And from next year’s Draft I believe it increases to Pick 40. In other words, if a Club uses a Pick between 1 & 40, the Academy Club can’t match it. 
 

The only thing I’m not sure about is whether these new rules apply to all the Clubs in the development States of NSW & Qld???

The rules will only apply to NGA academy picks. Its a complicated issue. The northern state academys have been in place for ages now and the clubs pump considerable amount of cash into them.

This was rightly deemed unfair to the other clubs and therefore the NGA zones were setup to make it fairer. The only thing is that the clubs didnt actually pump money into the zones. Therefore, the Bulldogs picked up the best kid in the draft in JUH just because he happened to live in their zone and have at least one parent who wasn't born in Aus.

Our first pick seems possible to be right around where Andrew will be selected anyway.

1 hour ago, Pollyanna said:

Our first pick seems possible to be right around where Andrew will be selected anyway.

Correction:

Our first pick seems to be right around the number of points required for Andrew if he is selected in the early 20s.

2 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

Our first pick seems possible to be right around where Andrew will be selected anyway.

isn't our first pick, at this stage, in the mid-30s?

3 hours ago, BAMF said:

The rules will only apply to NGA academy picks. Its a complicated issue. The northern state academys have been in place for ages now and the clubs pump considerable amount of cash into them.

This was rightly deemed unfair to the other clubs and therefore the NGA zones were setup to make it fairer. The only thing is that the clubs didnt actually pump money into the zones. Therefore, the Bulldogs picked up the best kid in the draft in JUH just because he happened to live in their zone and have at least one parent who wasn't born in Aus.

Sums up the NGA's.  The big difference from the Northern states had access to every kid in their zone, the other states only had access to kids with 1 parent born overseas and indigenous players.

I think the Northern states still get priority access to all kids in their academy this year.

Edited June 23, 20214 yr by drdrake

9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

isn't our first pick, at this stage, in the mid-30s?

If we get the bid in the 20's for him you get the discount so as it stands know pick 34 might be enough points to cover him

19 hours ago, goodwindees said:

And from next year’s Draft I believe it increases to Pick 40. In other words, if a Club uses a Pick between 1 & 40, the Academy Club can’t match it. 
 

The only thing I’m n re about is whether these new rules apply to all the Clubs in the development States of NSW & Qld???

It makes you think are the acadamy's worth it if you can only pick the bottom of the barrel.

On 6/22/2021 at 8:35 PM, Dee-licious said:

Within the first couple of minutes. 

Concussed and will miss this weekend’s trial games as well. Wishing him good luck for a speedy recovery.

 

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Do we assume that young Riak is also in the Melbourne NGA?

9 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Do we assume that young Riak is also in the Melbourne NGA?

I presume that would be the case.

We could be sitting on a gold mine with Dandenong being our NGA region. The future of the game is African. 

NEXT GENERATION ACADEMY Official nominations for the 2021 AFL Draft

Carlton 


Domanic Akuei

Fremantle


Eric Benning
Jesse Motlop

Hawthorn


Paul Haasbroek

Melbourne


Mac Andrew
Andy Moniz-Wakefield

St Kilda


Josiah Kyle
Mitchito Owens
Jack Peris
Marcus Windhager

Western Bulldogs


Cody Raak

NORTHERN ACADEMY

Gold Coast


Jason Baird
Will Bella
Jed Foggo
Austin Harris
Thomas Hofert
Antonio James
Jack Johnston
Jamie Jones
Brodie Lake
Brinn Little
Max Pescud
Bailey Reeves
Ned Stevens
Jaeden Watts

GWS


Jack Driscoll
Josh Fahey
Sam Frost
Josh Green
Harrison Grintell
Fraser Kelly
Patrick Voss

Sydney


Angus Anderson
William Edwards
Kye Pfrengle
Liam Puncher
Felix Rogers
Pierce Roseby
 

Awesome!  Imagine a Sydney team built around a Pfrengle Puncher combo!

3 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Awesome!  Imagine a Sydney team built around a Pfrengle Puncher combo!

Those vaccine names keep getting stranger and stranger

4 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

 Imagine a Sydney team built around a Pfrengle Puncher combo!

I'm forecasting a backline of Pfrengle Puncher Rogers.

The Mac Andrew decision might sting, but I think the scaling back of NGAs is actually good for us, even if Andrew has a younger brother coming through. Other clubs were poised to really take advantage of the NGA setup where we haven’t invested anywhere near the same resources. Those clubs will still get some sort of payoff, but it is lessened and we are better placed for it.

Do we know anything about Andy Moniz-Wakefield?

 

7 hours ago, monoccular said:

Do we know anything about Andy Moniz-Wakefield?

 

yes

15 hours ago, monoccular said:

Do we know anything about Andy Moniz-Wakefield?

 

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/andy-moniz-wakefield/