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TRAINING: Wednesday 27th January 2021

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From what I’ve read here and seen on Friday seems Petracca is leaving nothing out on the track. 

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    11 hours ago, Hardley Benial said:

    As my old man said.

    "No one makes you boss - you take it"

    Jake's destined to be in line to be a future Captain of our great club

    Probably after Maysie retires with at least one year with the hand on pthe Cup.

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    13 hours ago, old dee said:

    Seriously , seems rather laid back to me, might be just me.

    That's because you are not excited OD.

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    Well done 

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    10 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    One interesting observation from Stinga was about Kossie in a one off white top in the 3/4 field ball movement exercise. He seems to be used as a go to option with a directive to take on the defenders. That is get the ball to Kossie around the centre for him to run and break the lines at all costs. I will be interested to hear if future track watchers observe the same tactics as it may mean they are looking to play Kossie further up the field so he can use his speed to more advantage. 

    EH  you picked this point up well,    I read it but overlooked the extrapolation you have on it, quite possibly you are correct,

    very exciting possibilities,  certainly from the forward side of centre, watching Kossie cause havoc,      well I hope 

     

    Go Dees

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    interesting to see this re Kossie and also the comments about Hunt training with the backs.

    Perhaps we are looking at our fastest players to receive the ball in the middle of ground and speed towards goal to break defensive zones and give our tall forwards one on one opportunities. This will be a feature of the game this year because of the change in the manning the mark rule (ie the man on the mark can not slow up the game and then be replaced by a team mate coming from the side or forward of the ball carrier, which allows him to flood back to congest the defensive zone for the next kick).

    Tmac might be pivotal in this strategy  - someone who can present, mark and quick handball release on the wing/centre of the ground to the speedsters running past.

    I reckon teams like Port could be found out with this rule (a bit like we were in 2019 with the 6/6/6). They have a lot of contested beasts in the midfield who are not particularly quick (which will be an issue for us too if we don't adapt our game plan), play a very high defense, and are not particularly strong one on one defenders (i.e. when they come up against Tom Hawkins and the like).

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    11 hours ago, Hunt29 said:

    From what I’ve read here and seen on Friday seems Petracca is leaving nothing out on the track. 

    Agreed.

    He wasn't at training on Friday just to log the pre season minutes. Trained/played where he left off from last year.

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    24 minutes ago, spalding said:

    interesting to see this re Kossie and also the comments about Hunt training with the backs.

    Perhaps we are looking at our fastest players to receive the ball in the middle of ground and speed towards goal to break defensive zones and give our tall forwards one on one opportunities. This will be a feature of the game this year because of the change in the manning the mark rule (ie the man on the mark can not slow up the game and then be replaced by a team mate coming from the side or forward of the ball carrier, which allows him to flood back to congest the defensive zone for the next kick).

    Tmac might be pivotal in this strategy  - someone who can present, mark and quick handball release on the wing/centre of the ground to the speedsters running past.

    I reckon teams like Port could be found out with this rule (a bit like we were in 2019 with the 6/6/6). They have a lot of contested beasts in the midfield who are not particularly quick (which will be an issue for us too if we don't adapt our game plan), play a very high defense, and are not particularly strong one on one defenders (i.e. when they come up against Tom Hawkins and the like).

    This sounds like positive forward thinking  - perhaps what was missing with the 666 change.  Using speed to run off players on the mark and getting quick inboard chains could really open up the attacking 50.  

    On this basis, Hunt is the fast distributor off hb, Kozzie rolls up to the centre from F50.  We also have to be smart and be able to defend this as well - our quick players have to ensure the roll off / hand off / 45 degree outlet of the opposition is shut down and players one kick down dont lose their opponents.  The idea of slowing the game and flooding back was a key part of the swans game plan - they might struggle if this rule opens things up.

    Glad we are working on something to do about it.

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    1 hour ago, spalding said:

    interesting to see this re Kossie and also the comments about Hunt training with the backs.

    Perhaps we are looking at our fastest players to receive the ball in the middle of ground and speed towards goal to break defensive zones and give our tall forwards one on one opportunities. This will be a feature of the game this year because of the change in the manning the mark rule (ie the man on the mark can not slow up the game and then be replaced by a team mate coming from the side or forward of the ball carrier, which allows him to flood back to congest the defensive zone for the next kick).

    Tmac might be pivotal in this strategy  - someone who can present, mark and quick handball release on the wing/centre of the ground to the speedsters running past.

    I reckon teams like Port could be found out with this rule (a bit like we were in 2019 with the 6/6/6). They have a lot of contested beasts in the midfield who are not particularly quick (which will be an issue for us too if we don't adapt our game plan), play a very high defense, and are not particularly strong one on one defenders (i.e. when they come up against Tom Hawkins and the like).

    Thats excatly what TMAc doesnt do!!

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    18 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Excellent report Stinga.

    That's disappointing to hear that other clubs are welcoming supporters to training but not us. I assumed it was a COVID rule across the board that supporters are not allowed into training venues??

    At the end of the day you can still get an ok view behind the fence but it would be nice if the club could welcome back a bit of fan engagement after the miserable 2020 in VIC.

     

    This is most probably very correct - the covid-19 complications. It may well be that the Dees and the renewed coaching team and footy department in general have a few surprises up their sleeves now that our recruiting for the upcoming season has strengthened and our newbies in general are starting to rock'n'roll, according to reports. There are certainly many things that other clubs and their FDs would want to know, so keep the spies out of the ground, to some extent. I have a feeling that we are going to start off the new season very successfully, surprisingly (for some) and potently. Here's hoping ....

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    3 hours ago, 640MD said:

    EH  you picked this point up well,    I read it but overlooked the extrapolation you have on it, quite possibly you are correct,

    very exciting possibilities,  certainly from the forward side of centre, watching Kossie cause havoc,      well I hope 

     

    Go Dees

    That was trialled during last season to some effect but appeared to be incomplete and unsustainable, sadly. The long bombs from some of the seasoned hands did not help. Another pre-season, some more concentrated planning a familiarisation, and we are off with another alternative to add potency to our ball movement and forward attack. Love the concept.

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    7 hours ago, 58er said:

    Probably after Maysie retires with at least one year with the hand on pthe Cup.

    Yes totally agree, Mayzie would make/ and should be our next Captain. 

    What great leadership we have in our backline 

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    On 27/01/2021 at 3:13 PM, stinga said:

    Went down to Casey and watched through the fence. Don't know why you can't get into an area that could be partitioned off on the outer wing for supporters. Other clubs seem to have supporters around the grounds.

    A couple of rehab groups.  

    Brayshaw, VDB, Viney and Hibberd doing laps.

    Bowey, Smith, Petty and Brown doing exercises, run throughs and similar on the outer wing. Bowey Petty and Smith together with coaches doing various drills whilst Brown just ran up and down the boundary line.

    B Brown doing a lot of body work drills with Stafford whilst other training going on.

    Apart from warm ups there were 3 main drills on whole ground.   

    1. Williams ran the first one where there were three teams. Yellow tabs, white tabs and Melbourne jumpers.  going in triangular pattern HFF to HFF to FF anticlockwise with emphasis on fast continuous movement.

    2. Two teams Orange tabs and melbourne jumpers run maybe by Yze.  Full ground match play. They put cones down to bring the boundary in 20 m on each side so all play was through corridor areas.  All about the side not in possession trying to touch the ball where it would be turned over to the other side.  Kossie was one out with a white tab running through the middle going for runs bouncing the ball trying to avoid others.  At one stage tracc chased him while he bounced it 4 times.  Trac couldn't catch him but  never gave up.  Kossie kept  the same 2 m in front.  After Kossie  kicked it Tracc collapsed to his knees trying to bet some breath - it was a great chase.   Kossie just kept going.  Nothing wrong with Kossie fitness. 

     

    Not according to poster Lord nev,  who said he was the last player on the list for fitness, why do posters like Lord make up lies?, and pretend that they have inside information.

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    24 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

    Not according to poster Lord nev,  who said he was the last player on the list for fitness, why do posters like Lord make up lies?, and pretend that they have inside information.

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    Great training report from Stinga and most importantly reminded me of my first man crush. Gees Tingay was good.

    time to find a highlights reel.

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    1 hour ago, don't make me angry said:

    Not according to poster Lord nev,  who said he was the last player on the list for fitness, why do posters like Lord make up lies?, and pretend that they have inside information.

    FFS. We've already been over this mate. That was 'Lord Travis', not me.

     

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    10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    FFS. We've already been over this mate. That was 'Lord Travis', not me.

     

    Good lord

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    29 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    FFS. We've already been over this mate. That was 'Lord Travis', not me.

     

    Serves yourself right for calling yourself Lord

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    23 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    One interesting observation from Stinga was about Kossie in a one off white top in the 3/4 field ball movement exercise. He seems to be used as a go to option with a directive to take on the defenders. That is get the ball to Kossie around the centre for him to run and break the lines at all costs. I will be interested to hear if future track watchers observe the same tactics as it may mean they are looking to play Kossie further up the field so he can use his speed to more advantage. 

    this is what I like to call the Dusty role, not comparing Kos to him at all, but this would play to his strengths more than a roving small forward - his best game for the year (forget the opposition sorry) saw him playing alot more between the 50's - pace, skill and vision saw him set up plenty of play

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