52 minutes ago, old dee said:

I would hate being married to football club. 

Very similar to marriage OD. All the same emotions, irrational behaviour, arguments, passions, praise, criticisms, joy, despair. And increasingly often these days, separation and divorce. With others choosing loyalty against all the odds. 

3 hours ago, bluey said:

The Weed will be ok, a contracted late developer with plenty of upside.

Should've been selected in the finals over a fellow second ruck who kept getting selected despite a poor season.

10 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Should've been selected in the finals over a fellow second ruck who kept getting selected despite a poor season.

They were keeping his value up at all costs.

 

I’d much prefer keeping Weiderman & push Ben Brown into an early retirement 

Browns performance late in the year was very poor & should’ve been dropped 

1 hour ago, Billy said:

I’d much prefer keeping Weiderman & push Ben Brown into an early retirement 

Browns performance late in the year was very poor & should’ve been dropped 

Weideman had a good game in the 2018 finals

BBB kicked 3 in last year's final so he's got about another 4 years to equal the time they have given Weideman to repeat the dose

Weideman should persist and do a pre-season in a ruck role, and if he gets his chance next year rotate with Gawn as ruck-forward. If the tactics or methods next year improves with not bombing it in into 50 and lower their eyes more often and actually hit up leads he could be more than handy. He's a pretty acurate set-shot, more reliable than Gawn anyway 😁

The weid has had ample time to make it. Move on people. If he goes he goes, if he stays he plays for Casey.

5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Should've been selected in the finals over a fellow second ruck who kept getting selected despite a poor season.

If we def knew he was going, we'd have gotten more out of the Weed. Jackson played us.

Strangely failed to crack the top ten of Casey's B&F (congrats to Jimmy Munro by the way).

For comparison, JVR finished sixth in the count and finished with the same number of games and goals for the year.

EDIT: Weid only played 11 games this season for Casey. Misread the stat page!

Edited September 28, 20222 yr by Demon Jack

17 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Strangely failed to crack the top ten of Casey's B&F (congrats to Jimmy Munro by the way).

For comparison, JVR finished sixth in the count and finished with the same number of games and goals for the year.

11 games to JVR 18. Yes probably should have cracked the top 10, but it’s 60% more games. 

18 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Strangely failed to crack the top ten of Casey's B&F (congrats to Jimmy Munro by the way).

For comparison, JVR finished sixth in the count and finished with the same number of games and goals for the year.

Coaches obviously don’t value his input equally.

Edited September 28, 20222 yr by Demon Disciple

20 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

11 games to JVR 18. Yes probably should have cracked the top 10, but it’s 60% more games. 

Apologies, misread the stats page. Has games from both 2021 and 2022 listed.

VFL Stats - Sam Weideman (aflmstats.com)

Edited September 28, 20222 yr by Demon Jack

3 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

The weid has had ample time to make it. Move on people. If he goes he goes, if he stays he plays for Casey.

How do you know.

He played one of the best spoiler roles I've seen in a game where his role was pivotal in stopping run on against a team that kicked something like six goals in the last 15minutes of a prelim. That's not penny andy kids stuff.

Rucking is tough when your always the smaller protagonist.

Can’t believe how many people are still hanging onto a few good games he played 4 years ago now. He’s had so many opportunities to cement a spot and failed at every turn so much so Melksham had to come in and play the role. Safe to say even Goodwin who is the last to give up on any player has also run out of patience. I think the club would be more than happy to use his spot on the list to bring in another kid via the draft if anyone showed any interest in taking him off our hands.

5 hours ago, cantstandyasam said:

If we def knew he was going, we'd have gotten more out of the Weed. Jackson played us.

BBP 

If LJ was that poor why was he in the first ruck for a lot of games in the last half of the season.?

Because Gawny was injured from QB on. 
LJ was not poor but his round the ground work rate and failure to mark first grab was crucial to those performances. 

But to say he played us is unfair as he also had some issues with his calf till the end of the season. 

For those that value loyalty to club it is funny that a Weideman leads the pack at MFC.

14 hours ago, Billy said:

I’d much prefer keeping Weiderman & push Ben Brown into an early retirement 

Browns performance late in the year was very poor & should’ve been dropped 

And replaced by who?

He went backwards this year but I do feel there could be something in the ruck for him and I'm happy to try it. 

The guy is 197cm.  Too small for an AFL level ruck.  Only got the job at Casey after Daw retired. 

2023 will be his 8th season at the club.  And people still think he can be turned into something. 

If the revolution was lead by committee one wonders what would emerge from the train wreck.

Fortunately those charged  with the responsibility for running the club are by and large professional competent people. Far removed from the proletarian ruck.
 

If faith is continued to be shown in players like Sam Weiderman despite his long gestation. And the ugly duckling turns out to be a swan.

Those howling for his blood on the Place de la Concorde of the web waves(DL) may well be truly disappointed.

Edited September 28, 20222 yr by Tarax Club
Viva le Sam!

9 hours ago, willmoy said:

How do you know.

 

I’ve got eyes.

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

The guy is 197cm.  Too small for an AFL level ruck.  Only got the job at Casey after Daw retired. 

2023 will be his 8th season at the club.  And people still think he can be turned into something. 

Would it be fair to say the ruckmen that succeed around that height really need to be the athletic running ruckmen eg. Goodes, White, Stynes, P Moore?

 

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

Would it be fair to say the ruckmen that succeed around that height really need to be the athletic running ruckmen eg. Goodes, White, Stynes, P Moore?

 

Yes, or you have to be physically strong like Mumford, Lade, Natanui.

Point is today 197cm alone is not enough, especially when you come up against Witts, Natanui, English, Reeves, Lobb & Cox.

We need to keep Weid next year.  He'll play 2nd ruck games when Max or Grundy are out rested or injured.  We're not going to entice a better back-up ruck option to join us behind those two.  We need to draft a ruck prospect.

1 hour ago, old55 said:

We need to keep Weid next year.  He'll play 2nd ruck games when Max or Grundy are out rested or injured.  We're not going to entice a better back-up ruck option to join us behind those two.  We need to draft a ruck prospect.

Would easily get a better back up.  And it happens every year that back up rucks move clubs. 

If we get Grundy I have no problem with Weid being our back up.  But we then run the risk of if both he and Gawn get injuries then our ruck is Weid,  which I don't like.