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Another great big Neeld era recruiting stuff up...

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  On 19/10/2020 at 11:15, dee-tox said:

Could have had Adam Goodes at pick 43 too. We all saw him strut his stuff for North Ballarat grand final day 1996...

Goodes gave away his grand final ticket  after under 18 , gave to  a person holding 1 ticket wanted sign

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      On 19/10/2020 at 12:10, Lord Nev said:

    In the article it mentions Craig and Todd Viney were recommending Sellar.

     

    Surely would have also gone through his former coach who originally drafted him.

     

     

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    Does not matter - the recruiting was a very small part of our problem at that time.

    Neale's career would likely be done by now had he been been chosen by the Dees.

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      On 19/10/2020 at 10:24, DeeSpencer said:

    Thank god we didn't ruin Neale's career.

    We recruited the best young player from Kybybolite and stuffed his career, we didn't need to do it to the second best young player from there too.

    Too obtuse for me. Who was this "best young player from Kybybolite" whose career we stuffed up? 

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      On 19/10/2020 at 12:33, Ethan Tremblay said:

    What’s the point? I’m sure they chose the players they thought were the best available at the time, no need to be hindsight heroes. 

    It's the tag line of this site.

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      On 19/10/2020 at 22:25, Better days ahead said:

    Harsh. the other 17 clubs passed on him as well.

    We only passed on him 3 times, he was the 4th pick for Freo, so they also passed on him 3 times. GWS had 11 picks before Neale, while Brissy and the dogs had 4 picks, The cats, tigers, port, hawks all had 3 picks before Neale went as well. I look forward to the follow up article with all their recruiting managers as well.

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      On 19/10/2020 at 12:06, Elegt said:

    Mitch Clark was good. The rest were terrible

    Max Gawn?  A million monkeys and a million draft picks ...

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      On 19/10/2020 at 12:35, Satan said:

    Goodes gave away his grand final ticket  after under 18 , gave to  a person holding 1 ticket wanted sign

    Clubs were only allowed one 17yo that year.  By taking Travis Johnstone we couldn't take Goodes, who was effectively pick 11 or something like in the 17yo draft within a draft.

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      On 19/10/2020 at 09:47, dazzledavey36 said:

    He rated him so highly yet he still chose Josh Tynan at Pick 52.

    Prendergast is a [censored] id iot.

    But he picked Gysberts instead of Talia and the short stocky player, whose name I forget, instead of everybody left in that draft, not to mention ignoring the boy who went at 3, for a mercenary transient and JT. The boy who went at 3 is playing this week for his third flag. 

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    We were very close to picking Fyfe. We recruited his next door neighbour.

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    Richmond passed on Lance Franklin, they turned out OK because they got their whole football club right

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      On 19/10/2020 at 22:42, Red and Blue realist said:

    We only passed on him 3 times, he was the 4th pick for Freo, so they also passed on him 3 times. GWS had 11 picks before Neale, while Brissy and the dogs had 4 picks, The cats, tigers, port, hawks all had 3 picks before Neale went as well. I look forward to the follow up article with all their recruiting managers as well.

    The same people who moan relentlessly about skewiff results re drating also often freely admit that drafting is an inexact science.  Go figure.

    Trying to place high school age footballers into some sort of numbered order is an exercise in futility. 

    Lachie Neale joins an extensive list of late draft picks who turned out to be guns.  The reverse applies of course ... top order picks are often complete busts

    I don't see what the big deal is. 

    It is what it is

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      On 20/10/2020 at 01:49, one_demon said:

    Yes, the draft is a lottery

    Well it's not a complete lottery as you've got a much better chance of unearthing a star with a top 10 pick as opposed to a pick in the 50's but nonetheless,  drafting is flawed.

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      On 20/10/2020 at 01:40, Macca said:

    The same people who moan relentlessly about skewiff results re drating also often freely admit that drafting is an inexact science.  Go figure.

    Trying to place high school age footballers into some sort of numbered order is an exercise in futility. 

    Lachie Neale joins an extensive list of late draft picks who turned out to be guns.  The reverse applies of course ... top order picks are often complete busts

    I don't see what the big deal is. 

    It is what it is

    The difference it not the fans who were lamenting but the the football club recruiters and powers lamenting at the one that got away. Basically they are admitting they seriously considered Neale but passed him over for three spuds instead.  If this article never appeared in the media fans would not have known better and the discussion would not have happened.

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      On 19/10/2020 at 22:50, mauriesy said:

    Boy, we're looking through a very hazy retrospectoscope with this one.

    Whats Jimmy Toumpas doing nowdays??

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      On 20/10/2020 at 02:53, america de cali said:

    The difference it not the fans who were lamenting but the the football club recruiters lamenting at the one that got away. Basically they are admitting they seriously considered Neale but passed him over for three spuds instead.  If this article never appeared in the media fans would not have known better and would not be a discussion point. 

    It's a pathetic story.

    How easy is it, 9 years after the fact, to say "oh yeah I wanted to pick him but someone else said I couldn't"?

    It's a rubbish, unverifiable claim.

    The implication in your post is that we stuffed up more than any other club because we "passed him over for three spuds". As has been said, every other club passed on him numerous times just like we did. It doesn't matter what Prendergast says 9 years later he was thinking. And even if it were true, it still doesn't matter because the recruiters at 17 other clubs clearly didn't think much differently.

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      On 20/10/2020 at 02:53, america de cali said:

    The difference it not the fans lamenting but the the football club recruiters lamenting at the one that got away. Basically they are saying they seriously considered Neale but picked three spuds instead.  If this article never appeared in the media fans would not have known better and would not a discussion point. 

    Neale being a pick in the 50's was going to be a story one way or the other

    And recruiters don't go out to pick poor players ... that's just the way things turn out

    Prendergast picked Gawn at pick 36 and we've done well more recently with trading or swapping top end picks or reshuffling picks or in fact the use of them ... May,  Oliver,  Petracca,  Brayshaw,  Viney etc etc

    Melksham,  Hibberd,  Fritsch etc have been good pick ups for 2nd rounders as well

    Drafting - you win some,  you lose some

    The reality of drafting is that it's an inexact science and probably always will be.

    As previously stated,  no big deal

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