3 hours ago, Rob Mac...... said:

I'm sure some of you understand this much better than me because I'm just watching on TV from o/s, but:

It seems Trac  and Clarrie are happy to pass to each other etc., but about round 15, 16 or 17, I saw Clarrie bend to pick up the pill in congestion near a stoppage and Viney charged and grabbed it. I thought wow it seemed for 1/2 second that Viney selfishly fought Clarrie for the ball!?

I don't know there is a problem and hope there isn't, but if those 2 definitely can't work together, then I really hope we keep Clarrie and let Viney go if one must go. 

I don't think Viney has much peripheral vision he is  just 'see ball get ball' hard as nails, but I think the others probably get a bit upset cos they see the game better... that's how I read it. Hopefully they get a few set plays or learn to work with each other so they all can shine in the middle 

11 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I don't think Viney has much peripheral vision he is  just 'see ball get ball' hard as nails, but I think the others probably get a bit upset cos they see the game better... that's how I read it. Hopefully they get a few set plays or learn to work with each other so they all can shine in the middle 

This is quite possibly (if there is one) the issue between Jack and Clarry. In terms of what it does for the team it most certainly is an issue because I could actually remember there was one point that I'm pretty sure our players would almost end up tackling each other to get the ball. It's great to see that hunger but it needs to be channelled better.

1 minute ago, Pates said:

This is quite possibly (if there is one) the issue between Jack and Clarry. In terms of what it does for the team it most certainly is an issue because I could actually remember there was one point that I'm pretty sure our players would almost end up tackling each other to get the ball. It's great to see that hunger but it needs to be channelled better.

I think in most cases it would be a personality clash and nothing to do with the on field stuff 

5 minutes ago, Pates said:

This is quite possibly (if there is one) the issue between Jack and Clarry. In terms of what it does for the team it most certainly is an issue because I could actually remember there was one point that I'm pretty sure our players would almost end up tackling each other to get the ball. It's great to see that hunger but it needs to be channelled better.

Absolutely, midfield coach has a the best ruckman and a gun young midfield to work with has to get them gelling better, I was shocked to find out we are no good in clearances

Has a rift between Oliver and Viney just been invented for fun or is this just what we do?

2 hours ago, Pates said:

This is quite possibly (if there is one) the issue between Jack and Clarry. In terms of what it does for the team it most certainly is an issue because I could actually remember there was one point that I'm pretty sure our players would almost end up tackling each other to get the ball. It's great to see that hunger but it needs to be channelled better.

Agree my take on this is the frustration Clarry has with Vineys Rugby like tendencies and little else more.The way Im viewing this is

1 The fact that we should be tabling a mega deal for clarry in the vicinity of 800 + for 7 years and tie him up for life NOW. He is a much better player than Viney ever was or will be.Period

2 Unless the above happens and or we don't finish top 4 next year Clayton Oliver will be gone to another club. Nothing in  my mind is  more certain.?

28 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Agree my take on this is the frustration Clarry has with Vineys Rugby like tendencies and little else more.The way Im viewing this is

1 The fact that we should be tabling a mega deal for clarry in the vicinity of 800 + for 7 years and tie him up for life NOW. He is a much better player than Viney ever was or will be.Period

2 Unless the above happens and or we don't finish top 4 next year Clayton Oliver will be gone to another club. Nothing in  my mind is  more certain.?

37 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Agree my take on this is the frustration Clarry has with Vineys Rugby like tendencies and little else more.The way Im viewing this is

1 The fact that we should be tabling a mega deal for clarry in the vicinity of 800 + for 7 years and tie him up for life NOW. He is a much better player than Viney ever was or will be.Period

2 Unless the above happens and or we don't finish top 4 next year Clayton Oliver will be gone to another club. Nothing in  my mind is  more certain.?

Offer him 3 years on top dollar. If we're successful he'll re-sign and if not we should honor his wish to move elsewhere. Investing in someone for 7 years, even someone of Clayton's ability is too risky. and unnecessary imv.

1 minute ago, Better days ahead said:

Offer him 3 years on top dollar. If we're successful he'll re-sign and if not we should honor his wish to move elsewhere. Investing in someone for 7 years, even someone of Clayton's ability is too risky. and unnecessary imv.

Yep. Keep them Hungry 

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Agree my take on this is the frustration Clarry has with Vineys Rugby like tendencies and little else more.The way Im viewing this is

1 The fact that we should be tabling a mega deal for clarry in the vicinity of 800 + for 7 years and tie him up for life NOW. He is a much better player than Viney ever was or will be.Period

2 Unless the above happens and or we don't finish top 4 next year Clayton Oliver will be gone to another club. Nothing in  my mind is  more certain.?

So so glad you have no power in my club. You have worms in your brain on most things MFC related.

As an aside to all - what was the SOS ‘bombshell?’. I can’t find anything on it.

2 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

So so glad you have no power in my club. You have worms in your brain on most things MFC related.

As an aside to all - what was the SOS ‘bombshell?’. I can’t find anything on it.

SEN interview:

stephen-silvagni-slams-blues

Can someone please tell me if there’s a rift between Oliver & Viney, or just our flakey supporters jumping at shadows 

1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

Offer him 3 years on top dollar. If we're successful he'll re-sign and if not we should honor his wish to move elsewhere. Investing in someone for 7 years, even someone of Clayton's ability is too risky. and unnecessary imv.

Let me get this right....  Clarry wants success and Carlton came calling ????

45 minutes ago, Billy said:

Can someone please tell me if there’s a rift between Oliver & Viney, or just our flakey supporters jumping at shadows 

Apparently no one gets on with Viney Brayshaw Oliver petracca, they all hate him.

Well someone had better do something about this Contract quick, and I'm not talking about Olivers.....

I’ve noticed that Viney regularly likes Clarry’s posts on Instagram (I know, it’s a bit petty), so I doubt there’s a personal rift between the two FWIW

40 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Apparently no one gets on with Viney Brayshaw Oliver petracca, they all hate him.

Oh turn it up.   As if you'd know one way or the other.

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

SEN interview:

stephen-silvagni-slams-blues

It was all rubbish, sour grapes

I know we keep hearing media people say that the Dees & Oliver's manager say it's a non-story but I wish we could hear it from the horse's mouth. Not necessarily Oliver but perhaps through one of those fluff pieces the Dees have been putting out every few days about some of the players. 

Maybe a story about how Oliver saw Trac's dedication over the off-season and wants to take his game to the next level. 

Sure it's a puff piece but the club must be aware of the "rumours" and this would be one way to put an end to them. 

It might not satiate everyone but it's something. 

No matter which side of the fence you're sitting on with this I think we can all agree that next year is crucial for the Demons and if we want to retain star players we are going to need to put runs on the board. 

We need success to keep players and we also want to be an attractive "destination" club to opposition players. 

We simply can't be just a "destination" club for dollars because then you can't retain your up-and-coming stars. 

18 minutes ago, Lefty said:

I know we keep hearing media people say that the Dees & Oliver's manager say it's a non-story but I wish we could hear it from the horse's mouth. Not necessarily Oliver but perhaps through one of those fluff pieces the Dees have been putting out every few days about some of the players. 

Maybe a story about how Oliver saw Trac's dedication over the off-season and wants to take his game to the next level. 

Sure it's a puff piece but the club must be aware of the "rumours" and this would be one way to put an end to them. 

It might not satiate everyone but it's something. 

No matter which side of the fence you're sitting on with this I think we can all agree that next year is crucial for the Demons and if we want to retain star players we are going to need to put runs on the board. 

We need success to keep players and we also want to be an attractive "destination" club to opposition players. 

We simply can't be just a "destination" club for dollars because then you can't retain your up-and-coming stars. 

Would a photo of him having dinner with the Goodwins suffice?

It’s trade period. Its currency is rumor and gossip. Fact of life.  The club or his management start makings comments will just fuel the fire.

Best way to put this to bed is to announce he has signed a new deal. Kills the story stone dead.

Just now, Redleg said:

Would a photo of him having dinner with the Goodwins suffice?

How did this photo work out?

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Would a photo of him having dinner with the Goodwins suffice?

only if smiling :)

Just now, Better days ahead said:

It’s trade period. Its currency is rumor and gossip. Fact of life.  The club or his management start makings comments will just fuel the fire.

Best way to put this to bed is to announce he has signed a new deal. Kills the story stone dead.

True but he still has a year on his contract and perhaps her wants to see the direction we are going before putting pen to paper. 

Shocked this rumour became as big and widespread given it came from an unapologetic blues supporter and was very loosely based on any form of reality