8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

He's had some good games AF no doubting that and what he does offer is kicking on either side inside 50 which makes him a bit slippery if he gets the ball outside 50.  The problem is getting it for Melk, most of the time, means being given it on a platter.  This is fine when eveything's going down hill.  He looks the goods courtesy of other's hard work around him.  It's when the wick's turned up either during a match when the opp get their act together, or, we are playing a damn good team, that he just doesn't get near it aside from the odd loose mark inside 50 and goal.

I think this is a feature of the modern game though. Very few forwards can impact the game unless it's kicked to them 'on a platter'. Some are better at pressuring the ground ball and making defenders panic if they don't mark it (Petracca has become increasingly good at this), but most of the time, defences are set up this way and the game style is about creating beautiful goals through hard running.

8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

For a player with his experience he goes missing for far too long, both during games (per above) or sometimes and sometimes for matches on end.  He isn't alone here.  Look at Weid the last four weeks.  One of the worst blocks of games you could ever wish to see from a supposed KF, barring a few odd decent cameo presentations on the lead or out the back.

Completely agree with all of this.

AF if we are ever to bridge the gap with the likes of the Tigers or say the top 4,, part of what we are going to have to bring is some high level pressure inside 50 at ground level.  As you say there's a little from the likes of Tracc, some from Kozzy in spurts.  But it almost ends there for us.  Funnily enough i think Brown and Hunt bring more of this to the team than a number of the usual culprits like Melk, Fritta and Spargo.  Hannan probably the only other that brings this when he's on and who knows when he's going to be on.  So many Dr Jekylls up forward

But wait, isn't Goodwin responsible for developing Weideman by keeping him out of the side for 6 weeks?

Jokes aside, Weideman is the least of our issues. He didn't exactly drop any sitters that I saw. He still flies for his marks. He already has made it as an afl player but he'll only be a 3rd tall.

 

 

2 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

Listening to Goodwin presser sums up our club

Does it?Is there anything Goodwin could say at the presser that would satisfy u?

it was a TERRIFIC interview .He mentioned undoubted strengths in the backs. Mentioned that we are still young up forward and need more - was entitled to mention that we’d jumped firm 17 to 9. Steely reserve to go ok v WC , if we get there which is hardly surprising as we’ve beaten them twice in our last 4 encounters. Talked glowingly about Tracc while mentioning the players around him.

 

by comparison with a Malthouse, Clarkson  or Longmire thiswas excellent  stuff

11 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Does it?Is there anything Goodwin could say at the presser that would satisfy u?

it was a TERRIFIC interview .He mentioned undoubted strengths in the backs. Mentioned that we are still young up forward and need more - was entitled to mention that we’d jumped firm 17 to 9. Steely reserve to go ok v WC , if we get there which is hardly surprising as we’ve beaten them twice in our last 4 encounters. Talked glowingly about Tracc while mentioning the players around him.

 

by comparison with a Malthouse, Clarkson  or Longmire thiswas excellent  stuff

He said he was pleased how we played... really we continued to have fade outs... saying they have given it their best shot to make finals really??? We lost to bottom sides vs the others in the 8  are winning to consolidate. The same issues continue lack of maintaining intensity eg 2017... they blew their chances once again

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

I just found out that I had Justin Plapp's wife's muesli in my cupboard. Small world. But I threw it out only a couple of days ago because it had ants in it. Omen?  

That's spookily like something I'd post.

P.S. That's not a compliment.

What a shame we can’t rely on a team to choke in the last game to let us into the finals (like MFC...)

59 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Played ok but we were the exact opposite of ruthless, let’s face it. We managed to keep them in it all game to the point where we lost control and could have lost it. What’s the opposite of ruthless? Not sure but that is us. 

Ha ha saw a discussion on The Graham Norton Show with comedian Michael McIntyre discussing words that naturally go together, with other guests Chris Martin and Rosamund Pike. Pike mentioned you can have underwhelmed and over whelmed, but you are never whelmed. Chris Martin agreed and suggested you can call someone ruthless, but you can never say, gee, he has a lot of ruth in him. ?

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Played ok but we were the exact opposite of ruthless, let’s face it. We managed to keep them in it all game to the point where we lost control and could have lost it. What’s the opposite of ruthless? Not sure but that is us. 

Ruthful...but is that Ruthist?

I’ve just started watching “All or nothing” on Amazon Prime. It’s a fly on the wall doco following Tottenham Hotspur EPL club last season. Mourinho is hired as a new manager, and within 2 days concludes the team are a bunch of nice guys. He tells them this, and that for 90 minutes a week they Can’t be nice guys and need to be a pack of c***s, Effing Intelligent c***s, not stupid c***s, bastar*s in the sense that for 90 minutes you are there to win matches.

That’s ruthless. I hope Goody has an Amazon prime subscription, our guys could learn this lesson.

14 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

He said he was pleased how we played... really we continued to have fade outs... saying they have given it their best shot to make finals really??? 

Bloody hell goody is easily pleased. 
 

The supporters I was near today sure weren’t pleased with the way we were playing. 

Given our best shot, that’s laughable. 

Maybe the above gives us a good idea why Milkshake has played every game this season despite his putrid form.

 

For 3 qtrs essendon brought ZERO pressure. 

Presto they put daniher up the ground apply more pressure and we go to water

 

Our game plan still sucks when we are put under pressure

I see on fox footy them highlighting hunt grabbing Petracca at 3/4 time. What’s the bet the AFL gives them both a suspension.

we are not bigger enough for this to be a non issue 

My band was playing this afternoon (I’m the vocalist) and so I had my phone on my music stand with Foxtel Go... I don’t think there’s been a time in the past where I’ve got the lyrics wrong in so many songs.

5 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Well congrats to the usual;

Langdon  Oliver, Max,Trac and May.

Nice cameo from Hunt.

Hunt is a much better player than many on here and the match committee give him credit for.

 

22 minutes ago, hardtack said:

My band was playing this afternoon (I’m the vocalist) and so I had my phone on my music stand with Foxtel Go... I don’t think there’s been a time in the past where I’ve got the lyrics wrong in so many songs.

You are obviously not living in Melbourne. Can't wait to see live music again.

There is some very odd footage of Hunt ‘fingering’ Tracca at 3/4 time doing the rounds on Twitter. Ala Richmond a few weeks ago. Mark Robinson has re-tweeted. Shocking way to finish the season, as this will now be the focus. Silly by Jayden. 

3 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

You are obviously not living in Melbourne. Can't wait to see live music again.

Sydney... it’s limited re audience size (max 25 in today’s venue), and people must remain in their seats, but it is great to be able to perform, yes. When the shutdown happened in March, we lost a lot of work.

It was good to secure the win but I’m disappointed in Goodwin’s direction after half time. We played safe football and took no risks which was the opposite of what we did in the second qtr. We did this against Carlton in round 2 and again we almost coughed it up with this style of play. I can’t see why a simple direction of “just keep on doing what you’re doing”’ can’t be applied in these situations instead of going into this highly possessive defensive game style that doesn’t suit us.

5 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

There is some very odd footage of Hunt ‘fingering’ Tracca at 3/4 time doing the rounds on Twitter. Ala Richmond a few weeks ago. Mark Robinson has re-tweeted. Shocking way to finish the season, as this will now be the focus. Silly by Jayden. 

[censored] me footballers are thick.

2 minutes ago, gs77 said:

[censored] me footballers are thick.

Silly act. But afl players are stupid in general, you can't expect them to learn

13 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

There is some very odd footage of Hunt ‘fingering’ Tracca at 3/4 time doing the rounds on Twitter. Ala Richmond a few weeks ago. Mark Robinson has re-tweeted. Shocking way to finish the season, as this will now be the focus. Silly by Jayden. 

Trac was touching Viney at 3/4 time & laughing sums up their last qtr fade out 

1 minute ago, Hogan2014 said:

Trac was touching Viney at 3/4 time & laughing sums up their last qtr fade out 

He is very immature at times. I think he has ADD. He owes Goodwin an apology. 

1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

He said he was pleased how we played... really we continued to have fade outs... saying they have given it their best shot to make finals really??? We lost to bottom sides vs the others in the 8  are winning to consolidate. The same issues continue lack of maintaining intensity eg 2017... they blew their chances once again

Yeah little perplexing that one. Heard Teague' s one as well and he was saying he was happy and they've improved but they simply have to get better.

Would have liked to hear something a bit more like that because if this season is our best shot then we really havent followed the progression plan too well and I guess we had better be happy being a perfectly 9th placed team.

Edited September 19, 20204 yr by layzie

1 hour ago, AC/DeeC said:

Ruthful...but is that Ruthist?

Wasn't that Ruth is Stranger than Richard? Well at least we are not Rock Bottom.

The Cairns fiasco frustrating although it was, is on reflection not all down to Goodwin et al. The response in the last two games has been gratifying. Rather than go out meekly, the guys have re-established their playing credo and come out on top. Against two credible opponents. Its not perfect or always consistent but its heading in the right direction, up the ladder.

Agree with the agricultural gent who posted earlier, 'Farmer'. Simon Goodwin spoke well at what may be the last post-match media conference for this season. Plenty of confidence and forthright introspection there. Remember 9thmond? regular bridesmaids coach, players and club under a great deal scrutiny until a critical mass was achieved ...

ps. we are also warming to SOS, given his disappointments last season definitely Body and Soul.

Convincingly beat Joe Daniher one on one in a key contest.

 

Edited September 19, 20204 yr by Tarax Club