Jump to content

GAMEDAY: Rd 14 vs St. Kilda

Freddy Fuschia
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

1 minute ago, Demon_spurs said:

Broken record, really out coached, up to Jones' brain fade we were playing really well. Sick of hearing out coached rubbish. Get a new record !

 

Steele has been let to do what he likes. The Saints have clamped down on all our midfield. We consistently give away undisciplined 50s. It gets down to coaching.

    • Like 2
     
    Just now, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    Jones should put his hand up not to play next week.

    What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

    • Like 2
    Just now, My name is legion said:

    Nonsense. The players did it. Cooked chicken.

    Please explain to me who teaches these muppets to tap the ball to the open side of the pack and have nobody defend it? Because that Steele goal at the end is the same [censored] I see week in week out. If it’s not the coaches who set this up, then our players deserve to be sacked for not following instructions. 

    • Like 3
     
    1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

    Up until the horrible turnover, Jones had actually been playing quite well.  Wagner hasn't been too bad either.

    I'll give you Vanders, though.  I'm a fan but he's done nothing tonight other than setting up our third goal of the night.

    Both have been shocking. Jones' lack of pace causes him to retreat and turn defensively when he gets the ball and he should be going forward. We have to many average users to be playing this chip it around the backline style as when the time comes to pull the trigger very few are capable.

    • Like 2

    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

     

    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

    Players aren't allowed to make errors. Because you know... just cause.

    Plenty of moments to redeem himself.

    • Love 1

    2 tackles in the 2nd qtr, bruise free footy, all Hollywood or nothing, same old dumb mistakes. Doesn't help having Richo in the box either! 

    • Like 1
    • Angry 1
    Just now, Jaded said:

    Please explain to me who teaches these muppets to tap the ball to the open side of the pack and have nobody defend it? Because that Steele goal at the end is the same [censored] I see week in week out. If it’s not the coaches who set this up, then our players deserve to be sacked for not following instructions. 

    Surely it's both.  The set up wasn't good, but why is Gawn tapping it to that empty space?  It's not smart football with 30 seconds left.

    • Like 1
     
    8 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Goodwin again is being out-coached. Ratten has shut down our midfield and he just lets it happen.

    How the [censored] is a dumb kick by an experienced player and concentration lapse from the mids a second later Goodwin fault!!!

    ffs the anti-coach cult on this site [censored] me.

    Edited by PaulRB

    • Like 3
    • Love 1
    9 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    I've been a strong Nathan Jones supporter but jeez that shocker changed the game.

    It changed when Melky completely chit all over his leg and turned over his kick into 50, Jones just made it smellier. 

    • Like 1

    4 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

    We have kicked accurately, that is the only positive from that half. We are getting smashed and I think once the game opens up we will get steam rolled.

    It opened up the last 5 minutes and no surprise the Saints kicked 3 goals

    Listening to Jordie Lewis on fox footy they were talking about the important Saints ball winners and he said, “Melbourne don’t have a tagger if an opposition player gets off the leash” I just thought, “actually we do but he has been played in the wrong position and dropped for form”. 

    Harmes as a tagger IS A WEAPON. But we have botched his development and turned him into a useless half back player. 

    Edited by Pates

    • Like 3
    • Love 1

    Could not be scripted better for the Coach the players and the Club. Slender lead, opposition ascendancy and a season defining game on the line. I, an average footballer would take that as a challenge and would welcome that position as a coach.

    • Thanks 1
    10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    I've been a strong Nathan Jones supporter but jeez that shocker changed the game.

    Career ending

    How our players don’t even know the rules (50m penalties) is a complete failure on the coaches. Every week our oppos get free shots on goals due to dumb 50s on the wings. 1-2 goals it costs us a week


    5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    Up until the horrible turnover, Jones had actually been playing quite well.  Wagner hasn't been too bad either.

    I'll give you Vanders, though.  I'm a fan but he's done nothing tonight other than setting up our third goal of the night.

    Jones had 5 turnovers from 10 disposals. He is done Wagner other than a couple of early fumbles has been solid. AVB hardly spotted. 

    Our midfielders needs to start getting their hands on the ball or their player if second to it.

     

    Edited by big_red_fire_engine

    On the positive side we have a lot of players who can play a lot better this next half.

    • Like 1
    3 minutes ago, Pates said:

    That squibbed mark early on in the second quarter was costly, put two hands up and take the contact if it comes. Jones’s late kick was disgusting but that kick was a beauty and should’ve set us up for a shot on goal. 

    Squibbed mark what the [censored] are you watching Jones kicked it 5m wide and 5m high under no pressure on his wrong foot

    Clarry tried to make the best of an awful situation he had no right to be in

    4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Steele has been let to do what he likes. The Saints have clamped down on all our midfield. We consistently give away undisciplined 50s. It gets down to coaching.

    I think the second half will come down to coaching lets see if Goodwin has any answers

    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    Surely it's both.  The set up wasn't good, but why is Gawn tapping it to that empty space?  It's not smart football with 30 seconds left.

    I don’t know. Why does this happen every week? Because it’s a rinse and repeat pattern. Are our players really too stupid to follow instructions? Are they deaf? Poorly coached? Blind? Dehydrated? Drunk? I mean really I’m an unfit 34 year old who has never played footy in her life and I can see it. Why can’t they? Whoever they are?


    3 minutes of I dont know what and all our efforts down the Crapper.

    Goody needs to address the centre clearance differential. At this rate we will get hammered.

     

    1 minute ago, PaulRB said:

    How the [censored] is a dumb kick by an experienced player and concentration lapse from the mids a second later Goodwin fault!!!

    ffs the anti-coach cult on this site [censored] me.

    Couldn't agree more.

    If anything, Goodwin has showed that he can put a plan in place.  The slower ball movement meant we were playing the game on our terms and we were well in control.

    Then we gave away a free kick, had a horror turnover and then stunk it up in the middle.  That's 100% on the players.

    • Like 1

    This is the bit where Ratten’s plan E destroys Goodwin’s plan A.

    • Haha 3
     
    1 minute ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

    Jones had 5 turnovers from 10 disposals. He is done Wagner other than a couple of early fumbles has been solid. AVB hardly spotted. 

    Our midfielders needs to start getting their hands on the ball or their player if second to it.

     

    I won't argue that Jones should retire gracefully at the end of the year, but I don't think he's been THAT bad (outside of that absolute shocker of a turnover).

    11 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Goodwin again is being out-coached. Ratten has shut down our midfield and he just lets it happen.

    Rubbish, we had a 14 point lead on a side no one expects us to beat with 47 seconds left.

    This isn't coaching, this is player errors.

    • Like 1

    Guest
    This topic is now closed to further replies.
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 13

      Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Collingwood

      Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

        • Thanks
      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Sydney

      The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • REPORT: St. Kilda

      Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
      This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

        • Thanks
      • 4 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Collingwood

      After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
      • 231 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: St. Kilda

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Thanks
      • 47 replies
      Demonland
    View All