1 minute ago, Demon_spurs said:

Broken record, really out coached, up to Jones' brain fade we were playing really well. Sick of hearing out coached rubbish. Get a new record !

 

Steele has been let to do what he likes. The Saints have clamped down on all our midfield. We consistently give away undisciplined 50s. It gets down to coaching.

Just now, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Jones should put his hand up not to play next week.

What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

Just now, My name is legion said:

Nonsense. The players did it. Cooked chicken.

Please explain to me who teaches these muppets to tap the ball to the open side of the pack and have nobody defend it? Because that Steele goal at the end is the same [censored] I see week in week out. If it’s not the coaches who set this up, then our players deserve to be sacked for not following instructions. 

RDB would fix this.

Jones off - weak as [censored].Pi$$

Ellingworth on

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by Hardley Benial

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Up until the horrible turnover, Jones had actually been playing quite well.  Wagner hasn't been too bad either.

I'll give you Vanders, though.  I'm a fan but he's done nothing tonight other than setting up our third goal of the night.

Both have been shocking. Jones' lack of pace causes him to retreat and turn defensively when he gets the ball and he should be going forward. We have to many average users to be playing this chip it around the backline style as when the time comes to pull the trigger very few are capable.

Just now, Wiseblood said:

What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

 

Just now, Wiseblood said:

What he should be doing right now is putting his hand up to earn that goal back in the second half.  

Players aren't allowed to make errors. Because you know... just cause.

Plenty of moments to redeem himself.

2 tackles in the 2nd qtr, bruise free footy, all Hollywood or nothing, same old dumb mistakes. Doesn't help having Richo in the box either! 

Just now, Jaded said:

Please explain to me who teaches these muppets to tap the ball to the open side of the pack and have nobody defend it? Because that Steele goal at the end is the same [censored] I see week in week out. If it’s not the coaches who set this up, then our players deserve to be sacked for not following instructions. 

Surely it's both.  The set up wasn't good, but why is Gawn tapping it to that empty space?  It's not smart football with 30 seconds left.

8 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Goodwin again is being out-coached. Ratten has shut down our midfield and he just lets it happen.

How the [censored] is a dumb kick by an experienced player and concentration lapse from the mids a second later Goodwin fault!!!

ffs the anti-coach cult on this site [censored] me.

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by PaulRB

9 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I've been a strong Nathan Jones supporter but jeez that shocker changed the game.

It changed when Melky completely chit all over his leg and turned over his kick into 50, Jones just made it smellier. 

4 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

We have kicked accurately, that is the only positive from that half. We are getting smashed and I think once the game opens up we will get steam rolled.

It opened up the last 5 minutes and no surprise the Saints kicked 3 goals

Listening to Jordie Lewis on fox footy they were talking about the important Saints ball winners and he said, “Melbourne don’t have a tagger if an opposition player gets off the leash” I just thought, “actually we do but he has been played in the wrong position and dropped for form”. 

Harmes as a tagger IS A WEAPON. But we have botched his development and turned him into a useless half back player. 

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by Pates

Could not be scripted better for the Coach the players and the Club. Slender lead, opposition ascendancy and a season defining game on the line. I, an average footballer would take that as a challenge and would welcome that position as a coach.

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I've been a strong Nathan Jones supporter but jeez that shocker changed the game.

Career ending

How our players don’t even know the rules (50m penalties) is a complete failure on the coaches. Every week our oppos get free shots on goals due to dumb 50s on the wings. 1-2 goals it costs us a week

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Up until the horrible turnover, Jones had actually been playing quite well.  Wagner hasn't been too bad either.

I'll give you Vanders, though.  I'm a fan but he's done nothing tonight other than setting up our third goal of the night.

Jones had 5 turnovers from 10 disposals. He is done Wagner other than a couple of early fumbles has been solid. AVB hardly spotted. 

Our midfielders needs to start getting their hands on the ball or their player if second to it.

 

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by big_red_fire_engine

On the positive side we have a lot of players who can play a lot better this next half.

3 minutes ago, Pates said:

That squibbed mark early on in the second quarter was costly, put two hands up and take the contact if it comes. Jones’s late kick was disgusting but that kick was a beauty and should’ve set us up for a shot on goal. 

Squibbed mark what the [censored] are you watching Jones kicked it 5m wide and 5m high under no pressure on his wrong foot

Clarry tried to make the best of an awful situation he had no right to be in

4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Steele has been let to do what he likes. The Saints have clamped down on all our midfield. We consistently give away undisciplined 50s. It gets down to coaching.

I think the second half will come down to coaching lets see if Goodwin has any answers

Just now, Wiseblood said:

Surely it's both.  The set up wasn't good, but why is Gawn tapping it to that empty space?  It's not smart football with 30 seconds left.

I don’t know. Why does this happen every week? Because it’s a rinse and repeat pattern. Are our players really too stupid to follow instructions? Are they deaf? Poorly coached? Blind? Dehydrated? Drunk? I mean really I’m an unfit 34 year old who has never played footy in her life and I can see it. Why can’t they? Whoever they are?

3 minutes of I dont know what and all our efforts down the Crapper.

Goody needs to address the centre clearance differential. At this rate we will get hammered.

 

1 minute ago, PaulRB said:

How the [censored] is a dumb kick by an experienced player and concentration lapse from the mids a second later Goodwin fault!!!

ffs the anti-coach cult on this site [censored] me.

Couldn't agree more.

If anything, Goodwin has showed that he can put a plan in place.  The slower ball movement meant we were playing the game on our terms and we were well in control.

Then we gave away a free kick, had a horror turnover and then stunk it up in the middle.  That's 100% on the players.

This is the bit where Ratten’s plan E destroys Goodwin’s plan A.

1 minute ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Jones had 5 turnovers from 10 disposals. He is done Wagner other than a couple of early fumbles has been solid. AVB hardly spotted. 

Our midfielders needs to start getting their hands on the ball or their player if second to it.

 

I won't argue that Jones should retire gracefully at the end of the year, but I don't think he's been THAT bad (outside of that absolute shocker of a turnover).

11 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Goodwin again is being out-coached. Ratten has shut down our midfield and he just lets it happen.

Rubbish, we had a 14 point lead on a side no one expects us to beat with 47 seconds left.

This isn't coaching, this is player errors.