On 06/08/2020 at 01:27, Pickett2Jackson said:

Theyre gunning for pick 1, so they may not go that hard.  I hope they do though, I dont want any gift games.

There is no chance they finish below Adelaide, who will also have pick 2 as Crouch compo.

  On 06/08/2020 at 03:15, Pollyanna said:

There is no chance they finish below Adelaide, who will also have pick 2 as Crouch compo.

Who is going to pay that much for Crouch he is a spud?

AVB has been cleared of bone damage, however, that head clash early in the first quarter required 15 stitches above the eye on the same side as the cheekbone damage.  Unbelievably tough.

 

 

 

Better to pick fresh players off a four day break IMO. This was my view before the Port match and that only confirmed it.

Rivers, Pickett (if fit) and Hannan should all come in. TMac or Preuss as well if Gawn doesn't come up. Oscar should be considered as an option as well (moving Tomlinson into the midfield if he comes up). Hunt and Jetta are options.

ANB will get suspended unfortunately. And Bennell should be rested for the Collingwood game.

Our only irreplaceable are Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Langdon and May.

  On 05/08/2020 at 13:29, DubDee said:

Gawn rested

O Mac in

Hell, no - no OMac. 

Out: a managed Gawn and Bennell 

In: Hannan, Rivers, Hunt, Preusse (the latter if ANB is suspended)

Rucks: Jackson, Preusse, Tomlinson, Weideman (on rotation, zonal duties)

• Hunt to wing when Tomlinson rucks
• Hannan stays HFF for Bennell
• Rivers big-time half-back flank opportunity
• May CHB, Lever FB (both on rotation)
• Salem HBF on bench

Edited August 6, 20204 yr by Deemania since 56

  On 06/08/2020 at 03:19, goodwindees said:

AVB has been cleared of bone damage, however, that head clash early in the first quarter required 15 stitches above the eye on the same side as the cheekbone damage.  Unbelievably tough.

 

 

 

AVB is fair dinkum. He is already an icon. He'll be up for next week, coz he was out for so long. He makes our team accountable and straightens us up. Even Taylor Walker (who thinks he's tough with little guys) side-stepped and got out of the heat. All AVB was doing was walking past, silently. We love that contribution. For some of us, it is like having both Ray Biffen and Rod Grinter in the team. 

  On 06/08/2020 at 03:47, Deemania since 56 said:

AVB is fair dinkum. He is already an icon. He'll be up for next week, coz he was out for so long. He makes our team accountable and straightens us up. Even Taylor Walker (who thinks he's tough with little guys) side-stepped and got out of the heat. All AVB was doing was walking past, silently. We love that contribution. For some of us, it is like having both Ray Biffen and Rod Grinter in the team. 

AVB is such a warrior for us. It feels  hes played 200 games but hes played just 40!

  On 06/08/2020 at 03:22, Fat Tony said:

Better to pick fresh players off a four day break IMO. This was my view before the Port match and that only confirmed it.

Rivers, Pickett (if fit) and Hannan should all come in. TMac or Preuss as well if Gawn doesn't come up. Oscar should be considered as an option as well (moving Tomlinson into the midfield if he comes up). Hunt and Jetta are options.

ANB will get suspended unfortunately. And Bennell should be rested for the Collingwood game.

Our only irreplaceable are Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Langdon and May.

Why does Bennell have to be rested? He was rested against Port. Time to see what he can produce he doesn't need to be rested every second game. Can't see why Rivers should play we have enough backs. Pickett should come in but Hannan should find form first before he comes in. I think it's time to drop clanger king Jones for a player who can kick and that is to debut Jordon they are the only 2 changes I would make.

 

B: LOCKHART, MAY, LEVER

HB: HIBBERD, TOMLINSON, HARMES

C : LANGDON, PETRACCA, SALEM

HF: PICKETT, JACKSON, BENNELL

F: MELKSHAM, WEIDEMAN, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, VANDENBERG, SPARROW, JORDON

Even if not injured, you have to seriously consider dropping vandenBerg after that game.

Some absolute brain fades, some horrible disposal.

6 disposals, 2 tackles.

4 of his disposals were turnovers. 4. Out of 6.

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:08, Pickett2Jackson said:

AVB is such a warrior for us. It feels  hes played 200 games but hes played just 40!

A warrior, yes. But I still wonder whether that's enough. Last night he fumbled (but was not alone) and didn't do much with the ball.

AVB can be excused for his poor night considering the knock he took early in the game.

In: OMac, Bedford, Rivers

Out: ANB (surely forever), Jones, Lockhart

 

Hibbo, Omac, Lever

Salem, May, Harmes

Langdon Viney Tomlinson

Bennell Weideman Melksham

Jackson Fritsch Bedford

Gawn Oliver Petracca

Sparrow Rivers Brayshaw AVB(Jones)

 

 

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:13, Lord Nev said:

Even if not injured, you have to seriously consider dropping vandenBerg after that game.

Some absolute brain fades, some horrible disposal.

6 disposals, 2 tackles.

4 of his disposals were turnovers. 4. Out of 6.

And Free Kick Against total?

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:08, WERRIDEE said:

Why does Bennell have to be rested? He was rested against Port. Time to see what he can produce he doesn't need to be rested every second game. Can't see why Rivers should play we have enough backs. Pickett should come in but Hannan should find form first before he comes in. I think it's time to drop clanger king Jones for a player who can kick and that is to debut Jordon they are the only 2 changes I would make.

 

B: LOCKHART, MAY, LEVER

HB: HIBBERD, TOMLINSON, HARMES

C : LANGDON, PETRACCA, SALEM

HF: PICKETT, JACKSON, BENNELL

F: MELKSHAM, WEIDEMAN, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, VANDENBERG, SPARROW, JORDON

Bennell clearly still needs to be managed given his history. Another calf and its back to square one.

My view is that picking the best 22 every week in this compressed stretch of games is short-sighted. We are better off having fresh players so that our pressure game holds up. If it doesn't we don't have the skill level to win. As I said in my original post, only Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Langdon and May are irreplaceable and I think our depth is decent.

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:50, The Chazz said:

And Free Kick Against total?

2. And no frees for.

1 FA cost us a goal.

So really, 6 disposals, with 4 turnovers and 3 clangers, he did more for the Crows than us.

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:41, Grand New Flag said:

AVB can be excused for his poor night considering the knock he took early in the game.

Have only seen the highlights but noticed he was sporting a large head bandage.

  On 06/08/2020 at 04:41, Grand New Flag said:

AVB can be excused for his poor night considering the knock he took early in the game.

Maybe.

But to be honest his kicking was no worse than it usually is.

He looks like a butcher. Appropriate given how badly he butchers the ball every time he plays

  On 05/08/2020 at 23:06, titan_uranus said:

Presumably Pickett gets ANB's spot. if vandenBerg is injured, I'd get Hannan back in, as I don't think he should have been dropped. 

I'm not sold, at all, on Jones and wouldn't be against bringing someone fresh into the side to help with the four day break.

Yeah OK we get it, you don't like Tomlinson.

But much to your dismay, he was actually good last night, and I'm not sure Oscar will do any better on the "big aerial threats" of Larkey, Walker or Daw than Tomlinson will.

Tomlinson was asked to play a role, he played it well (no idea how you can be so confident that the reasons for moving him are limited to getting UPs and kicking from the backline - maybe it was just to play Oscar's role without the clangers?), and he deserves to hold his spot for at least one more week.

Was he good? He didn’t win the ball back, he mostly just existed against Adelaide’s crappy forwards and got a few uncontested touches.

AFL player ratings had him worst on ground for us.

I don’t have any faith in Tomlinson as a key defender, it’s just not his go. Where as Oscar has done the job on Day and Mitch Lewis. When Oscar has the right match up and is running on top of the ground he looks and plays like a proper tall defender. I’d be proactive and put him back in rather than waiting for Tomlinson to fail. 

  On 06/08/2020 at 05:10, old dee said:

Have only seen the highlights but noticed he was sporting a large head bandage.

AVB received a big head knock early in the game. Was lucky not to be concussed or to have broken something. Could explain his fumbling, but he's never really been a slick ball handler.

And should add that he wasn't alone, particularly in the first three quarters. For example, Langdon fumbled all night, although gets credit for being where the ball was so often at both ends of the ground.

  On 06/08/2020 at 05:30, DeeSpencer said:

Was he good? He didn’t win the ball back, he mostly just existed against Adelaide’s crappy forwards and got a few uncontested touches.

AFL player ratings had him worst on ground for us.

I don’t have any faith in Tomlinson as a key defender, it’s just not his go. Where as Oscar has done the job on Day and Mitch Lewis. When Oscar has the right match up and is running on top of the ground he looks and plays like a proper tall defender. I’d be proactive and put him back in rather than waiting for Tomlinson to fail. 

Oscar has been awful the last 2 weeks give Tomlinson a break he WAS good against the Crows. Player ratings are nothing.

Out:  ANB - he's no good.  makes zero impact.  but he'll be suspended anyway because he is also a dumb shid.  

In: Hannan or Pickett

Max has to play.  We need this win.  He'll be right.

Bennell has to stay in as well because he is a class footballer and we have F.A of them.  

And wtf is the difference between managed and rested?  FMD.  Its just another phrase coaches are using to make them sound sophisticated.  Goodwin loves making it all sound more complicated than it is.  He managed Bennell a couple of weeks ago Goodwin and 'managed' to f things up!  Keep it simple coaches.  Pick your most talented players.  We aren't good enough to be doing otherwise.

Is Vandenberg hurt or not?

  On 05/08/2020 at 21:49, big_red_fire_engine said:

Out: ANB, AVB, Bennell, Jones

In:  Spargo, Jordon, Pickett, Rivers 

 

SPARGO??? No way Hose!

  On 06/08/2020 at 05:40, WERRIDEE said:

Oscar has been awful the last 2 weeks give Tomlinson a break he WAS good against the Crows. Player ratings are nothing.

Don't know what games you're watching but Oscar has been good this year.  No defender is going to look good with the way the team played v Port.  

Oscar is never going to be a star - all he has to do is his role.  We have May, Lever, Hibberd, Salem and co to do the attacking things.

  On 06/08/2020 at 05:30, DeeSpencer said:

.......

 

Haha Taylor Walker had a net contribution of negative 1.

 

  On 06/08/2020 at 05:51, deelusions from afar said:

Don't know what games you're watching but Oscar has been good this year.  No defender is going to look good with the way the team played v Port.  

Oscar is never going to be a star - all he has to do is his role.  We have May, Lever, Hibberd, Salem and co to do the attacking things.

He got dropped for a reason so I don't know what you are watching. He's been average at best he's put in 2 shockers the reason why he's not in the side and 3 good games. He was good against West Coast but they preferred Smith which was in the end the wrong choice. Came back against the Suns and played well as he did the next week against the Hawks but he only has himself to blame for the last 2 weeks as he was terrible. Tomlinson deserves his spot and I hope hew keeps it because I don't rate Oscar one bit.