On 22/09/2020 at 03:49, Pollyanna said:

I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say.

For the record, there is NO WAY that Tom McDonald has ever said he'll only play if Oscar McDonald is selected.

This is the post truth, Trumpian world we now live in. Some peanut says something completely ridiculous. Not once, but over and over. So often in fact that it infects webland.

And eventually, rather than just being ignored as rubbish should be, it has to be refuted. 

And refuting, or indeed even acknowledging it, lends it some perverse credibilty.

There is no more obscene example that QAnon. 

And no more bizarre example of the Kafaeaque world we now live in when a sitting US president given the opportunity to denounce such a completely insane and dangerous conspiracy 'theory'  says "i don't know much about them, but i've heard they like me'.

  On 22/09/2020 at 02:55, dazzledavey36 said:

Was mentioned just before on SEN that norf have no interest in Tommy Mac.

Did you call in and tell them that neither do the Dees?

  On 22/09/2020 at 04:08, binman said:

And refuting, or indeed even acknowledging it, lends it some perverse credibilty.

Re-tweet

Watching his 2018 highlights and yes he was certainly moving better and far less robotic but he was also just full of confidence. Not a care about crashing in to a pack. Didn't run under the ball. Didn't stop and attempt to fend a player off, just grabbed the ball and ran.

The last two years he's played the same was as did as a defender in 2016 and parts of 2017 when he just lost all confidence in his kicking and clearly needed the freshen up of the ruck/forward role in 17 and then full time forward in 18.

All the fumbles, all the double grabbed marks, all the times he's got the ball in congestion and attempt to kick straight in to an opponents on coming smothers. They can't be due to physical problems. 

north have apparently said that they have no interest in him

this value has gone down in 2 years than I thought possible.  he won't get a game next year at all.  no club would want him.  maybe adelaide?

I believe he still has a contract.  It would best serve him and the club if they worked out what was going wrong (why he is ‘out of form’ as Goody said in a presser) and worked really hard to turn that around.  At his best, he is one of the first selected.  If he can regain that lost form, he would be a big asset, even if we did pick up another forward.  As a mobile swing man, he would be hard to match up on and hard to stop.

I hope the exit interview is more about what they reckon needs to happen for him to regain his form (is it injury based??).  If he is up for that, then get on with it.  If not, then you are welcome to test the market.  

I wonder what a medical at another club would show up?

I seem to remember Oscar playing mentioned as a condition of Tom resigning?

It does sound unlikely tho

  On 22/09/2020 at 06:49, defuture15 said:

I seem to remember Oscar playing mentioned as a condition of Tom resigning?

It does sound unlikely tho

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/48564-tom-mcdonald/?do=findComment&comment=1887460

  On 22/09/2020 at 06:49, defuture15 said:

I seem to remember Oscar playing mentioned as a condition of Tom resigning?

It does sound unlikely tho

Truly incredible in every possible way!

Give him away to any team willing to pay more then $25K of his salary as that’s how much better off we will be. Absolutely useless on our list and just a clogger who whinges.

I remember he instigated that protest at the off-season camp and also blames the club for his body shape (As if that’s the cause for his concrete can’t mark hands).

Pick 100 and $25K of his salary (we cover the rest) and it’s  a done deal for me. We won’t get better then that, even North (We l take anyone) Melbourne don’t want him 

I believe Tom was the instigator of the players who refused to go on the pre season camp

  On 22/09/2020 at 02:44, DubDee said:

I heard it was BMW with bombers plates 

stay tuned, more breaking news to come 

 

Toms contracted. Let’s work on getting his foot right, or an extraordinary good deal.

No one should get Tom cheap IMO.

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:37, Elegt said:

I believe Tom was the instigator of the players who refused to go on the pre season camp

Good on him. Why allow yourself to be tortured by psychopaths?

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:37, Elegt said:

I believe Tom was the instigator of the players who refused to go on the pre season camp

Dom Tyson was another 

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:48, dieter said:

Good on him. Why allow yourself to be tortured by psychopaths?

This wasn't a collective minds camp

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:37, Elegt said:

I believe Tom was the instigator of the players who refused to go on the pre season camp

 

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:48, Vineytime said:

Dom Tyson was another 

If that's true, good for them.

They were 100% right.

Look what a similar camp did for Adelaide.

You don't leave a valuable commodity, your players in the charge of unqualified people.

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:58, rjay said:

 

If that's true, good for them.

They were 100% right.

Look what a similar camp did for Adelaide.

You don't leave a valuable commodity, your players in the charge of unqualified people.

Fully agree with you on this. Sick of the nonsense being spoken in regards to this. Maybe the dees had the leadership that Adelaide lacked to stand up and say no. we very well might have saved ourselves an Adelaide like unravelling. I recognise those camps were run by different groups but if the squad isnt behind it then very probably something wasn't right. How about we presume the players were actually on to something rather than they were wimps. 

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:42, Dockett 32 said:

Toms contracted. Let’s work on getting his foot right, or an extraordinary good deal.

No one should get Tom cheap IMO.

He’s Worth about a third rounder. 

I wish he could come back but it’s very unlikely 

  On 22/09/2020 at 04:08, binman said:

This is the post truth, Trumpian world we now live in. Some peanut says something completely ridiculous. Not once, but over and over. So often in fact that it infects webland.

And eventually, rather than just being ignored as rubbish should be, it has to be refuted. 

And refuting, or indeed even acknowledging it, lends it some perverse credibilty.

There is no more obscene example that QAnon. 

And no more bizarre example of the Kafaeaque world we now live in when a sitting US president given the opportunity to denounce such a completely insane and dangerous conspiracy 'theory'  says "i don't know much about them, but i've heard they like me'.

It's like the whole thing about the club requiring him to add muscle.

That was spread on here like gospel.

Turns out, as far as anyone is aware, there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

There is no way that there is not something physically wrong with Tommy and I find it a little perplexing that his form was being blamed while he hobbled around the field like a shot deer.

If they can find out what the issue is and remedy it, I believe we still have a very useful player. Otherwise, he should retire.

As a Dees supporter of some 30-odd years, it's very easy to imagine a scenario where Tommy is traded, sorts out his physical ailments and goes back to tormenting backlines as he did in 2018.

That's the stuff of nightmares, that is.

Edited September 22, 20204 yr by Cheesy D. Pun

  On 22/09/2020 at 09:19, DubDee said:

He’s Worth about a third rounder. 

I wish he could come back but it’s very unlikely 

Who knows how likely? Stuffed if l really know the extent of his injury, or future prospects.

We do know he can play when right and he is contracted to us.

Plenty to go before him l reckon. Don’t see the need to be hasty on this blokes departure on the back of his  overall record.

The ducks and drakes of football.

 

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:37, Elegt said:

I believe Tom was the instigator of the players who refused to go on the pre season camp

Dom Tyson

  On 21/09/2020 at 21:41, Deemania since 56 said:

Gets rid of OMac as well. That is something well overdue. Tom did say in an earlier, influential,  'in form' stage of his game that if he is to play footy for the MFC, then his little brother must play/be selected as well - and that was quite a few years ago. Basically, no onfield OMac, then TMac will not play. Holding the Club to ransom, for how many years, how many losses, how many double=teamed teammates to cover so necessarily for OMac each game he plays? It all added up to a footy team with limited hope to improve, win games, keep its head above water - and not one coach / selection panel had the guts to do something positive about it. Electra Glide in Blue 

Find this interview  and post, it is an absolute lie!

  On 22/09/2020 at 08:50, Elegt said:

This wasn't a collective minds camp

It was a friggin boot camp, lowest common denominator mind games, physical torture stuff. Who in his right mind, with any self respect, would allow himself to be dictated to by a psychopath?????Maybe this is your idea of promoting 'conformity' and blind allegiance. Kubrick's film Thin Metal Jacket exposes the mindset you seem to condone. Never mind, the world is made of many compartments, yours is one I respect people for avoiding.