On 20/07/2020 at 10:28, binman said:

Modern footy is a million miles away from the one on one game it was in the 80s and not the 90s. It will never go back there. Deal

 

Seems to be the norm across all sports.  I think its just become too 'professional' and too much money involved. 

I loved the NBA in the 90s....     all they do is shoot three pointers now and there are no true Centres any more... it is so boring.

  On 20/07/2020 at 09:55, Pickett2Jackson said:

3:45 for some Dee porn

 

https://www.afl.com.au/video/467730/the-moment-blues-blew-it-how-selection-calls-have-saved-a-season?videoId=467730&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1595233241001

I have never heard the Velvet Sledgehammer give so much praise to the MFC before!!

  On 19/07/2020 at 12:26, dazzledavey36 said:

BTW how Tom Mitchell ever won a brownlow is beyond me.

You couldn't find a more bland and boring footballer who racks up useless stats that has zero influence or hurt factor.

 

I said it at the time he won the Brownlow. He’s devalued the award now. Cheap stats

  On 19/07/2020 at 12:51, Tigger said:

Most enjoyable afternoon i can remember for a long time, but we'll  see where we really sit after next week (hopefully 4-3). 

.....with a game in hand.

We haven't beaten Hawthorn more than 3 times in  succession in home and away plus finals since round 8 of 1967  to round 18 of 1968 . 

52 YEARS ? WOW !  That is quite a while  ago. I traced it back because l couldn't remember having the wood on them.since the early 60s.

  On 20/07/2020 at 13:35, nosoupforme said:

We haven't beaten Hawthorn more than 3 times in  succession in home and away plus finals since round 8 of 1967  to round 18 of 1968 . 

52 YEARS ? WOW !  That is quite a while  ago. I traced it back because l couldn't remember having the wood on them.since the early 60s.

The last time we actually beat Hawthorn 3 times in a row in H&A was from Round 2 1994 - Round 8 1995. That doesn't include finals of course as we didn't play another final against them until the SF in 2018. 

  On 20/07/2020 at 13:57, DemonWorshipper said:

The last time we actually beat Hawthorn 3 times in a row in H&A was from Round 2 1994 - Round 8 1995. That doesn't include finals of course as we didn't play another final against them until the SF in 2018. 

Thats a really sad stat considering the Hawks were a poor to average team for a solid decade from approximately 1996-2006.

They made the bottom 4 quite a few times.

  On 20/07/2020 at 13:57, DemonWorshipper said:

The last time we actually beat Hawthorn 3 times in a row in H&A was from Round 2 1994 - Round 8 1995. That doesn't include finals of course as we didn't play another final against them until the SF in 2018. 

Good catch  DW  However the years are part of what l gave because l was looking for that 3 in succession .

Round 6 of 19 to 64 to round 18 of 1968  7 in Succession.  Check just in case l missed another between 64 - 68.

  On 19/07/2020 at 11:01, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I'm looking forward to the day when our midfield of Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney and Brayshaw is as ominous as Garner, Marshall, Holding, Roberts and Croft. 

Garner was a change bowler, remember? OMG. 

  On 20/07/2020 at 17:54, Grr-owl said:

Garner was a change bowler, remember? OMG. 

I know. Scary. And his replacement when he retired was Curtly Ambrose. 

  On 20/07/2020 at 04:02, Nasher said:

This is just inventing what happens in the box, just to suit narrative/agenda. Goody’s started listening to his assistants and now we’re good. Or Goody’s stopped listening to his muppet assistants and become an authoritarian, and that’s what has made us good. Or, the most likely thing, the relationship with the assistants is the same as it always was, and they’ve arrived at the right chemistry by chipping away at the problem together.

We don’t know though, so we shouldn’t guess. In my view if we’re prepared to unreservedly put the blow torch on Goodwin when we’re struggling then we have to be prepared to give him all the credit when we’re flying. Anything otherwise is complete double standards.

For the record, I do neither.

So Nash does that mean you have no standards? 

Coaches votes are in:

10 Christian Petracca (MELB)

8 Max Gawn (MELB)

5 Clayton Oliver (MELB)

3 Jack Viney (MELB)

2 Steven May (MELB)

1 James Sicily (HAW)

1 Sam Weideman (MELB)

 

What great encouragement for Sam to have caught the eye of at least one coach.

 

To detail the votes:

5/5  Petracca

4/4  Gawn

3/2 Oliver

3/0  Viney

2/0  May

1  Sicily

1  Weideman.

First 3 similarly rated by coaches.  One coach rated Viney and one coach rated May.

Edited July 21, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

		: Fab to see Christian 3rd.  Great reward for his work in pre-season and in the last 6 rounds. Some commentators are questioning why it has taken 6 years for him to start fulfilling his potential.  I reckon that is harsh as he spent his first year out with an ACL.  Last year he had a good season, not great but good and as we were a poor team we didn't make the most of it. And to have Max at 8th bodes well for him and the mighty dees! Also remember they have played one less game than everyone else.   Great individual efforts but backed up by very good players around them.

Edited July 21, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

  On 21/07/2020 at 02:12, Lucifer's Hero said:

Coaches votes are in:

10 Christian Petracca (MELB)

8 Max Gawn (MELB)

5 Clayton Oliver (MELB)

3 Jack Viney (MELB)

2 Steven May (MELB)

1 James Sicily (HAW)

1 Sam Weideman (MELB)

 

What great encouragement for Sam to have caught the eye of at least one coach.

Would be very curious to know which coach gave which one vote to Sicily and Weideman.

Also somewhat surprised to see May in there.

 

Really enjoy the coach's votes - they give a great insight.

PETRACCA  5, 5

GAWN  4, 4

OLIVER 3, 2

VINEY  3

MAY  2

SICILY  1

WEIDEMAN  1

 

 

 

  On 21/07/2020 at 02:43, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Would be very curious to know which coach gave which one vote to Sicily and Weideman.

Also somewhat surprised to see May in there.

Really enjoy the coach's votes - they give a great insight.

PETRACCA  5, 5

GAWN  4, 4

OLIVER 3, 2

VINEY  3

MAY  2

SICILY  1

WEIDEMAN  1

I don't recall Sicily impacting the game so purely a guess that Clarkson 1 to Sicily and Goodwin 1 to Weideman to reflect they played to instructions and more than fulfilled the role assigned.

I'm wondering who didn't give Viney any votes...

Edited July 21, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Great win but as many have pointed out Hawks were abysmal. The win against GCS was scrappy but perhaps a better test.

Win against Brisbane and who knows... Lose and ???

  On 19/07/2020 at 11:51, DemonOX said:

Twinkle toes Kozzie. 

Thinking man's football - as good as Stan Alves' blind turns, almost. Amazing evasion, with great potential. (Grab him by the collar at training one night, Stanley, to teach him your magic with the baulk and blind turns. He has the footwork skills and the pace.)

Whens the marketing dept gonna release some Red & Blue face masks......lets be first cab off the rank..........sick of white ones already.

Trac and Gawn clearly our best two players on the weekend. 
 

Good to see Sam Frost chatting with a few players after the match. He was ok for the dorks and I cannot remember one clanger or shocking turnover. Kept it steady with 20 metre passes. Certainly no long runs or panic attacks. Maybe they’re dosing him up on Valium!  

  On 20/07/2020 at 10:35, Pickett2Jackson said:

Seems to be the norm across all sports.  I think its just become too 'professional' and too much money involved. 

I loved the NBA in the 90s....     all they do is shoot three pointers now and there are no true Centres any more... it is so boring.

100% agree, over professionalised and over coached.  Still at least last round a number of team were determined to take the game on.  I miss the Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Mutombo, Daugherty, Mourning days (yep im sounding old)

  On 21/07/2020 at 02:43, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Also somewhat surprised to see May in there.

I'm not.  He was terrific down back for us on the weekend.  Couldn't get anything past him, although you almost wish those votes could go to the whole defensive unit for their effort in keeping the Hawks to 7 goals.

  On 21/07/2020 at 02:21, Lucifer's Hero said:

Some commentators are questioning why it has taken 6 years for him to start fulfilling his potential.

Agree, it's a bit ridiculous. Dusty didn't stamp himself as an elite player until his 8th year, and it feels like he's been dominating forever now.

Patience is a virtue.  

 

  On 20/07/2020 at 13:57, DemonWorshipper said:

The last time we actually beat Hawthorn 3 times in a row in H&A was from Round 2 1994 - Round 8 1995. That doesn't include finals of course as we didn't play another final against them until the SF in 2018. 

The consecutive wins Rnd 22 and Elim Final 1990 were special - stopped their run for three premierships in a row. Like Paul Simon's boxer, I take some comfort there.

  On 21/07/2020 at 23:11, pitmaster said:

The consecutive wins Rnd 22 and Elim Final 1990 were special - stopped their run for three premierships in a row. Like Paul Simon's boxer, I take some comfort there.

I like the way you've put the whores into Hawthorn

  On 21/07/2020 at 23:35, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I like the way you've put the whores into Hawthorn

On Seventh Avenue ...