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In addition to Jack there are a few FA's yet to make a call:  Crouch, Daniher, Cameron.  They are being linked to Port, Geelong, Brisbane, Collingwood

There is a school of thought that FA's don't ask to go or nominate their preferred club until that club is out of finals. 

It looks like a domino needs to fall first eg on the basis that Geelong is the main suitor for Viney maybe they are waiting to see what Crouch does ( If Crouch goes to Geelong they don't take Viney).  Couch is also being linked to Port again. 

If Jack is planning to stay it is hard to see what is stopping him from re-signing.  If he doesn't sign in the next week, I feel we may be in for a long wait. 

I feel for him.  It must be a massive emotional tug-of-war.  Hopefully, he decides soon.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 11:41, Sir Why You Little said:

Simon looks like he’s just popped a high grade Magic Mushroom ? 

 

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You might be on to something here SWYL; psilocybin in microdoses is an effective treatment for PTSD. Watching us play might have got to him one too many times. 

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  On 23/09/2020 at 10:06, Lord Nev said:

Word is, 5 year deal, locked in.

 

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Jesus I hope this isn't true. 27, dodgy feet, can't play team first footy.... 5 years? 

Let us hope the club isn't that stupid and learnt from their idiotic Harmes deal. 

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:35, Jaded said:

Jesus I hope this isn't true. 27, dodgy feet, can't play team first footy.... 5 years? 

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He finished 3rd in the B&F over Oliver and Gawn. I'm willing to say that this 'not team first' stuff is complete rubbish.

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:35, Jaded said:

Jesus I hope this isn't true. 27, dodgy feet, can't play team first footy.... 5 years? 

Let us hope the club isn't that stupid and learnt from their idiotic Harmes deal. 

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We never learn.

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:40, Axis of Bob said:

He finished 3rd in the B&F over Oliver and Gawn. I'm willing to say that this 'not team first' stuff is complete rubbish.

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Perhaps he plays the role the club wants him to play, but when I see him bash and crash his own teammates and repeatedly get caught with ball in hand, it doesn't appear that he gels with the rest of the inside mids, and to me we play better when he isn't in the centre bounce.

Regardless, at his age and with his history of foot injuries, 5 years is far too many. 

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:43, Jaded said:

Perhaps he plays the role the club wants him to play, but when I see him bash and crash his own teammates and repeatedly get caught with ball in hand, it doesn't appear that he gels with the rest of the inside mids, and to me we play better when he isn't in the centre bounce.

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So he plays team first footy.

He's always been a battering ram .... it isn't his choice, it's how he plays. It's a blessing and a curse. If you said he may not complement our midfield, that's one thing, but saying he doesn't play team first footy because he doesn't have Oliver's in close hands and vision is rubbish.

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:43, Jaded said:

Perhaps he plays the role the club wants him to play, but when I see him bash and crash his own teammates and repeatedly get caught with ball in hand, it doesn't appear that he gels with the rest of the inside mids, and to me we play better when he isn't in the centre bounce.

Regardless, at his age and with his history of foot injuries, 5 years is far too many. 

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Its actually laughable he finished ahead of Ed Langdon and as high as 3rd.

Langdon had a much more productive and team orientated year then Viney.

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Jack Viney - 3rd in the B&F (2020); 3rd in the B&F (2019); 17th in B&F (2018; 10 games); 2nd in B&F (2017); 1st in B&F (2016); 2nd in B&F (2015); 2014 (11th; ); 2013 - best first year player (14th; 13 games). 8 seasons, 5 top 3 finishes. 

Yeah, I'm ok with Jack playing another 5 years with the Demons.....

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:49, Dee-licious said:

Jack Viney - 3rd in the B&F (2020); 3rd in the B&F (2019); 17th in B&F (2018; 10 games); 2nd in B&F (2017); 1st in B&F (2016); 2nd in B&F (2015); 2014 (not in top 10); 2013 - best first year player. 8 seasons, 5 top 3 finishes. 

Yeah, I'm ok with Jack playing another 5 years with the Demons.....

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Jack would have finished like 8th this year should his name be anything other than Viney 

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:47, Axis of Bob said:

So he plays team first footy.

He's always been a battering ram .... it isn't his choice, it's how he plays. It's a blessing and a curse. If you said he may not complement our midfield, that's one thing, but saying he doesn't play team first footy because he doesn't have Oliver's in close hands and vision is rubbish.

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Perhaps team first footy wasn't the right choice of words, but to me a player who gets in the way of his teammates and doesn't know his own limitations, is detrimental to his teammates. There is no doubt he goes hard and gives his all every week. I never doubt his desire or application, and never have. I have no problems if he stays, and I believe there is a role for him in the side, but I definitely do not rate him as highly as our coaches clearly do. 

And I never commented on his skills. His skills are fine for the role he plays. I think he would be better suited to play in a midfield where he is the main and best clearance player. He isn't at Melbourne, and from the outside looking in, hasn't learnt to play second fiddle to Oliver. 

From my perspective both Oliver and Langdon had better seasons and were more crucial to us winning the games we did. Coaches don't agree, and that is fine. They have their own matrix that we clearly don't see. 

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  On 24/09/2020 at 00:35, Jaded said:

Jesus I hope this isn't true. 27, dodgy feet, can't play team first footy.... 5 years? 

Let us hope the club isn't that stupid and learnt from their idiotic Harmes deal. 

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Erm ..... how long have you been barracking for this club again?

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