How good was our start. Goody identified that starts were going to be so important this season. Trained for it and and the players implemented it. Thats great coaching. Ahead of the curve. And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

3 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

How good was our start. Goody identified that starts were going to be so important this season. Trained for it and and the players implemented it. Thats great coaching. Ahead of the curve. And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

Go missing for 3 quarter's  this week and we will loose by 10 goals.

 

3 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

How good was our start. Goody identified that starts were going to be so important this season. Trained for it and and the players implemented it. Thats great coaching. Ahead of the curve. And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

I do agree on the second point. Mind you it is nothing but Coaching play 101.  Gee I do it will Under 12 basketballers. Different sport, same principle. 

A lot of us have been too negative about the weekend. We were not the only team to go missing for a large patch of the game.   

Good start - tick

Petracca in the middle - tick

Using Tomlinson and Langdon effectively - tick

Winning when we probably didn't deserve to (like good teams do) - tick

It would be nice to go out and try to win the game. It was like watching a soccer game where one side tries to protect a1 nil lead.

2 minutes ago, Gouga said:

A lot of us have been too negative about the weekend. We were not the only team to go missing for a large patch of the game.   

Good start - tick

Petracca in the middle - tick

Using Tomlinson and Langdon effectively - tick

Winning when we probably didn't deserve to (like good teams do) - tick

Yep, i can see Blues Boys and us playing off in the GF.....

18 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Yep, i can see Blues Boys and us playing off in the GF.....

That would be great! We have the mental edge after 5 wins in a row... 

1 hour ago, Grimes Times said:

 And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

Someone forgot to tell Nev though. That kick with a minute to go was diabolical.

1 hour ago, Grimes Times said:

How good was our start. Goody identified that starts were going to be so important this season. Trained for it and and the players implemented it. Thats great coaching. Ahead of the curve. And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

I agree.....Fantastic coaching.....elite.

 

The players either need to show they are willing to really play for their coach, or the coach needs to go. Really p*ss poor effort for most the game on the weekend, against the worst team in the comp, not even nearly good enough. Buck stops at the coach.

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

The players either need to show they are willing to really play for their coach, or the coach needs to go. Really p*ss poor effort for most the game on the weekend, against the worst team in the comp, not even nearly good enough. Buck stops at the coach.

Reckon the two halves of the Adelaide community, from opposing perspectives, might beg to differ with you, King!?

I love how he also made sure Carlton hit the post twice in the last quarter, thereby ensuring we won with a last minute miss by Fritsch. Genius! 

4 hours ago, Grimes Times said:

How good was our start. Goody identified that starts were going to be so important this season. Trained for it and and the players implemented it. Thats great coaching. Ahead of the curve. And lets not forget our save the game last 2 minutes. Once again trained it and looked so much more prepared and organised than the opposition.

That's why he gets paid the big bucks - he's full of great ideas, our Simon is.

Pity he didn't do anything between the first quarter and the last two minutes though.

3 hours ago, Gouga said:

A lot of us have been too negative about the weekend. We were not the only team to go missing for a large patch of the game.   

Good start - tick

Petracca in the middle - tick

Using Tomlinson and Langdon effectively - tick

Winning when we probably didn't deserve to (like good teams do) - tick

Jesus Christ.

Assume this is a sarcastic OP but hard to tell

we played a bottom team and couldn't stop them coming back from 7 goals to nil. terrible coaching. I've been a Goody supporter but my patience is running out quickly

14 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Assume this is a sarcastic OP but hard to tell

we played a bottom team and couldn't stop them coming back from 7 goals to nil. terrible coaching. I've been a Goody supporter but my patience is running out quickly

Not sarcastic at all. Did we start well? Best quarter we have played for over 12 months.

Take out a couple skills errors (eg Nevs kick, trac dropped mark) did we control the last 2 minutes.

I never said anything about the middle but you cant wack the coach without giving credit. Could Hardwick stop Carl coming back in round 1 to get within 2 goals from a similar position??

12 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

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... Could Hardwick stop Carl coming back in round 1 to get within 2 goals from a similar position??

Well that is an interesting question.

There is a rot that has persisted with Goodwin as coach in the sense of being unable to stop the momentum of other teams for large periods. I doubt there’s another side in the league that looks as consistently ropey with a large lead. We got away with it on the weekend because Carlton did not have the weaponry to really make us pay. This is why supporters are frustrated and it is ultimately on Goodwin’s head that a cultural environment that allows such lapses continues to persist.

That said, on game day it is ultimately not Goodwin’s fault when the players stop tackling, slow to a crawl and make outrageously dumb decisions. He can’t get out on the field and do it for them. Unless he is as batscat crazy as some may think, it’s doubtful he’s telling the players to drop their intensity and standards.

Further, while there were some worrying signs and issues that seem to persist it is convenient for us to lump it in with our 2019 problems and the miasma of disappointment that has befallen the club since the 60’s. MFCSS 101. There’s plenty to work on as well as many valid concerns but there were plenty of other teams that played ordinary football this round, many of them being premiership fancies. A bigger 2020 sample size is needed. 

It was all good when we didn't let Carlton get their hands on the ball. Once they did it was hot knife through butter stuff. Good teams will wallop us if we play like that.

It's the clearances and stoppages where we fell apart.

As Supermercado says above when they didn't get the ball we were unstoppable.

We keep being talked about as a great stoppage team, but we aren't.  I think back to 2019 and round 1 this year when West Coast would just waltz away with the ball from clearances without any of our players within about five metres of them,

I think Gawn is a little bit to blame as he keeps knocking the ball to the same spots, never punches it forward or makes things unpredictable.

This makes the decision the move Harmes from the midfield all the more perplexing because it isn't as strong as people think. We probably should have also looked at another midfielder with pick 3 instead of Jackson (who I'm sure will be good for us), but that's another story.

2 hours ago, Jaded said:

I love how he also made sure Carlton hit the post twice in the last quarter, thereby ensuring we won with a last minute miss by Fritsch. Genius! 

Well the players are entertainers...

6 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

I do agree on the second point. Mind you it is nothing but Coaching play 101.  Gee I do it will Under 12 basketballers. Different sport, same principle. 

It's the 'slam it forward to the hotspot so often you can't lose' strategy applied to the time scale. IE Belt em so hard in the first quarter that they can't come back, or if they do, we'll have reserve energy to lift in the last few mins. Sophisticated stuff. Hasn't worked for Collingwood yet though. 

Edited June 15, 20205 yr by John Demonic

6 hours ago, Grimes Times said:

Not sarcastic at all. Did we start well? Best quarter we have played for over 12 months.

Take out a couple skills errors (eg Nevs kick, trac dropped mark) did we control the last 2 minutes.

I never said anything about the middle but you cant wack the coach without giving credit. Could Hardwick stop Carl coming back in round 1 to get within 2 goals from a similar position??

Yes we played a good first quarter. Then 3 poor quarters against a bottom 4 team. 
 

so great coaching is a stretch

11 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

I do agree on the second point. Mind you it is nothing but Coaching play 101.  Gee I do it will Under 12 basketballers. Different sport, same principle. 

Agreed

9 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

The players either need to show they are willing to really play for their coach, or the coach needs to go. Really p*ss poor effort for most the game on the weekend, against the worst team in the comp, not even nearly good enough. Buck stops at the coach.

Mate, read what recently retired players, Lewis, Vince etc, or present assistant coaches say, notably that the players love playing for Goodwin