45 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

My recollection is that the "Leadership Group" concept either arose from or was strongly pushed by that consulting company called Leading Teams. I haven't heard anything about Leading Teams in quite a while. Does it still exist? Do other clubs still use it? And have the methods and ideas of Leading Teams fallen out of favour? 

Yep their office in South Melbourne is still open

No sure that they added any measurable difference to our Team. Bit of a fad in my opinion.

 

57 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

My recollection is that the "Leadership Group" concept either arose from or was strongly pushed by that consulting company called Leading Teams. I haven't heard anything about Leading Teams in quite a while. Does it still exist? Do other clubs still use it? And have the methods and ideas of Leading Teams fallen out of favour? 

"While talk can be cheap, Hodge, now playing at Brisbane, has “no doubt” the meeting helped Hawthorn win three successive premierships from that point."

Leading Teams: The program behind so many Australian sporting success stories

 

Edited February 25, 20206 yr by Lord Nev

To @Skuit

Thanks for the suggestions (I have used them before)  but I prefer to keep my postings as short (in length) as possible.

Some posters quote long entries and add only a single line of commentary. I find these posts wasteful. Navigating these threads is hard enough without spending time scrolling through pages and pages of repeated entries.

14 minutes ago, tiers said:

To @Skuit

Thanks for the suggestions (I have used them before)  but I prefer to keep my postings as short (in length) as possible.

Some posters quote long entries and add only a single line of commentary. I find these posts wasteful. Navigating these threads is hard enough without spending time scrolling through pages and pages of repeated entries.

Keeping in mind the carbon footprint.

2 hours ago, tiers said:

To Skuit. I like monkeys. 

You can delete the irrelevant parts from the quote to shorten the length. 

So long as you don't drastically alter the meaning I think it's mostly okay. 

@skuit

I never posted about monkeys.

@demonland

Someone has posted a fake comment in my name. Please investigate and fix.

17 hours ago, Skuit said:

To tiers,

There's a quote function located on the left-hand side below each post. You can also add an @ symbol before a poster's name to get their attention. Like this @tiers.

Yours sincerely, Skuit.  

You are a kindred spirit Mr Skuit, I'm constantly working on my sincerity.

Edited February 26, 20206 yr by dworship
spellin stuped

On 2/25/2020 at 9:30 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

And for those people worrying about how Jack Viney might take the demotion (a concern I share), I hope someone sets him up to have a conversation with Sam Mitchell. Mitchell didn't appear to lose his ability, drive or support for the club after the same thing happened to him. To me, that showed real leadership and class.  

Mitchell was appointed Captain under an arrangement that he would hand it over to Hodge after (from memory) 2 seasons. So not relevant. 

On 2/25/2020 at 1:13 PM, Maldonboy38 said:

Max as captain will mean a huge increase in quality of media interviews and PR that AFL skippers have to do. He is natural, funny, direct, uncompromising and most importantly - he can think on his feet. 

I am yet to see how his on-field leadership will go. He has massive boots to fill after Jones and Viney, whose on-field actions were often inspiring and ferocious. Both are warriors. I know they can continue to do it without the title of captain, but can Max do it? The first 8 rounds of the regular season will be very interesting to see how he develops. 

In Paul Roos's words "Leadership is players telling other players what to do."  I loved Jones and Viney leading by their actions but unfortunately not sure they were great at guiding players by telling them what to do. Max has to do this in the midfield setups. Will be interesting to see how he manages around the ground. Lever and May appear to be the standout onfield leaders that satisfy this criteria. We need a lot more of them. 

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

Mitchell was appointed Captain under an arrangement that he would hand it over to Hodge after (from memory) 2 seasons. So not relevant. 

In Paul Roos's words "Leadership is players telling other players what to do."  I loved Jones and Viney leading by their actions but unfortunately not sure they were great at guiding players by telling them what to do. Max has to do this in the midfield setups. Will be interesting to see how he manages around the ground. Lever and May appear to be the standout onfield leaders that satisfy this criteria. We need a lot more of them. 

I don't recall that arrangement, but I don't see why it makes it any less relevant. Mitchell still had to cope with the perception that he had been slighted, even if it was structured in a different way. 

Edited February 27, 20206 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia

30 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I don't recall that arrangement, but I don't see why it makes it any less relevant. Mitchell still had to cope with the perception that he had been slighted, even if it was structured in a different way. 

Don't agree. There were two worthy Captains and they had an agreed Captaincy sharing model. Mitchell first two years, Hodge after that. Very different to being stripped of it after you've been appointed permanently. 

A bit irrelevant really. Your point is taken that hopefully JV will be fully engaged despite being stripped of the Captaincy. You'd think knowing what we do of him that he will be. Can't imagine it being any other way. I'd be more interested in what impact the discovery that Polly Farmer had CTE will have on the head first take no prisoners way he plays the game which has already lead to a few concussions including one in an intraclub match. 

7 hours ago, Demonland said:

Thanks so much for that

Feel the Bern. What a great pick up he continues to be

Completely random...

I was playing a game of blackout tonight (online PS4 game) and I was put into a random lobby with Jay Lockhart on my team. 

Really nice guy, super excited for the year ahead and was vocal about how pumped he was about Maxy being captain. 

LOL at this guy being made captain

 

Just now, Pickett2Jackson said:

LOL at this guy being made captain

 

Who would you pick over him?

Just now, SPC said:

Who would you pick over him?

And here lies the real issue. We have no leadership. Not since Junior have we had a really good captain. 

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Who would you pick over him?

Nobody.  Go captain-less.

We dont have a single leader.

Gawn tried. He tries. But his hit outs aren’t to our advantage!!?!?!?!

Was poor again. Consistently rucking from behind at throw ins. Why? I guess the one time he played in front he let his opponent grab it out of the ruck and kick a goal which was nice.

Problem is we have no choice. Look at May, numerous times giving up contested marks in conditions that couldn't be better for a backman.

It was noticeable that there were a few of the agraders who weren’t even looking at Max when he was trying to rev them up at three quarter time, especially Oliver. Doesn’t seem to have any connection with his mid fielders. Notice how manY times the hit outs go straight to the opposition. Either he is not positioning them or they are just plain dumb. Tossup really.

y 

Hmmm, I've gone very cold (sub zero) on this appointment.

13 minutes ago, Jaded said:

And here lies the real issue. We have no leadership. Not since Junior have we had a really good captain. 

And look how that captaincy ended. 

Our last great leader was retired by the club before his time. 

Leadership issues are endemic on and off the field for us.

22 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Gawn tried. He tries. But his hit outs aren’t to our advantage!!?!?!?!

Yep. We would actually be better with a tall midfielder contesting hit outs. No idea why gawn keeps hitting it to the other team

Max isn’t the answer. Too much ego, too much stupidity. A lot talk, not a lot of listening. 

That kick to Kossie in the last quarter was unforgivable. Max has zero game sense.

Admittedly he’d just taken a good defensive mark, but had blokes free laterally and also had Steven May screaming at him to let him know. So he kicks long to a contest with the smallest bloke on the park