2020 Pass Mark

[Demonland 73,465]

What's your pass mark for the Dees in 2020?

What would mean a successful season for your team?

Top four? Finals? Six wins?

AFL 2020 predictions: Every club's pass mark for this season

Melbourne

Qualify for the finals

How do you bounce back after a season from hell?

Internally, Melbourne have probably set the bar higher than this, but the reality is, they won just five games last year with pretty much the same list.

They should be in much better nick come round one this year and will hopefully have learned some lessons from 2019.

Having been handed a favourable draw, this season will be the year where we learn if the 2018 preliminary final appearance was the outlier or the Dees are ready to finally challenge again.

[Docs Demons 1,792]

Finals

[Sir Why You Little 37,296]

Win Finals

We must stand up under pressure as a club and not buckle

[Demons11 7,096]

Premiership 

[drdrake 3,203]

Consistency,  they end result will take care of itself if we can narrow the gap between our best and worst football.  Putting a win loss target or what position we finish to hard for 2020, just play good strong consistent football and I will be happy.  No more quarters where we are just plain terrible. 

[rjay 25,301]

We have a markedly better list than we had in 2018.

Last year was the outlier, you can't play above yourself but you can certainly play below.

A list of factors conspired to give us season 2019.

This is why I don't take into consideration this rubbish of only 5 wins, it's a big leap.

It's actually not if we take the 14 wins plus a couple of finals from 2018 and build from there.

We learn the lessons of 2019 and don't disregard them but we build on 2018.

Top 4 is the pass mark for this season.

Anything less is a fail...

[sisso 2,588]

Have to at least win a final

[Damo 3,437]

Win one final is a pass

Win 2 is what I expect

[Diamond_Jim 12,686]

For success.. a final win

For Goodwin to remain... 8 wins

[Vipercrunch 2,847]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

...you can't play above yourself but you can certainly play below.

 

Spot on.

With a "normal" run with injuries, making finals is a pass.  Hoping for some September wins though.

[old dee 23,998]

Finishing in eighth place anything else is a  definite failure that would see the club severely hampered financially.  

[old dee 23,998]

11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

For success.. a final win

For Goodwin to remain... 8 wins

IMO DJ anything less than making the eight will be the end for him.

[Youngwilliam 381]

Better than 2018. Too many passengers in 2019 expecting the wins to continue without putting in any work. In my book if we don't play in the Granny, we have gone backwards still.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

10 wins is my pass mark. And even then, I think we'll have to work damn hard to get those 10 wins.

I agree with others that Goodwin needs 8 wins to survive. 

[Demon3 2,541]

Simply must play finals. Anything less in my opinion is a fail, and make no mistakes about it, it will be very hard to do so. There are 2 spots i reckon up for grabs.

OUT: Essendon / Geelong

IN: St Kilda / Port Adelaide / Melbourne / Sydney / Nth Melbourne

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

6 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Simply must play finals. Anything less in my opinion is a fail, and make no mistakes about it, it will be very hard to do so. There are 2 spots i reckon up for grabs.

OUT: Essendon / Geelong

IN: St Kilda / Port Adelaide / Melbourne / Sydney / Nth Melbourne

 

Add Hawthorn to the possible ins.

Can see them making top 6.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Unless we pull off a massive miracle, I think a premiership for at least this season is out of our reach.  That is always the ultimate goal but we're coming from a fair way back.  I think we have the potential within the list to push for a premiership but it won't be in 2020.

However, this isn't a rebuild like we started when Paul Roos came on board.  My expectation for this season will be finals.  I'd like to see us finish high enough to snag at least one home final and see how we go from there.

Having said that, we need our key players on the park far more often than we did last season.  It's hard to compete when so many of them had injuries or their pre-season was severely hampered and we couldn't run out games.  I never expected us to fall as far as we did, though.

So, a top six finish (5th of 6th) is something I think we can achieve.

[Demon17 5,227]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

What's your pass mark for the Dees in 2020?

What would mean a successful season for your team?

Top four? Finals? Six wins?

AFL 2020 predictions: Every club's pass mark for this season

Melbourne

Qualify for the finals

How do you bounce back after a season from hell?

Internally, Melbourne have probably set the bar higher than this, but the reality is, they won just five games last year with pretty much the same list. ( A quality journalist, instead of a hack, would have qualified that last statement by adding.."...Except that only 2 of 40 odd list players completed above 80% pre-season, and 17 surgeries impacted... " )

They should be in much better nick come round one this year and will hopefully have learned some lessons from 2019.

Having been handed a favourable draw, this season will be the year where we learn if the 2018 preliminary final appearance was the outlier or the Dees are ready to finally challenge again.

This is so lightweight its a disgrace in regards to analysis. 

[58er 6,809]

Finals with at least a win

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

I think a golf score on a Par 3 hole is the best way I can rate this:

Bogey: 9th again - Goodwin probably keeps his job

Par: Finals - first or second round exit

Birdie: Finals - 2 wins and a Prelim appearance again

Eagle - Premiership. 

 

[Demonland 73,465]

Just now, At the break of Gawn said:

I think a golf score on a Par 3 hole is the best way I can rate this:

Bogey: 9th again - Goodwin probably keeps his job

Par: Finals - first or second round exit

Birdie: Finals - 2 wins and a Prelim appearance again

Eagle - Premiership. 

 

Double Bogey? Albatross?

[grey wolf 226]

I’d like to think we can be competitive in every game this year, at least till the fifteen minute mark of every last quarter... after that we will need some match winners to stand up and get us over the line (or save us).. Oliver? Trac? TMac? Max? Gus? Weed? Kossie????

[Sir Why You Little 37,296]

If Goodwin delivers an 8-14 Season this year, he should walk. 
We must expect higher than that. He had the arm chair ride into the job, this year he must show us what he has got, even in adverse circumstances. 
no more “Be Patient Guys” he has to produce answers

When were we last in a situation where at 3/4 time we are 30 points down, but come storming home in the last to win by 10+ points. 
Goodwin needs to add flare to his game, following the process is not always the way to go. 
 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If Goodwin delivers an 8-14 Season this year, he should walk. 
We must expect higher than that. He had the arm chair ride into the job, this year he must show us what he has got, even in adverse circumstances. 
 

Agree with that. Not too many coaches get a 2 year apprenticeship with the promise of the full time gig.

He'll survive with 8 wins though. Too many years left on his contract and it would be an improvement on last year (sadly).

[Sir Why You Little 37,296]

10 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Agree with that. Not too many coaches get a 2 year apprenticeship with the promise of the full time gig.

He'll survive with 8 wins though. Too many years left on his contract and it would be an improvement on last year (sadly).

You may be right BBP, but he shouldn’t. 
8-14 is really just more of the same, going round in circles. 
8-14 tells me his idea of a game style is simply not good enough. 
14-8 means his theories are on the right track with room for improvement.