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32 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd like to see the government get their our money back.

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    40 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

    Something about glass houses and stones....we have done the same:

    https://shape.com.au/projects/casey-fields/

    https://sport.vic.gov.au/news/articles/new-designs-showcase-casey-fields-aflw-transformation

     

     

    I get where you are coming George and we may live in a glass house but don’t think we have thrown any stones. The difference being that in our AFLW team still exists and our home ground whether people like it or not is Casey. Oval 2 at Casey is the home of our Next Generation Academy (including females) so far I think we have kept our side of the bargain with the exception being playing 2 home finals at Ikon. 

    Edited by Dee Viney Intervention

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    On 21/01/2024 at 14:29, daisycutter said:

    fishermans bend development hits a snag

    FB is essentially a quasi Utopian development  canvas. Lots of U beaut ideas...at the cost of the public purse...maybe not directly but bet London to a brick all the  "constraints" will require subsudies.  I can only imagine certain Architectural wankers are salivating at the idea.

    F.B. is and always wil be about 'new social building guidelines'.  Anyone thinking a 'Elite Sporting Entity' should hold sway....sorry...

    Edited by beelzebub

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    On 22/01/2024 at 22:38, layzie said:

    I'd like to see the government get their money back.

    Like the $40+ billion they dolled out during covid to business that didn’t actually end up meeting the original requirements?? Nothing to see here……. let’s get the money back from welfare recipients instead. 

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    On 24/01/2024 at 20:57, beelzebub said:

    FB is essentially a quasi Utopian development  canvas. Lots of U beaut ideas...at the cost of the public purse...maybe not directly but bet London to a brick all the  "constraints" will require subsudies.  I can only imagine certain Architectural wankers are salivating at the idea.

    F.B. is and always wil be about 'new social building guidelines'.  Anyone thinking a 'Elite Sporting Entity' should hold sway....sorry...

    You anticipated my intervention that the failure to attract public transport infrastructure could provide a negotiating trigger. That the "quasi utopian development" could maybe benefit from an entertainment facility incorporating corporate and retail. A practical community facility that requires the infrastructure especially if supported by an AFL club attracted there with space allocated for the training grounds. Could be a mutually beneficial submission.

    You may be correct about the architectural wankers involvement, but they would have to shove aside the property and financial investors who have been encouraged over the years and are even now trying to recover their excessive outlays. I should add I have no financial interest in either area but am prepared to offer my project management and consultation experience. 

    As you and other Dlanders may enjoy, the response to me has been muted. There has been genuine interest expressed but most are content to wait for the Caulfield project to kick off. I am also not opposed to that, but just see some opportunities to play projects off against each other to negotiate a better deal and get a better outcome. To do that would require greater detail. I do thank the 3 members who have contacted me offering their direct participation. We are all very much aware of our limited knowledge and experience in such a large project but are willing to continue to investigate options further and expand our ideas.

    I incidently have had no response from the club to my questions, but am looking on that positively, that the club are preparing a considered response. I would appreciate meeting the sub committee and may suggest that as a more convenient forum to resolve some issues. 

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    Looks like the Gabba redevelopment is dead in its present form. (Costs have escalated from the original estimate of $1 billion to 2.7 billion and rising)

    Haven't heard anything about Docklands being upgraded for a few years.

    Money is tight to say the least

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-09/gabba-redevelopment-2032-olympics-venue-what-next/103444034

    Edited by Diamond_Jim

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    44 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Looks like the Gabba redevelopment is dead in its present form. (Costs have escalated from the original estimate of $1 billion to 2.7 billion and rising)

    Haven't heard anything about Docklands being upgraded for a few years.

    Money is tight to say the least

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-09/gabba-redevelopment-2032-olympics-venue-what-next/103444034

    they could have saved themselves some money on the review and just read demonland. 

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    1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Looks like the Gabba redevelopment is dead in its present form. (Costs have escalated from the original estimate of $1 billion to 2.7 billion and rising)

    How can ANYTHING cost $2.7 bil?

    Someone somewhere in construction is making an absolute killing, while governments and councils are busy trying to distinguish their elbows from their [censored].

    The Hoddle Street upgrade a few years back was delayed and its budget blew out by some $60 mil (and this was not the only delay or blowout) because someone somewhere had underestimated the amount of crushed rock required. So they had to get in an extra $60 mil worth of crushed rock.

    SIXTY MILLION

    You could build a row of luxury houses along that same length of Hoddle Street for $60 mil.

    But they needed $60 mil of crushed rock.

    SIXTY MILLION

     

    It's like developers watched "Utopia" and took notes, while govt people watched it and said "gee, maybe we need MORE sensitivity training!"

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    Totally agree Mazer R that is laughable anything referred to as infrastructure particularly if Govt is involved doubles, quadruple’s over a five year period when inflation is running at 5%, the funds are being syphoned off somehow. Where is the Project management the audits the penalties Credibility.!!

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    7 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Looks like the Gabba redevelopment is dead in its present form. (Costs have escalated from the original estimate of $1 billion to 2.7 billion and rising)

    Haven't heard anything about Docklands being upgraded for a few years.

    Money is tight to say the least

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-09/gabba-redevelopment-2032-olympics-venue-what-next/103444034

    What an obscene amount of money for a Sports Venue. 
    whilst Middle Class Families are struggling to eat and pay bills. 
    I love sports, but it is is merely entertainment

    After the Covid Fiasco, that is an obscene figure 

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    Melbourne Rebels look to be going down the gurgler. (AAMI Park occupant.) 

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby/melbourne-rebels-move-closer-to-folding-with-staff-including-the-ceo-sacked/news-story/4643f8ba6b9e7f4506390a08bf498cad

    Huge debts, no supporters, board collapsing and in administration. They have a team this season, but require a Government bailout ( $20 million in debt, no funds) to keep going next season.

    Does this give the MFC some capacity to move our administration staff over to AAMI Park if Rebels collapse?

    I think they should look at it, as any better facilities seem a way off.

    At least puts everyone associated with running the club under one roof, for the short term. The move may also help with getting Olympic Park developments, if we go down that path. 

    We would lose any association with the MCC/MCG other than game day arrangements. If we move to a home away from MCG, then that would happen anyway.

    I reckon it is a good opportunity, at the expense of the Rebels, to take over their offices.

     

     

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    45 minutes ago, kev martin said:

    I reckon it is a good opportunity, at the expense of the Rebels, to take over their offices.

    Definitely worth looking at.

    Even if Caulfield comes off it's at least 5 years until we move in

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    2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Definitely worth looking at.

    Even if Caulfield comes off it's at least 5 years until we move in

    At the very least DJ.

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    Just got hit up for the Demon Draw Raffle tickets.

    Proceeds going towards the Caulfield Facility.

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    Bit of a shame to see this thread sullied by petty political potshots.

    edit:  The posts I was referring to have now been deleted.  Thanks mod/s.

    Edited by Demonstone

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    This must be the longest we've gone on this thread without someone saying we should move to Fisherman's Bend. 

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    5 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    Is it true family day will be held at Casey this year? 

    On Sunday please read the MFC website for the info. No charge also. 

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    Caulfield Racecourse redevelopment plans mentioned in todays Herald Sun. High quality new spectator and horse stabling areas discussed, nothing about other aspects of the RC redevelopment (like MFC training & admin facilities) in this article though.

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    7 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

    Caulfield Racecourse redevelopment plans mentioned in todays Herald Sun. High quality new spectator and horse stabling areas discussed, nothing about other aspects of the RC redevelopment (like MFC training & admin facilities) in this article though.

    Another second class tennant. 
    I wouldn’t go there

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