2 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Mind you, there’s no questioning the “hell” bit. 
 

“To Hell...And Back?”

Absolutely. We haven’t returned yet, regardless of what has been done over the Summer and there are a lot of clubs who want to keep it that way. 

2 hours ago, President Dee Trump said:

Piffle. Memberships mean little to AFL clubs.

What about Sponsorships?

1 hour ago, Mel Bourne said:

Mind you, there’s no questioning the “hell” bit. 
 

“To Hell...And Back?”

Since repeating oneself seems to be acceptable in this thread, I'll repeat that I don't think the ? is necessary.

It depends on the content of the doco. As you say, no questioning the 'hell' bit, but if the doco focuses on what we are doing to try to get back, it is appropriate, though maybe "to Hell and the Road Back" would be better.

  There is no reason on the face of it to assume the title is an empty boast and that no other interpretation is possible.  I'd agree with SWYL et al if the title was "To Hell and Back to Heaven" or used Milton's two titles, but it didn't.   Anyway, a storm in a tea cup.

We do get ourselves bent out of shape about the smallest of things here at DL?

If nothing else, this thread reminds me of a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that's not even there.

13 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

We do get ourselves bent out of shape about the smallest of things here at DL?

MFCSS never dies.

7 hours ago, President Dee Trump said:

Piffle. Memberships mean little to AFL clubs.

You are wrong and have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. 

1 hour ago, Melb16 said:

You are wrong and have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. 

agreed

On 2/6/2020 at 4:20 PM, RedBlueandTrue said:

I disagree completely. In a perfect world we would have the luxury of not needing to overhype but in reality we have to do anything we can to sell as many memberships as possible. If we have another terrible season, won't have mattered whether we were quiet or loud now. Have to do everything we can to retain as much of the membership base as possible or we'll just lose more ground.

 

Well said  RBT that is how l look at it as well. However I like to say that you don't fluke a  finals  and fluke winning finals games because we have talent on our list to do well at any time.

Injury free to keys and some very good pickups has rejuvenated the list there is no reason for all of us not to feel confident.

Therefore there is a reason but to feel optimistic about 2020 and beyond.  We have  to live the dream.

So sign up if you haven't yet out there. 

18 hours ago, President Dee Trump said:

Piffle. Memberships mean little to AFL clubs.

Wrong wrong wrong 

Without the fans there is no Club really 

We are the reason for the players.

On 2/9/2020 at 10:18 AM, Fifty-5 said:

Could not agree more. It's far easier to predict outcomes after they've happened!

i see what you did there.

On 2/7/2020 at 12:07 AM, Fanatique Demon said:

I recently watched all of last year's Melbourne games again. That was painful. I came away thinking that it's going to take a lot more than we're doing or have done to turn it around. Are we the only ones who recruited a couple of players from other clubs? Or took quality young players from the draft? Other clubs have done the same or better. Sure, we should be fitter this year and hopefully have fewer injuries, but other clubs won't have stood still. I really want to believe we'll perform, but we will just have to wait and see. As for the video, why reinforce failure? Because unless we do return from hell, that's all it will be doing. 

Not even Goodwin did that......

Oh wait, that was the prelim....

On 2/9/2020 at 5:43 PM, demonstone said:

If nothing else, this thread reminds me of a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that's not even there.

Very good demonstone and very accurate. 

On 2/10/2020 at 7:52 AM, 58er said:

Wrong wrong wrong 

Without the fans there is no Club really 

We are the reason for the players.

Love it

I wonder what that oxygen thief Cornes has to say about his old mob winning the actual Premiership in February......

https://www.afl.com.au/news/372062/-look-out-we-re-coming-port-plans-premiership-party

 

4 minutes ago, HBDee said:

I wonder what that oxygen thief Cornes has to say about his old mob winning the actual Premiership in February......

https://www.afl.com.au/news/372062/-look-out-we-re-coming-port-plans-premiership-party

 

From blah, blah and back?

On 2/9/2020 at 3:53 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Absolutely. We haven’t returned yet, regardless of what has been done over the Summer and there are a lot of clubs who want to keep it that way. 

Its got nothing to do with being back. 

 

Definition of to hell and back

:informal

: through a very difficult or unpleasant situation that often lasts for a long time

She's been to hell and back since her daughter became ill.

1 minute ago, Grimes Times said:

Its got nothing to do with being back. 

 

Definition of to hell and back

:informal

: through a very difficult or unpleasant situation that often lasts for a long time

She's been to hell and back since her daughter became ill.

It does to the Media and outside world. 
just unnecessary pressure in my opinion. 
I would have called it something else. 
“Redemption” would have been my choice. 
one Word, simple and straightforward 

On 2/9/2020 at 1:35 PM, President Dee Trump said:

Agreed

"he started it"

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It does to the Media and outside world. 
just unnecessary pressure in my opinion. 
I would have called it something else. 
“Redemption” would have been my choice. 
one Word, simple and straightforward 

Isn't Redemption as 'bad' as Back?    But Grimes-Times' post shows that there are other ways of interpreting the title without even bending the dictionary defintion.  I wonder how you'd be feeling as a Port supporter?  More than a storm in a tea cup there I guess.

5 minutes ago, sue said:

Isn't Redemption as 'bad' as Back?    But Grimes-Times' post shows that there are other ways of interpreting the title without even bending the dictionary defintion.  I wonder how you'd be feeling as a Port supporter?  More than a storm in a tea cup there I guess.

I am not a Port Supporter, they can operate any way they like. 
Redemption has one meaning. “To Hell and Back” has many interpretations. That is the only reason i don’t like it

24 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am not a Port Supporter, they can operate any way they like. 
Redemption has one meaning. “To Hell and Back” has many interpretations. That is the only reason conti don’t like it

Ok we know what U think about the title get over it, only the context of the doco  matters now, just judge the rest of the doco with your professional eye, then comment. 

46 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am not a Port Supporter, they can operate any way they like. 
Redemption has one meaning. “To Hell and Back” has many interpretations. That is the only reason i don’t like it

I thought having double (or more) meanings was a common trick for attracting attention in titles.   Is the Redemption achieved or are we working on it?

2 hours ago, sue said:

I thought having double (or more) meanings was a common trick for attracting attention in titles.   Is the Redemption achieved or are we working on it?

It all depends on the season ahead and we haven’t had it yet. Get back to me in June

7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It does to the Media and outside world. 
just unnecessary pressure in my opinion. 
I would have called it something else. 
“Redemption” would have been my choice. 
one Word, simple and straightforward 

But we haven't redeemed ourselves yet? I don't really see the difference