On 13/01/2020 at 03:09, DeeSpencer said:

More like 3/4 than full seasons and the Suns weren’t known for preparing their players well.

Im concerned by how much lighter they’ve got him and how much training he was doing pre Christmas. 

After last year I would’ve limited him to only about 3/4’s of the work load in preseason. Instead it sounds like we’ve pushed him too hard before Christmas and now have to back right off. 

I don’t understand why the club hired Burgi and not you, as seriously, you are an expert on everything except maybe the premier league....

 

I’m expecting May back in 4 to 6.

  On 13/01/2020 at 12:57, DeeSpencer said:

Fair enough, I don't follow soccer.

From the NBA there's plenty of cases of teams not disclosing info. The Nets right now are in a big circus with Kyrie Irving.

https://www.amny.com/editorial/atkinson-clears-up-kyrie-irving-injury-confusion-nets-waiting-game-continues/

The NFL maintains a pretty strict protocol for who is missing practice and could miss games but teams break it all the time. Usually if they get investigated and found guilty the punishment doesn't bother them.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2870513-bills-reporting-of-jerry-hughes-wrist-injury-being-investigated-by-nfl

We've spent more time talking about this than warranted already. But I wonder what the club thinks... They surely know that we have Demonland reporters at training. (I always appreciate yours BTW)

Do they just hold off telling us until they know exactly what the problem is.. knowing that we are aware that they aren't training? Or is it just a lack of staff in the media dept during the off season? (I'm not expecting a reply to this question)

  On 13/01/2020 at 16:33, BAMF said:

We've spent more time talking about this than warranted already. But I wonder what the club thinks... They surely know that we have Demonland reporters at training. (I always appreciate yours BTW)

Do they just hold off telling us until they know exactly what the problem is.. knowing that we are aware that they aren't training? Or is it just a lack of staff in the media dept during the off season? (I'm not expecting a reply to this question)

Or maybe we are pretty low on their priority list.  I doubt that most supporters and even members look at the MFC news much during the off-season and certainly wouldn't even know that X has missed training Y times.  So they wouldn't be waking up at 3am worrying about it.  Only the most rabid of us are on Demonland.  I'd be interested to know how many active readers/posters we have compared to total supportr base?

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by sue

  On 13/01/2020 at 01:04, old dee said:

My gut tells me not to expect much from May. Looks like the classic " we bought a crock" 

Burgess told Melbourne Media. “Maysie had a cyst pressing on the nerve of his knee which required some treatment. His pre-season has been outstanding so far and this won’t affect his program going forward."

I cannot agree with this.

I reckon this guy will be one of our most important players for quite a few years going forward. He's very good player - and I suspect every MFC defender stands taller knowing May is lurking around near them.

 

  On 13/01/2020 at 01:54, Lord Travis said:

Heard he has a small back issue and the club is being conservative as to not exacerbate it and make it a long term injury. Might just be a slightly slower build up for him heading into the season proper. No alarm bells yet.

You obviously heard wrong

  On 13/01/2020 at 13:53, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I don’t understand why the club hired Burgi and not you, as seriously, you are an expert on everything except maybe the premier league....

 

I wouldn't exclude the premier league either.

  On 13/01/2020 at 23:34, Ron Burgundy said:

Burgess told Melbourne Media. “Maysie had a cyst pressing on the nerve of his knee which required some treatment. His pre-season has been outstanding so far and this won’t affect his program going forward."

I cannot agree with this.

I reckon this guy will be one of our most important players for quite a few years going forward. He's very good player - and I suspect every MFC defender stands taller knowing May is lurking around near them.

 

Hope you are right RB but so far return has been poor. His time at the Dees has so far been injury plagued. 

  On 13/01/2020 at 22:59, sue said:

Or maybe we are pretty low on their priority list.  I doubt that most supporters and even members look at the MFC news much during the off-season and certainly wouldn't even know that X has missed training Y times.  So they wouldn't be waking up at 3am worrying about it.  Only the most rabid of us are on Demonland.  I'd be interested to know how many active readers/posters we have compared to total supportr base?

Yes. You are 100% correct. I'm probably bitching because its been so slow on the news front recently and my need for a fix hasn't been met.

  On 13/01/2020 at 22:59, sue said:

Or maybe we are pretty low on their priority list.  I doubt that most supporters and even members look at the MFC news much during the off-season and certainly wouldn't even know that X has missed training Y times.  So they wouldn't be waking up at 3am worrying about it.  Only the most rabid of us are on Demonland.  I'd be interested to know how many active readers/posters we have compared to total supportr base?

Agree 50,000 members vs some small proportion of fanatics on here.  It's good that the Club provided the update.

  On 14/01/2020 at 00:25, old dee said:

Hope you are right RB but so far return has been poor. His time at the Dees has so far been injury plagued. 

No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think May's injury history was relatively sound prior to last year.

I was absolutely stoked when we landed him. Even though his season last year was underwhelming, I remain super positive about this guy and the contribution he will make to the MFC going forward - he's just the sort of player we need marshalling the defence.

 

  On 14/01/2020 at 01:18, Ron Burgundy said:

No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think May's injury history was relatively sound prior to last year.

I was absolutely stoked when we landed him. Even though his season last year was underwhelming, I remain super positive about this guy and the contribution he will make to the MFC going forward - he's just the sort of player we need marshalling the defence.

 

Love your confidence RB. Sadly I am less so.

  On 14/01/2020 at 00:47, Fifty-5 said:

Agree 50,000 members vs some small proportion of fanatics on here.  It's good that the Club provided the update.

Agree. Particularly given how poor they were during last season at reporting injuries (when most fans are interested). Hopefully this reflects a shift.

  On 14/01/2020 at 02:16, binman said:

Agree. Particularly given how poor they were during last season at reporting injuries (when most fans are interested). Hopefully this reflects a shift.

It takes a while to change the habits created over decades binman when you want to I am not confident the MFC / AFl are at that point yet.

So the pessimistic sky is falling brigade,  will refrain from thinking the worst and jumping to conclusions in the future based on this

 

Yeah good luck with that, where would Demonland be without its veil of negativity 

  On 14/01/2020 at 02:21, old dee said:

It takes a while to change the habits created over decades binman when you want to I am not confident the MFC / AFl are at that point yet.

The only thing I'm confident of is that you have no confidence in anything MFC.

Yeah I know you've been following them for 250 years and have every reason to be lacking in confidence, but let's wait till the season starts before we call this season a failure.

  On 14/01/2020 at 04:39, Pennant St Dee said:

Yeah good luck with that, where would Demonland be without its veil of negativity 

I get the feeling that some rub their hands with glee at the first sign of anything going awry as it validates their pessimism.

Some even keep a jar of glee handy for that very purpose,  I'm told.

  On 14/01/2020 at 04:57, Dante said:

The only thing I'm confident of is that you have no confidence in anything MFC.

Yeah I know you've been following them for 250 years and have every reason to be lacking in confidence, but let's wait till the season starts before we call this season a failure.

I just don't have confidence that he will go the distance this year Dante. Called it whatever rocks your boat. 

Even after a poor season, I am always optimistic going into the pre season.   I was last year until the practice match against the Pies then I started to question how we were travelling.   It became how deep,   not what are we standing in !  Learnt stuff all in 50 years.

Partly to blame last year was the reporting from the watchers that all was good or would be good. And after the 2018 heroics I was a sucker for the making.   But a lot of people thought that way.

This year the watchers have been more diligent in saying what they observed, both good and not so good, and the reporting from them this year has been nothing short of excellent, Good and bad highlighted, but the numbers training and questioning of why some players are not training means those that are there will have had a full preseason. 

And I think May will be to the back line what AVB could be to the forwards. I dont usually waste coin having a bet on Melb but I think I will this year.    So all is good,   until the first preseason games,   Who do we play first ??  can hardly wait  !!

 

Go Dees    good luck to all

Steven May is requiring further surgery. Fluid build-up. Another week off the track. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/371681

Edited February 10, 20205 yr by Mel Bourne

  On 10/02/2020 at 07:27, Mel Bourne said:

Steven May is requiring further surgery. Fluid build-up. Another week off the track. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/371681

  On 10/02/2020 at 07:27, Mel Bourne said:

Steven May is requiring further surgery. Fluid build-up. Another week off the track. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/371681

Infection of the wound?

At least he did the pre Christmas sessions, which should give him a good base.

  On 10/02/2020 at 07:51, Moonshadow said:

Infection of the wound?

At least he did the pre Christmas sessions, which should give him a good base.

Not sure if it’s an infection (fluid build-up can often not involve an infection), but the club seem to be playing it down, regardless. Mind you, they kinda have to. 

Edited February 10, 20205 yr by Mel Bourne

  On 10/02/2020 at 08:07, Mel Bourne said:

Not sure if it’s an infection (fluid build-up can often not involve an infection), but the club seem to be playing it down regardless. Mind you, they kinda have to. 

Could be, though Mahoney said:

"Unfortunately, Steven had some fluid build-up within the existing wound last week which was causing him some discomfort,"

But I'm no medico, so could also be jock itch if I was in charge!

  On 10/02/2020 at 08:10, Moonshadow said:

Could be, though Mahoney said:

"Unfortunately, Steven had some fluid build-up within the existing wound last week which was causing him some discomfort,"

But I'm no medico, so could also be jock itch if I was in charge!

or cor******us ?