Demonland 74,467 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 No surprises here unless last year was the surprise. CHAMPION DATA’S 2020 AFL LIST RANKINGS Richmond Western Bulldogs Collingwood GWS Giants West Coast North Melbourne Geelong Port Adelaide Essendon Hawthorn Brisbane Melbourne St Kilda Sydney Adelaide Carlton Fremantle Gold Coast MELBOURNE Champion Data overall list rating: 12th List rating for 2019: 1st Player breakdown - Elite: 1 - Above average: 6 - Average: 12 - Below average: 6 - Poor: 4 CHAMPION DATA’S 2019 AFL LIST RANKINGS Melbourne Adelaide Richmond Essendon Collingwood Geelong GWS Giants North Melbourne Hawthorn Brisbane West Coast Port Adelaide Sydney St Kilda Western Bulldogs Carlton Fremantle Gold Coast Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 North Melbourne have a better list than us, champion data lists are rediculous, don’t take enough variables into account Quote
DubDee 26,711 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 North are 6 places above Brisbane I think that sums up how useful this list is. 2 Quote
sue 9,277 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bates Mate said: I see this as a positive I assume you mean judging on their past rankings. I agree. Quote
Demonland 74,467 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Posted December 4, 2019 The article is also factually incorrect as it states "Melbourne was the big slider in the rankings year on year". Adelaide actually slid 13 spots from 2 to 15 and we only slid 11 spots from 1 to 12. 3 1 Quote
Demonland 74,467 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bates Mate said: I see this as a positive We only need to worry if Kane Cornes predicts us to win the flag. 1 2 1 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,778 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 For those who follow these things which individual MFC players went up in the rankings during 2019. Thanks Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,326 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Demonland said: We only need to worry if Kane Cornes predicts us to win the flag. We don’t need to worry DL, Cornes has named the 6 teams that can win it and we are not one of them. 2 Quote
jnrmac 20,385 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 And C Data had the Bulldogs at 15 in 2019, 2nd this year. Quote
Demonland 74,467 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said: We don’t need to worry DL, Cornes has named the 6 teams that can win it and we are not one of them. 2 Quote
Redleg 42,182 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 Data shmata. Win games, rest is fodder. 1 Quote
rjay 25,427 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 We have a better list this year but have slid back to 12. Intereresting... I guess it all makes for a good talking point but as with last years rankings it has no actual relevance into how the season will pan out. Quote
Bates Mate 4,520 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, sue said: I assume you mean judging on their past rankings. I agree. Yes , champion data and the Media's treating the stats/rankings they come up with as gospel annoys the crap out of me Quote
ding 5,126 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 If we only finish 12th next year i will eat my hat. Put that list right next to the one showing games lost to injury and see how it looks. Piffle. 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) "Melbourne was the big slider in the rankings year on year. The Demons were rated the best list before last season but are 12th entering 2020." "The rankings are based purely on individual talent and are not linked to overall team statistics or system. Champion Data’s new ratings formula this year takes into account individual players’ output, game time, what position they play, what they contribute to each position, durability and how likely they are to be selected." Champion Data's 2020 Rankings Edited December 5, 2019 by Lord Nev 1 Quote
ben russell 764 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings. 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, ben russell said: Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings. The "durability" and "how likely they are to be selected" would be massive factors for us after last year's horrendous injury run and how many changes we made week on week IMO. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,692 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ben russell said: Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings. Garlett and Lewis probably had great statistical value last year despite being completely finished. I wonder how they’ve valued Jones. The good news is apart from Gawn who surely can’t go up another level again we have so many players who can improve. Not sure the Dogs are 2nd but I think they belong in the top 5. After that the gap between 6-17 can’t be all that wide. North won 10 games, Freo won 9. Unless Hill and Langdon are now Judd and Ablett the gap between the lists can’t be all that big. Edited December 5, 2019 by DeeSpencer Quote
ben russell 764 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 North at number 6 gave me a chuckle. Bulldogs at number 2 almost as outrageous. Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I will enjoy the fireworks if Carlton finishes 3rd last again. Quote
Nelo 813 Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Wish we had the bulldogs list. Reckon they will win a couple of flags over the next 5 years. 1 1 Quote
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