Have a hard look at yourself Demonlanders

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

12 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

very hard to take any positives out of 2019.  Still think the club is the least proactive vic club in the afl. 

Gawn, Fritsch, getting Dunkley, showing Preuss what is required and him noticing, mid and end of season reviews that have freshened up the place, acquiring Burgess and Richardson, poor year financially but not adding to our debt because of foresight by Board and CEO, Lewis on coaching panel, only minimal end of season operations, astute trading of players and picks    and we still have a month and bit to go

[Ethan Tremblay 28,615]

Abort thread. Abort thread. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,063]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

but not adding to our debt because of foresight by Board

aaaaah

less money in the bank

loss =cash out

[Superunknown 3,530]

On 11/21/2019 at 8:18 PM, Stretch Johnson said:

A problem with Demonland (and society) is that often people think down binary lines.  The OP is a classic example.

You are either a sycophant or as the OP puts it a "backstabber".

It is possible that by applying critical thinking to matters of the MFC you can appreciate some of the good things about the club and recognise the not so.

 

Jesus Christ stop being so sensible

youre such a sensible word-speaker it makes my brains kersplode

Edited November 22, 2019 by Superunknown

[JakovichScissorKick 771]

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

What a great thread

Hypocrisy everywhere

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself

This is the truth of a public internet forum

Are you ok man?  

[dazzledavey36 49,504]

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

What a great thread

Hypocrisy everywhere

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself

This is the truth of a public internet forum

What are you doing on here then? Dead set honest question? If you are so concerned with the dribble you just spat out, then surely for your own sake you'd stop posting on an online forum. 

Everything you just wrote down is exactly what you do on here. You do know that right?

[Sir Why You Little 35,073]

22 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What are you doing on here then? Dead set honest question? If you are so concerned with the dribble you just spat out, then surely for your own sake you'd stop posting on an online forum. 

Everything you just wrote down is exactly what you do on here. You do know that right?

Absolutely word for word. !!

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Absolutely word for word. !!

Incapable of forming a long sentence on your own without whining?

@dazzledavey36 to try and provide some balance to the large amount of bollocks that is posted by the so called experts on hear

At least the 'persom' who ridiculed Omac at the forum, had the kahunas to do it in public, no matter how ridiculous it was

Besides which I can handle the rubbish, sometimes it is like having a battle of wits with unarmed persons though

You need to read some of your posts, the level of immaturity in the name calling is glaring

[Sir Why You Little 35,073]

8 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Incapable of forming a long sentence on your own without whining?

@dazzledavey36 to try and provide some balance to the large amount of bollocks that is posted by the so called experts on hear

At least the 'persom' who ridiculed Omac at the forum, had the kahunas to do it in public, no matter how ridiculous it was

Besides which I can handle the rubbish, sometimes it is like having a battle of wits with unarmed persons though

You need to read some of your posts, the level of immaturity in the name calling is glaring

Oh i wrote something similar to what Dazzle said earlier, wondering why you contribute here, considering how much you despise what most write. 
but it was removed by the Powers. 
 

[dazzledavey36 49,504]

39 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Incapable of forming a long sentence on your own without whining?

@dazzledavey36 to try and provide some balance to the large amount of bollocks that is posted by the so called experts on hear

At least the 'persom' who ridiculed Omac at the forum, had the kahunas to do it in public, no matter how ridiculous it was

Besides which I can handle the rubbish, sometimes it is like having a battle of wits with unarmed persons though

You need to read some of your posts, the level of immaturity in the name calling is glaring

Yeah cool.

Didn't answer my question but anywho..

Edited November 22, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[Demon trucker 1,788]

6 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

very hard to take any positives out of 2019.  Still think the club is the least proactive vic club in the afl. 

I totally disagree 100%. The positive out of 2019 was that it was so bad, the best teams come out of a really bad year and dominate the competition for years, example cats after 2006, Richmond after 2016. Bring on 2020 big year coming up. 

[Chook 14,616]

5 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

I totally disagree 100%. The positive out of 2019 was that it was so bad, the best teams come out of a really bad year and dominate the competition for years, example cats after 2006, Richmond after 2016. Bring on 2020 big year coming up. 

The positive is there is no way any sane organisation could ever try to hide from a year as bad as Melbourne had in 2019.
The negative is there is no way Melbourne could ever be thought of as a sane organisation, no matter the year.

[McQueen 17,864]

Why did I waste my time?

 

Edited November 22, 2019 by McQueen

[JakovichScissorKick 771]

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I am seriously getting sick to death of this. 
Apart from increasingly vacant of information training reports, @Satyriconhome adds little other value to these boards in my view.


 

I just assumed @Satyriconhome  was a parody account?    

[dworship 3,342]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What are you doing on here then? Dead set honest question? If you are so concerned with the dribble you just spat out, then surely for your own sake you'd stop posting on an online forum. 

Everything you just wrote down is exactly what you do on here. You do know that right?

Ok, you got me, for you dazzle ( small d) and that great intellectual SWYL, lets go through this shall we ( that's a statement not a question).

You have both missed the sentiment of this thread haven't you? Oh, the irony!

"What a great thread" Well the intent was admirable, but then it got highjacked by exactly the people it was (I believe) supposed too hold a mirror up to ie go have along hard look at yourselves.

"Hypocrisy" everywhere. Well that's accurate is it not? Oh, I get it some of you don't understand the word.                                                  Definition; "a situation in which someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time". I don't think that fits Saty does it? He has been boringly consistent in his support for the Club even while occasionally asking some tough questions of it in a respectful manner.  Conversely, look up the word support or supporter definition and I see a  number of people here who are not supporting the Club/Players but are active in voicing an opinion that is derogatory, abusive and disrespectful. Tell me where does that "hypocrisy" finger really point.

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks. Sorry Saty you can express an opinion just watch out for the supporters who don't like scooter riding Poms with beards. By the way I do have a beard (not as resplendent as Saty's)

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard. See above, ...... I do think small and minority is an over use of the same descriptor and in voicing your opinion Saty I would hope you stick to annoying only one group at a time. I'm starting to worry I may be targeted next. When will this Stop. (I'm a an older, white, heterosexual male but not a Pom, but I do have an opinion )

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact. Don't think I've ever seen Saty post a unfounded rumour, I've seen him post some things based on what he has been told and occasionally that has been incorrect. At least that has been based on something. I've seen many posts on here that are opinion based on the posters feelings/intuition and lack any connection to facts

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody. What can I say, this is so true of lot's of posters on here ... one of you is Ian aren't you!  Ok, Saty is guilty of this sometimes as well.

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.                            This is a big one, you are really trying to point the finger at Saty for this one? Come on get serious, if your not Ian you must be his brother.

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself. Now I don't know Saty well enough to say I've seen him laugh at himself but I think I've seen him come close. As for the rest of us I can say I have the ability to laugh at myself and will no doubt, when I read my own post tomorrow. Some of the people here will likewise remain humourless and probably clueless.

This is the truth of a public internet forum. Is he wrong?

For those of you who have difficulty understanding some of the bigger words I've used here, please use the internet in the first instance but feel free to PM me for interpretation of any nuance.

 

[Demons1858 1,663]

demonlanders can rightly look at positives to come out of the mid season review with lots of what looks like positive changes: Richo, Burgess, Langdon, players genuinely coming back in good nick is the biggest one for me.

likewise our most recent recollections are of a poor 2019 season where bad luck through injury was exaserbated by poor performances by coaches, fitness staff, and players

so l think its ok to be positive or negative in posts. perhaps we just need to play the ball a little more in debate and avoid subtle and not so subtle jabs at each other in the process. l don't like posts defending the club and players blindly (eg l trust the club are making the right decisions or coming across as a spokesperson for the club) but also don't like overly personal attacks on players (eg omac) and the club when we know they are trying their best but out of form, returning from injury or trying their best to reach afl standard which few of us do

 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Demons1858

[Pates 9,541]

I think we’ve had a (thus far) good off-season; we’ve addressed deficiencies, we’ve re-structured the FD, we’ve managed to get some very highly regarded health/fitness people, and most of the players we chased ended up at the club. 

That said 2019 was an atrocious year in so many ways, it revealed some issues we had tactically, and exposed a real lack of depth. As always when it rains it pours and we had a number of other issues throughout the year that brought back the veil of negativity that Roos used to speak about. 

I can understand people’s hesitation to be positive, certain players have to regain some serious form for us to be back in the 8 and beyond. It took us so long to get back to the finals and we crashed and burned big time, I think it’s easier for some to expect to fail. 

[Demon trucker 1,788]

Yeah baby bring it on every thing is tops man, be positive even if the trucks are 30000 over service and all the tradies are owned over $100000 in work done to keep place going, and the maintenance guy hasn't  been paid for a month. Where work is promised but not delivered, and the boss begs the workers to stay because good times are around the corner, but everyone is slowly leaving one by one.

[Sideshow Bob 2,165]

4 pages in and no one has blamed the true culprit here.... Jack bloody Watts

it's his fault and we all know it

 

[Chelly 754]

Two important questions for me -

1. Who is the dude from the Dolphins?

2. Is it the Frankston Dolphins or the Miami Dolphins?

[daisycutter 28,704]

22 hours ago, old dee said:

Very important maintaining Sanity Sue. After all it is only a game isn't it?

"more than a game", od

[daisycutter 28,704]

may i suggest pistols at 30 paces?

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

Dear me. Here we see the dangerous effects caused by long term MFC supporting. Even short term support can harm. Just say no.

[Sir Why You Little 35,073]

9 hours ago, dworship said:

Ok, you got me, for you dazzle ( small d) and that great intellectual SWYL, lets go through this shall we ( that's a statement not a question).

You have both missed the sentiment of this thread haven't you? Oh, the irony!

"What a great thread" Well the intent was admirable, but then it got highjacked by exactly the people it was (I believe) supposed too hold a mirror up to ie go have along hard look at yourselves.

"Hypocrisy" everywhere. Well that's accurate is it not? Oh, I get it some of you don't understand the word.                                                  Definition; "a situation in which someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time". I don't think that fits Saty does it? He has been boringly consistent in his support for the Club even while occasionally asking some tough questions of it in a respectful manner.  Conversely, look up the word support or supporter definition and I see a  number of people here who are not supporting the Club/Players but are active in voicing an opinion that is derogatory, abusive and disrespectful. Tell me where does that "hypocrisy" finger really point.

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks. Sorry Saty you can express an opinion just watch out for the supporters who don't like scooter riding Poms with beards. By the way I do have a beard (not as resplendent as Saty's)

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard. See above, ...... I do think small and minority is an over use of the same descriptor and in voicing your opinion Saty I would hope you stick to annoying only one group at a time. I'm starting to worry I may be targeted next. When will this Stop. (I'm a an older, white, heterosexual male but not a Pom, but I do have an opinion )

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact. Don't think I've ever seen Saty post a unfounded rumour, I've seen him post some things based on what he has been told and occasionally that has been incorrect. At least that has been based on something. I've seen many posts on here that are opinion based on the posters feelings/intuition and lack any connection to facts

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody. What can I say, this is so true of lot's of posters on here ... one of you is Ian aren't you!  Ok, Saty is guilty of this sometimes as well.

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.                            This is a big one, you are really trying to point the finger at Saty for this one? Come on get serious, if your not Ian you must be his brother.

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself. Now I don't know Saty well enough to say I've seen him laugh at himself but I think I've seen him come close. As for the rest of us I can say I have the ability to laugh at myself and will no doubt, when I read my own post tomorrow. Some of the people here will likewise remain humourless and probably clueless.

This is the truth of a public internet forum. Is he wrong?

For those of you who have difficulty understanding some of the bigger words I've used here, please use the internet in the first instance but feel free to PM me for interpretation of any nuance.

 

No i haven’t missed the point at all of what Satyr said. That is what i was replying to

What you have written above is your opinion on the above post

Satyr loves to put the boot ? in and to be righteous at the same time

When he points this at me i return serve. 

[Demonstone 19,762]

SWYL, I simply cannot fathom why you don't just put Saty on 'ignore' if he upsets you so much.

That way, you don't have to read what he has to say and we don't have to suffer your vitriolic responses.