If he’s a delisted free agent, can we sign him to our rookie list? He’d be perfect rookie list material to prove himself and earn his way back.

If he's serious about reuniting his AFL career, it would be a good test of our player welfare abilities. 

He's hired a personal trainer and is apparently very fit. Won't be his body that stops him getting on a list.

Do the DD and let's get him!

So apart from a bit of ‘charlie’ what else are the personal issues here?

 

38 minutes ago, McQueen said:

So apart from a bit of ‘charlie’ what else are the personal issues here?

 

@dazzledavey36 has shed some light on his character before. Can't recall which thread

On 9/17/2019 at 8:28 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

As does everyone. But I would also bet that Clarrie is far more smarter (which he is) then Murray in the upstairs department 

Oliver's mates in Shepp are a lot different crowd to the ones Murray hangs out with up here. Only just 3 weeks ago did one get done for doing a break in and around local businesses and was found with a bag of meth at his disposal.

 

His destiny is way way west....????

I don't know much about him or if he passes the NDH test.  But we reportedly had some interest in him a few weeks ago so I assume he passes (or perhaps he didn't pass so we lost interest).

He is still available as a Delisted Free Agent and we have the list spots.

Or we can get him as a rookie in the supplementary draft that goes from Dec-Mar.

Edited October 17, 20196 yr by Lucifer's Hero

 

He’s looking super-fit. I’m only suspicious because the Pies delisted him not too long before his suspension was due to expire. 

if he is available take him. this guy will be hungry to play and get back to AFL football. We need players hungry to play, not just feeling they are safe because our list is thin.  He now knows what the downside of his bad behavior he is very unlikely to do it again.

As much as one can ever tell from a newspaper article, he does seem to have "learned his lesson" and be full of remorse.

As others have said, his hunger could (if genuine and ongoing) lift him to greater heights.

Low cost maybe worth at least a psychoanalysis?

It’s interesting hearing the conversations about Murray and Bennell citing the idea of no bad influences at the club. Fact is that these guys are in this situation for a reason, otherwise they’d already be on a list. 

At some stage a club needs to take on the responsibility of giving them another chance and I would imagine both Murray and Bennell will be hungry for the opportunity.

I would be up for our club giving one of them that shot. 

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s looking super-fit. I’m only suspicious because the Pies delisted him not too long before his suspension was due to expire. 

Maybe it's as simple as they have his role covered.

Don't know, Ethan.

I do know that he and Bennell have deep issues beyond fitness that are not easily overcome, issues that we don't know enough about, that the club will be weighing up and looking for a match with whst we have. If we draft Young do we need Murray? Is Bennell worth putting through a preseason before selection when Geelong or other clubs might grab him as a DFA?

Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, we leave these decisions up to the club 

On 10/12/2019 at 8:33 AM, Moonshadow said:

If he's serious about reuniting his AFL career, it would be a good test of our player welfare abilities. 

He's hired a personal trainer and is apparently very fit. Won't be his body that stops him getting on a list.

Do the DD and let's get him!

Chuck him on the MFC Basics Card to make sure he doesn't spend his money on gambling, booze or drugs you say? ?

Edited October 25, 20196 yr by John Demonic

MFC just has to show a bit of sack on this fella.

I think we should have a go. You’d think he has leaned his lesson now. I thought he showed some really good signs at Collingwood. 

The question is how do you reconcile bringing the elite of young footballers into the club at the same time as you’re also introducing a player who has been outed from the game for drug use? You would have to be sure that such player is now clean and can send the right message to others at the club.

4 minutes ago, Pink Freud said:

The question is how do you reconcile bringing the elite of young footballers into the club at the same time as you’re also introducing a player who has been outed from the game for drug use? You would have to be sure that such player is now clean and can send the right message to others at the club.

so we dont play Jake any more?

15 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Chuck him on the MFC Basics Card to make sure he doesn't spend his money on gambling, booze or drugs you say? ?

That's effectively what Collingwood did with Stephenson when they drafted him. His gambling issues were well known, so they drip fed him just enough for day to day expenses and kept an eye on his spending habits.

 

Is there anything to suggest that he’s on Melbourne’s radar?

Heard a rumour before trade week that we were one of a few clubs "interested", but haven't heard anything since

He played some average footy.  Pace ok.
Not a great kick so under the Frost principle shown by Goody, wtf would we be looking at Murray. 

11 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

He played some average footy.  Pace ok.
Not a great kick so under the Frost principle shown by Goody, wtf would we be looking at Murray. 

I don't know why so many have so much difficulty "getting it".  Frost was traded because we had a surplus in his position, he was out of contract and he was worth something.  And with what we got for Frost we could spend on what we needed - Langdon.

Trading Frost wasn't us saying Frost was no good, he was traded for something valuable because he was good.  It's not hard. Have another go at understanding it.

9 hours ago, Pink Freud said:

The question is how do you reconcile bringing the elite of young footballers into the club at the same time as you’re also introducing a player who has been outed from the game for drug use? You would have to be sure that such player is now clean and can send the right message to others at the club.

What about our coach?

1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I don't know why so many have so much difficulty "getting it".  Frost was traded because we had a surplus in his position, he was out of contract and he was worth something.  And with what we got for Frost we could spend on what we needed - Langdon.

Trading Frost wasn't us saying Frost was no good, he was traded for something valuable because he was good.  It's not hard. Have another go at understanding it.

So the hundreds of posters here are all clowns.  They reckon it was because Goody was not prepared to see Frost-ball with erratic disposal. I’ll let them know.  Anywhere BB comments on Sam Murray in your opinion.  Put up or ... (you know the rest)