Interesting article in the HUN today about Richmond. They are again starting the year with virtually a full list.

How the hell do they do it?

The steak knifes part of the May trade is certainly a list clogger of the highest order....think it might be time for everyones sake/health if he calls time on the career.

 

 

 

 

  On 14/02/2020 at 00:37, Dee Watcher said:

The steak knifes part of the May trade is certainly a list clogger of the highest order....think it might be time for everyones sake/health if he calls time on the career.

 

 

 

 

The Push should become the Shove... for his sake!

Regardless of whether or not we persevere, shouldn't he at least be on the LTI list? Would that allow us to pick up a player in preseason as cover?

A real shame for the kid, I wonder why it seems players with concussion issues attract even more head knocks like there's a target on their skulls? Pure bad luck or something else....

  On 14/02/2020 at 00:37, Dee Watcher said:

The steak knifes part of the May trade is certainly a list clogger of the highest order....think it might be time for everyones sake/health if he calls time on the career.

 

 

 

 

Maybe that should be decided by KK and the Doctors not us.

Even so surely as mention he goes on the LIT so we can get in a player who might help us this season.

 

 

  On 14/02/2020 at 02:15, Redleg said:

Maybe that should be decided by KK and the Doctors not us.

Agree 100%

We paid pratically nothing for KK trade wise and the MFC knew what they were potentially up against when we signed him up.  If KK had have shrugged off these concussion issues, then everyone here would be doing cart wheels.

Just because the punt we took hasn't paid off, then that doesn't mean the MFC should drop KK like a hot spud.  I think it's important that the club maintains support and treats injured players in a respectful manner, as they appear to be doing and personally, I that also extends to us as supporters.

Anyone here see how the Tigers train, and  that they have a near full list to choose from, have something to do with being injury free?

Or is it that they have actually two carefully managed lists of players?  For two separate parts of the season?

 

If KK was in this position last year we would be looking to add an additional player through the PS supplementary or mid season draft.

This year while we have 13 on the sidelines THIS week, that number only includes 3 or 4 who would ordinarily be in the first 22 and are expected to be back fully fit within 2 weeks or so.

While I hold no great hopes for KK given he hasn't recovered ( not just played) for nearly 12 months, it is a calculated gamble to keep him on the list...any selection to replace him would be unlikely to get a game this year, so why do it?  It is not like last year where Dunkley was slotted in to fill the huge number of gaps we had, and finished playing 5 games.

Similar story to Bennell,  if he comes good fantastic, if they don't then we have 2 gaps in the EOY draft already.

Edited February 14, 20205 yr by george_on_the_outer

Said back in Dec it wasnt looking good for the lad...sad for him we are at this juncture

  On 13/02/2020 at 23:59, old dee said:

Interesting article in the HUN today about Richmond. They are again starting the year with virtually a full list.

How the hell do they do it?

They don't actually train...just to avoid injury mind you...

  On 14/02/2020 at 03:04, willmoy said:

Anyone here see how the Tigers train, and  that they have a near full list to choose from, have something to do with being injury free?

Or is it that they have actually two carefully managed lists of players?  For two separate parts of the season?

 

They pick good players who are physically and psychologically strong.

  On 14/02/2020 at 07:00, President Dee Trump said:

They pick good players who are physically and psychologically strong.

Luck over the last few years is the reason why and no other, the tide will turn against like it does at all sporting clubs.

  On 14/02/2020 at 07:42, drysdale demon said:

Luck over the last few years is the reason why and no other, the tide will turn against like it does at all sporting clubs.

I don't think the tide is returning at Melbourne it ran out a decade ago and has yet to return.

  On 14/02/2020 at 08:29, old dee said:

I don't think the tide is returning at Melbourne it ran out a decade ago and has yet to return.

That wasn't due to solely to injuries which we are talking about at the moment, also Richmond went thru a period of crap also in the not too distant past, people on this site need to get over the woe is me type of attitude.

We will nearly have our best 22 when we start the year. All other players required have a good base. We just dont hear much about other clubs injuries yet as they probably didnt hear about our bad pre-season last year. hell, neither did I.

I personally suspect without knowing stats, that most bad injuries happen late in the 2nd half of the year or in pre-season. Although we have niggles (according to the club, which cant be trusted to say anything illuminating except propa-gander in this situation), we will go in on-fire. Buy memberships!

I know the Blues and Dons have critical injuries and it sounds like the eagles have a couple of major players that were unable to finish the pre-season. Ben Brown is injured but because of the pay wall I couldnt see too much. KK and Bennell dont worry me now. Im putting on my rose-coloured glasses. I have taken up the 15-1 for the Dees to make the Grand final. And thats a bad omen.

 

There’s no reason to put him on the LT injury list until we have someone we’d like to place onto the main squad instead. 

Its bloody frustrating when you have a club like Richmond who just won the premiership continue to have the mostly blessed run of injuries that they’ve had for a while. Send some luck our way footy gods!!!! ?

agree to keep supporting this young bloke.

he must be in a bad place but should be under no pressure to get back. Keep working on his own mental capability and the light fitness work to keep in good shape 

only if he and the doctors make the call to stop, then we can look to the top up process. 

Four-time premiership Hawk Lewis questioned Kolodjashnij’s future in the game due to the impact on his quality of life.

“Football, I would hope, is so far from his mind. He had days where he couldn’t be exposed to sunlight,” Lewis told SEN on Monday morning.

“If that was me, I would be making a call on my footballing future if I was suffering those types of symptoms.

“I haven’t been exposed to anyone like that. When you see it day to day and you see that he is a really good guy and a happy guy, and you see the emotions that he goes through during the day – he isn’t able to do what he loves doing and he has to be home all the time because he can’t be exposed to light – that’s when it hits you. Is the game worth that?”

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Lewis involved in a coaching capacity at the club. I understand him giving the world an idea of what KK is going through but surely he shouldn’t be publicly saying anything about his future. 

As for KK, I can’t see him stepping out onto a footy field again, obviously we leave it to the doctors and experts to make their decision but jeez even if he recovers from the current symptoms surely the damage done leaves it open for another big hit being one that leaves him with permanent issues. 

This club is as weak as [censored] sometimes. I'm absolutely for looking after Kade and his long term health, even though the club didn't do its homework and gave a three year contract to a bloke with significant health issues. But that clearly is not going to be as an AFL footballer, and we need to do what is right for the club.

Let Kade get himself right so that he can live a normal life, give him all the support he needs, but get him off the list and find someone who can help the club in 2020.

KK was at the Arden St game, wearing sunnies but so were most of his team mates. He wandered over to Harmes, ANB and a few others and shook hands like he was just meeting them. Asked Harmes how half back was going. I got the sense he hasn’t been at the club in weeks if not months. 

  On 02/03/2020 at 02:01, poita said:

This club is as weak as [censored] sometimes. I'm absolutely for looking after Kade and his long term health, even though the club didn't do its homework and gave a three year contract to a bloke with significant health issues. But that clearly is not going to be as an AFL footballer, and we need to do what is right for the club.

Let Kade get himself right so that he can live a normal life, give him all the support he needs, but get him off the list and find someone who can help the club in 2020.

Apart from caring about his health there’s probably injury payments and salary cap consequences that make these things difficult. 

We added Lockhart and Dunkley last year and Richo was at the Saints when they put McCartin on the long term list. I question Josh Mahoney as much as most on here but give the guy some credit, they’ll be considering the best options. 

  On 02/03/2020 at 02:01, poita said:

This club is as weak as [censored] sometimes. I'm absolutely for looking after Kade and his long term health, even though the club didn't do its homework and gave a three year contract to a bloke with significant health issues. But that clearly is not going to be as an AFL footballer, and we need to do what is right for the club.

Let Kade get himself right so that he can live a normal life, give him all the support he needs, but get him off the list and find someone who can help the club in 2020.

You write as if you know the club doesn't have some sort of termination clause in KK's contract should he not be able to play because of concussion. 

Edited March 2, 20205 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia
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