Hopefully it's too late for the AFL to change the Draft rules Father Sons...

 

8 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Hopefully it's too late for the AFL to change the Draft rules Father Sons...

 

Did they not recently make a change re a boy (forget the name) we had put time and effort in up Darwin way? And what do you know, he's now probably going to the Gold Coast Basket Case.

2 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Did they not recently make a change re a boy (forget the name) we had put time and effort in up Darwin way? And what do you know, he's now probably going to the Gold Coast Basket Case.

Possibly... I was referring to the Mac Andrew NGA rule changes for the draft.

 

 

1 hour ago, A F said:

Thanks for that mate. 

Jeepers, Paddy has a brother coming through now? So there's like an 8 or 9 year age gap? What's he like? Cripps is one of my favourite non MFC players, despite going down hill a bit the last few years. Would love to get his brother if they're at all similar. Carlton would be in prime position to lure him... or even West Coast I suppose.

I saw him play last season for Aquinas and he just looked okay. 2021 was his draft year, but he injured his knee last year and is only coming back. He’s a big unit, taller than Paddy and could be a late boomer, but don’t see him being like his brother 

4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Thanks for that. Very informative and much appreciated.

Your welcome. It was a difficult question to answer. How much do we have to pay for a player in matched points,  when we don’t know what we have to match.

 

4 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

Did they not recently make a change re a boy (forget the name) we had put time and effort in up Darwin way? And what do you know, he's now probably going to the Gold Coast Basket Case.

 

4 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Possibly... I was referring to the Mac Andrew NGA rule changes for the draft.

 

 

Pretty sure it's yes on both counts.  Fortunately there are enough clubs with strong ties to AFL house who are expecting FS picks in the near future that they haven't changed those rules just yet. 

10 hours ago, MO FINE said:

Let’s say another club nominates him in the draft. What do we have to give away to match the bid?

The bidding system for father–sons and academies works this way -

* we assume the player is eligible as a father–son (and has accepted nomination to the club) or academy as the case may be. 

• Each draft pick is assigned a value (with No. 1 starting at 3000 points, declining exponentially until No. 74 which has no value), which is regressed from historical player salary data.

• During the draft, any club may bid for a father–son eligible player with any draft pick.

• The father's club, if it wishes to select the son, must then use its next one or more draft picks until the total points value of the surrendered picks adds up to the value of the draft pick used by the bidding, less a discount – which is either 20% of the bid value or 197 points (equivalent to pick No. 56), whichever is greater. Any points left over after reaching the bid value result in the draft pick being shuffled down the order.

• The club which originally made the bid then has the next selection in the draft.

The same bidding process also works for the academies with the exception that in the case of clubs other than the New South Wales and Queensland clubs, a bid for draft selection cannot be matched by the club to which the academy player is attached.

New bidding system for father-sons, academies

From the Huns article about 2021 FS eligible players

1 hour ago, Turner said:

from the Huns article about 2021 FS eligable players

But how's his bouncing off half back all the way forward and kicking for goal? Now wouldn't that be a sight.

Is Taj a left footer like his father?

26 and 2 goals in a best on ground performance. I cannot wait to see him play for WA and see if he is the real deal. 

Just now, Dee-licious said:

26 and 2 goals in a best on ground performance. I cannot wait to see him play for WA and see if he is the real deal. 

I spoke to Shane yesterday, he’s pretty bullish about Taj getting drafted and would love him to play at the Dees. As expected he kept his cards close to his chest, but I got the impression the club have been in regular contact 

With the news that Taj Woewodin has missed out on an invitation to the National Draft Combine, it seems that we might be able to pick him up late in the draft. Could be a handy situation for us if we happen to need the draft points.

Slightly off topic but I love the father son rule. Jeff White's tweet on the MFC website said he had a face chat with his son after the epic win and it was a special bonding moment.

How old is he? I've heard he can play and heard he is breaking school high jump records.

Back on topic I hope we get Taj. I'll back Jason Taylor he doesn't get much wrong.

5 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

Slightly off topic but I love the father son rule. Jeff White's tweet on the MFC website said he had a face chat with his son after the epic win and it was a special bonding moment.

How old is he? I've heard he can play and heard he is breaking school high jump records.

Back on topic I hope we get Taj. I'll back Jason Taylor he doesn't get much wrong.

Young White is about 15 and I’m told is closing in on his father’s height. Worth a look in the draft in a few year’s time and probably already not far off getting a thread of his own on Demonland.😀

54 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Young White is about 15 and I’m told is closing in on his father’s height. Worth a look in the draft in a few year’s time and probably already not far off getting a thread of his own on Demonland.😀

15! Far out, we’ve dropped the ball. We had a Billy Stretch thread when he was about 12. 

7 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

Slightly off topic but I love the father son rule. Jeff White's tweet on the MFC website said he had a face chat with his son after the epic win and it was a special bonding moment.

How old is he? I've heard he can play and heard he is breaking school high jump records.

Back on topic I hope we get Taj. I'll back Jason Taylor he doesn't get much wrong.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7_UDVBb9R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

Jeff White's son plays like Luke Jackson, tall and agile

1 hour ago, durango said:

Jeff White's son plays like Luke Jackson, tall and agile

Sounds like a natural forward.

4 hours ago, Nasher said:

15! Far out, we’ve dropped the ball. We had a Billy Stretch thread when he was about 12. 

Not so, @olisik started one when Kalani was 9-years of age.

 

 

Don't know where 15 came from.. But Kalani White is actually 13 years of age.

Turns 14 next March.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't know where 15 came from.. But Kalani White is actually 13 years of age.

Turns 14 next March.

damn......gotta wait another 4 years!

any feedback on how Jeff Farmer's son went during 2021. Was he playing in WA?

On 8/8/2021 at 6:30 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

The bidding system for father–sons and academies works this way -

* we assume the player is eligible as a father–son (and has accepted nomination to the club) or academy as the case may be. 

• Each draft pick is assigned a value (with No. 1 starting at 3000 points, declining exponentially until No. 74 which has no value), which is regressed from historical player salary data.

• During the draft, any club may bid for a father–son eligible player with any draft pick.

• The father's club, if it wishes to select the son, must then use its next one or more draft picks until the total points value of the surrendered picks adds up to the value of the draft pick used by the bidding, less a discount – which is either 20% of the bid value or 197 points (equivalent to pick No. 56), whichever is greater. Any points left over after reaching the bid value result in the draft pick being shuffled down the order.

• The club which originally made the bid then has the next selection in the draft.

The same bidding process also works for the academies with the exception that in the case of clubs other than the New South Wales and Queensland clubs, a bid for draft selection cannot be matched by the club to which the academy player is attached.

New bidding system for father-sons, academies

With this and the academies, to make them fair, instead of removing access to top 20 picks surely they could have just said "no discount for any first round bids, plus you need to have and spend a 2nd round as part of the points", meaning that you can't trade up in front of the expected bid in return for cheap picks in 50s.

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

any feedback on how Jeff Farmer's son went during 2021. Was he playing in WA?

Pretty ordinary at Colts level.