13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Our problem is not Oscar and he will not be our worst player next year. He is not a turnover merchant. Personally I think he will have an improved year. Love to see him put on 5kgs of muscle.

That's frightening.

10 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

It would’ve been ludicrous to think that any free agent (already based at a Melbourne club) would choose Brisbane over us, if they were to make a move (assuming commensurate offers from the Lions and the Dees).

It shows just how bad 2019 was for us.

That said, I’ve heard that we’re still up to our eyeballs in this one. It’s not over. Not yet anyway.

 

I’m not doubting your mail and I’m sure we’re up to our eyeballs in a lot of players. I’m not sure they’re eyeballs deep into us. 

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by pewpewpew

Brisbane train at Coorparoo which is about 5 mins from the Gabba but there was talk that they would have a new base in Springfield which is about 45min from the Gabba depending on traffic. 

So facilities may not be as different as we think. 

We will be out of our misery on this one, by Thursday at the latest.

7 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Brisbane train at Coorparoo which is about 5 mins from the Gabba but there was talk that they would have a new base in Springfield which is about 45min from the Gabba depending on traffic. 

So facilities may not be as different as we think. 

What is going on with that new base in Springfield Ox? Plans started on that back in 2012-13 when we were living in Springfield.

8 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Brisbane train at Coorparoo which is about 5 mins from the Gabba but there was talk that they would have a new base in Springfield which is about 45min from the Gabba depending on traffic. 

So facilities may not be as different as we think. 

And that Coorparoo ground is an absolute goat track these days. Gets a lot of traffic. They did just resurface the second oval there, but still, the facilities are nothing to write home about.

I have been swayed by the powerful logic in a number of posts in this thread.

Elliott's decision is basically a referendum on our club. Him choosing lions over us would be a clear statement that we are a club no decent player wanrs to go to and further evidence of a club in crisis, how poor Goodwin is(ooh isnt fagan just wonderful) and how damaging 2019 really was.

On the back of demons players left  right and centre wanting out like the exodus out of the crows we are a rabble.

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by binman

4 minutes ago, binman said:

I have been swayed by the powerful logic in a number of posts in this thread.

Elliott's decision is basically a referendum on our club. Him choosing lions over us would be a clear statement that we are a club no decent player wanrs to go to and further evidence of a club in crisis, how poor Goodwin is(ooh isnt fagan just wonderful) and how damaging 2019 really was.

On the back of demons players left  right and centre wanting out like the exodus out of the crows we are a rabble.

You've been turning into quite the smartarz lately Binman.

 

What happened?

 

4 minutes ago, faultydet said:

You've been turning into quite the smartarz lately Binman.

 

What happened?

 

I'm guessing 2019...but 'bin' can talk for himself.

I reckon he decided on us a few weeks ago.

Agree. If Lions offer 3 years then he may prefer the sunshine state over us. Hard to believe 12 months ago. 

Ricky Nixon

 

@rickynixontoot

 

I have new news on Jamie Elliott the Pies have now offered him a 3 year deal at $500K now he’s rethinking Bris

Jesus we’re a depressing bunch on here lately. This is a bad as I remember it ever being. Although on the positive everyone seems in agreement on the depressing sentiment so there’s little arguing. 

Im going to go out on a limb here. Melb has an industry acknowledged wealth of talent.. we were absolutely crucified by injuries last year and a lack of prep preceding that. People know this. Goodwin still seems to be held in high regard and our facilities aren’t [censored]. There not like the pies but they’re not [censored]. 

If im Elliot and I get to train really close to where I used to, get a better deal with a side that may come again with a rush ( I’m a believer) in 2020 then why not us? 

1 hour ago, pewpewpew said:

I’m not doubting your mail and I’m sure we’re up to our eyeballs in a lot of players. I’m not sure they’re eyeballs deep into us. 

 

I've got no idea where Elliott will go but I think he will leave Collingwood because otherwise he would have said he's staying already.

His decision on Brisbane v Melbourne will be mainly based around where he wants to live.  Does he want to leave his social network in Melbourne, is there a lure of Brisbane being "out of the footy bubble".  Does he want to be close to family (really, after living in Melbourne for so long), what does his girlfriend/wife want to do - I don't know if he's married.  Does he want the hassle of moving home.

It will depend on other things:

• how does he compare the clubs potential - I don't think this is the issue many are making out.  Everyone in footy knows why we faltered this year and how easily fixed it is.  And a tougher draw and a few injuries in Brisbane next year might see them fall.
• how does he respond to the coaches - MFC have attracted just about everyone we've wanted to since the Roos/Jackson era.  Richardson and Burgess against stiff opposition, May and Lever when there were other suitors.  Both coaches/footy departments are very impressive internally.
• What role does the club want him to play.  Midfield/forward, forward.
• Does he know others at the Clubs.

and the list goes on.  People are taking a far too simplistic a view of this.  The offers will be similar and his decision will be fundamentally personal and not related to rating one club above another.

Edit:  Dazzles information, if true, now means Collingwood are back in the frame and will most likely retain him.  Players basically prefer the devil they know....

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by Baghdad Bob

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ricky Nixon

 

@rickynixontoot

 

I have new news on Jamie Elliott the Pies have now offered him a 3 year deal at $500K now he’s rethinking Bris

If true, and I’d take this Chicken with a grain of salt, you would expect that he’d take that from Collingwood. 

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ricky Nixon

 

@rickynixontoot

 

I have new news on Jamie Elliott the Pies have now offered him a 3 year deal at $500K now he’s rethinking Bris

Nixon was also parading the Hawks as one of the candidates which turned out to be completely false, and then piggybacked on the Brisbane info from yesterday claiming he knew all along. Sounds like guesswork to me. On the basis he's correct, I don't think we could conceivably up that offer. 

7 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Nixon was also parading the Hawks as one of the candidates which turned out to be completely false, and then piggybacked on the Brisbane info from yesterday claiming he knew all along. Sounds like guesswork to me. On the basis he's correct, I don't think we could conceivably up that offer. 

If it was the 3 years that he was looking for then that should keep him at Collingwood. We would be foolish to offer more cash and upping to a longer term becomes risky. 

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If it was the 3 years that he was looking for then that should keep him at Collingwood. We would be foolish to offer more cash and upping to a longer term becomes risky. 

I'd hope the footy department are sensible enough to leave whatever we have on the table. Hope we have a decent look into Sam Gray or Dan Butler. Neither would cost that much in terms of both $$ and picks and could end up being to us what Sam Lloyd is to the Doggies now.

24 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Jesus we’re a depressing bunch on here lately. This is a bad as I remember it ever being. Although on the positive everyone seems in agreement on the depressing sentiment so there’s little arguing. 

Im going to go out on a limb here. Melb has an industry acknowledged wealth of talent.. we were absolutely crucified by injuries last year and a lack of prep preceding that. People know this. Goodwin still seems to be held in high regard and our facilities aren’t [censored]. There not like the pies but they’re not [censored]. 

If im Elliot and I get to train really close to where I used to, get a better deal with a side that may come again with a rush ( I’m a believer) in 2020 then why not us? 

I reckon Elliot would have been a lock-in for us but after spending a bit of time on demonland he’s having second thoughts.

On 9/12/2019 at 8:43 PM, Redleg said:

Because Eddie won't let it. 

In answer to a post where it was asked why it couldn’t happen, I posted the above as my first post, of many, though latterly just having a bit of fun. 

Deep down this has always been my belief in relation to Elliott, who is one of the Pies’ fans favourite players.

Happy to be proved wrong, but I feel they, the Elliott team, have used us and the Lions to get a better deal from the Pies.

We will soon know.

Is that the twang of a hammy?

Hmmm...30 odd games in 4 years

Too, too risky

Look elsewhere

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

What is going on with that new base in Springfield Ox? Plans started on that back in 2012-13 when we were living in Springfield.

Not 100% sure but it was a while ago 2018 I think where it was announced that they had funding from government and council and it would go ahead but strangely nothing since. 

Springfield is a hell of a long way from the Gabba too similar to Casey and the mcg I suppose. 

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by DemonOX

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

You've been turning into quite the smartarz lately Binman.

 

What happened?

 

To be fair to me.

I've always been a bit of a smart [censored], dipire agreeing with maxim  sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

And I really struggle to contain my smart assery when rationale argument seems not to work against crazy logic. 

As that correctly suggest 2019 has tested my patiencevon dl.

Seen touring Brisvagas facilities.  Certainly investigating his options...