The calumny of the AFL's priority pick policy

[Skin Deeamond 339]

On 8/8/2019 at 2:31 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Early draft picks are wasted up there, as is Tony Cochrane. 

He ruined V8 Supercars and is doing another superb job 

They’re wasted at MFC too.

[Sir Why You Little 36,737]

2 minutes ago, Skin Deeamond said:

They’re wasted at MFC too.

Not if we find real leaders....

[Skin Deeamond 339]

7 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

I agree with all of the arguments about early picks etc not being the answer but I would still like to see the club throw out a curve ball by applying for a priority pick on the basis of our mediocre performance this year. After all, even Garry Lyon thinks we’re cr@p and we’ve played in the finals once in 13 years. 

Oops, sorry. We’re nice guys. We don’t rock boats, we sink in them.

Garry Lyon bags MFC constantly in public without making any suggestions as to how to fix the problems. He was part of the problem a few years ago when he participated in coach selection. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

On 8/9/2019 at 3:41 PM, Little Goffy said:

The evidence has come through again and again that top picks aren't the decisive factor for a climb back up the ladder.

Quality coaching and development, a bit of stability and confidence at the club, 'culture' and all that, are what counts.

Both count. It’s quality coaching and development, culture, stability etc AND getting talented kids through the draft. You’re a much higher chance of getting the most talented kids at the pointy end of the draft. That’s just a fact. Gold Coast will get priority pick 1 to go with with pick 2 and the Dees will get pushed down to 3. 

[TRIGON 4,783]

When it comes to lobbying, a good point raised earlier is the impact that granting Priority Picks would have on the willingness of clubs to trade picks on draft night. Gil can’t have it both ways.

Edited August 11, 2019 by TRIGON

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

7 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Posters keep forgetting that a priority pick enables greater bargaining power to land those types of players (if under contract).

That's the whole point here. A priority pick enables greater flexibility around drafting and trading for experience/talent.

I don't think anyone believes it would be in Gold Coast's best interest to only hit the draft with picks.

The problem is no-one of serious quality wants to go there. Pick 2 got them Lachie Weller who is really just an average player. You can’t force other clubs to give up a state if they don’t have to.

[olisik 4,060]

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-09/suns-priority-pick-call-sees-rivals-question-value-of-trading-draft-selections

Seems Gill is already telling clubs that GC have a strong case with clubs like Adelaide kicking up a stink already. Sounds like typical Dees are staying silent on this as usual.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

34 minutes ago, olisik said:

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-09/suns-priority-pick-call-sees-rivals-question-value-of-trading-draft-selections

Seems Gill is already telling clubs that GC have a strong case with clubs like Adelaide kicking up a stink already. Sounds like typical Dees are staying silent on this as usual.

Done deal Olisik. Gill already buttering the other clubs up for priority pick. We will have pick 3

[Deesprate 1,324]

In term of being a basket case Dees leave suns for dead. No premiership since 64; one finals campaign since 2006; multiple bottom four finishes over 50 years and no genuine home. That said we would butcher pick two or trade it for another injury prone player.

[manny100 1,411]

Looks like it could well be done. They need established players not kids. If they get one it will be Picks 1, 2 plus Lions first rounder. Plus Rankine available after missing 2018 with injury. 

The difference in pick value for us would be equivalent to a  pick 49. Third rounder. You can bet we will not be compensated. Its the player available at pick 2 this year that really hurts if we miss out. Evidently there is daylight between the first 2 picks and the 3rd pick. That happens some drafts. Last year it was the top 3.  

Not happy if they get 1.

[whatwhat say what 22,308]

1 hour ago, olisik said:

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-09/suns-priority-pick-call-sees-rivals-question-value-of-trading-draft-selections

Seems Gill is already telling clubs that GC have a strong case with clubs like Adelaide kicking up a stink already. Sounds like typical Dees are staying silent on this as usual.

pert on 3aw was also very much of the opinion that it won't help them

compared our worst 5 years when we applied for one and got rejected vs their last five years; they were clearly ahead of games won

clubs will be arguing against it, but i think it's a moot point - they'll get one

[roy11 3,720]

coming out defending now

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-15/its-become-a-bit-archaic-demon-concerns-over-priority-pick-system

[Lucifers Hero 39,044]

36 minutes ago, roy11 said:

coming out defending now

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-15/its-become-a-bit-archaic-demon-concerns-over-priority-pick-system

While Goodwin's comments look defensive and self-serving he makes a good point that with future pick trading the priority picks are out of date eg GCS can trade their future 1st rnd for another 2019 1st rnd pick and trade up the order eg they can trade a player and there 2020 1st pick to us for our 2019 pick #2 and get the two players they want.

[Redleg 40,363]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

While Goodwin's comments look defensive and self-serving he makes a good point that with future pick trading the priority picks are out of date eg GCS can trade their future 1st rnd for another 2019 1st rnd pick and trade up the order eg they can trade a player and there 2020 1st pick to us for our 2019 pick #2 and get the two players they want.

If GCS traded their 2020 first round pick to us they would win the flag.

MFCSS says hi.

[olisik 4,060]

Proud of Goodwin weighing in. About time the dees made a bit of noise about AFL bullshitting us around.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Will be officially announced tomorrow apparently.

 

 

[Moonshadow 17,577]

[censored] us over again AFL, why don't you...

[DemonOX 8,733]

Was never in doubt. 

What a joke. 

[Cards13 9,117]

You’re kidding me?!?! 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

They delist Lyons and get a priority pick.

Thanks Gil

[Frustrated Demon 244]

Wouldn’t have anything to complain about if we had a decent year.

[Swooper1987 3,310]

There's plenty of other decent talent - Young and Ash would both suit us.  It's disappointing but at the start of the year we'd have been expecting a pick around 16-18.

[dazzledavey36 53,255]

HaydenYoung and Lachie Ash are 2 absolute gem footballers.

I am bias because of my work that I did with Ash in the past but Young is quite similar to Lachie Whitfield.

[3183 Dee 2,826]

I think they have to trade Pick 2, which would mean that it’s open slather as to who ends up with that pick. Do we still get pick 20?

[3183 Dee 2,826]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

HaydenYoung and Lachie Ash are 2 absolute gem footballers.

I am bias because of my work that I did with Ash in the past but Young is quite similar to Lachie Whitfield.

What type of players are they, Daz?