7 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

He’s a good assistant with a schoolteaching background. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have fresh ideas - it just didn’t translate into the top job. He’s not a leader of men into battle. He’s a cuddler. A 2IC. Good cop to the bad cop.

Not sure any AFL coaches are leaders of men into battle, given none of them hold positions of leadership in the military. 

10 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Not sure any AFL coaches are leaders of men into battle, given none of them hold positions of leadership in the military. 

A 'battle' is  not exclusively defined as pertaining only to military conflict.

1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

I don't know that good bloke factor is what a club needs sometimes (not that Mitchell isn't). But he does bring is a winning mindset, a winning resume and highline footballing IQ. He's also a natural leader. Some might not like him but everyone would respect him. Big difference when a guy like Mitchell eyeballs you with directions, someone who's fought in the trenches and been to the Summit of football four times.

Congratulations on using both a war and a mountaineering metaphor in the one sentance. However neither have any real link to the game of football.

FWIW I've heard suggestions that Mitchell can be a bit of a [censored], which would certainly affect his impact on any group.

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Congratulations on using both a war and a mountaineering metaphor in the one sentance. However neither have any real link to the game of football.

FWIW I've heard suggestions that Mitchell can be a bit of a [censored], which would certainly affect his impact on any group.

Metaphors can have a link to anything if you use them appropriately enough. That's why they're metaphors.

Also, it's sentence with three e's.

Of course he's abit of a [censored].
Tackled with his knees and like Ablett bumping with his elbows it was just a poor technique.

4 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Metaphors can have a link to anything if you use them appropriately enough. That's why they're metaphors.

Also, it's sentence with three e's.

Shame you didn't, teacher.

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Shame you didn't, teacher.

Now now, metaphors can mean whatever one like's remember?

Sam Mitchell has fought in the trenches, obviously. He's dropped the soap with the boys, got blood on his hands, been around the block a few times, been bent over a few barrels, and even been chewed up and spat out.

Dude's had a rough time, gotta give him that. Don't know if it makes him coaching material though!

48 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Metaphors can have a link to anything if you use them appropriately enough. That's why they're metaphors.

Also, it's sentence with three e's.

You mean like I metaphor a drink, and she continually laughed at my ideas about footy

Is McArtney, Paul's brother, coz that's the way I pronounce it

As an ex military person, footy has no resemblance to it whatsoever

It sticks in my craw, everytime I see the drivel they produce to advertise the Anzac game

An example of 2 great players who 'climbed the mountains' and 'fought in the trenches', but failed spectacularly as coaches, Voss and Hird

 

Cant believe i liked a Saty post...

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

An example of 2 great players who 'climbed the mountains' and 'fought in the trenches', but failed spectacularly as coaches, Voss and Hird

Sheedy, Malthouse, Matthews, Blight, Worsfold, Thompson, C.Scott, Longmire, Hardwick Simpson. Hell chuck in R.D.Barassi while we’re at it. Cheers.

4 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Sheedy, Malthouse, Matthews, Blight, Worsfold, Thompson, C.Scott, Longmire, Hardwick Simpson. Hell chuck in R.D.Barassi while we’re at it. Cheers.

If anything, you're just proving the opposite of your point - given how many great players there are, that's a tiny list. In reality, very very few great players go on to be great coaches.

Some people just love to [censored] a dead horse...

8 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Cant believe i liked a Saty post...

Me to Mooney,will? wonders never cease. This season is effecting me strangely

12 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

With the Blues in turmoil and likely another rebuild or major reno under a new coach in 2020, Jones in his twilight years and on the verge of retiring, is it time we got our own version of a Dusty type to add to our mid field stocks?  Just might be the tincture of tenderness needed to create our Milton and win the big one! ...

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-2019-rival-club-could-pinch-patrick-cripps-if-carlton-cant-change-losing-habits-says-mark-maclure/news-story/ca9ee424332a3cd897c556709e728e75

Maclure is being hysterical...surprise.

The Carlton list is in a good position and with the right coach will turn it around quickly.

They don't need a major rebuild, just time, a good coach and a few targeted acquisitions.

9 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

As an ex military person, footy has no resemblance to it whatsoever

It sticks in my craw, everytime I see the drivel they produce to advertise the Anzac game

Fully agree Saty, it completely irritates me every time I see the 2 linked together. It is usually compared by those who have no military experience.

23 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Fully agree Saty, it completely irritates me every time I see the 2 linked together. It is usually compared by those who have no military experience.

I have no military experience but it certainly irritates me too.

9 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It sticks in my craw, everytime I see the drivel they produce to advertise the Anzac game

good words Saty....

3 hours ago, bing181 said:

If anything, you're just proving the opposite of your point - given how many great players there are, that's a tiny list. In reality, very very few great players go on to be great coaches.

19 of the past 29 premierships have been won by coaches who previously won premierships as players. 66%.

Satyricon gave 2 examples, I countered with 12  Add David Parkin to the list. 

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Me to Mooney,will? wonders never cease. This season is effecting me strangely

I was going to say affecting, but then I agree, it could effect something in you.

Perhaps needless pedentry?

[this is a joke post, without metaphors]

58 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Fully agree Saty, it completely irritates me every time I see the 2 linked together. It is usually compared by those who have no military experience.

Two opposing forces engaging in combat. Close your eyes and really think DD. The metaphorical link will eventually crystallise and make sense.

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Maclure is being hysterical...surprise.

The Carlton list is in a good position and with the right coach will turn it around quickly.

They don't need a major rebuild, just time, a good coach and a few targeted acquisitions.

Yes had they won the two against GCS and the Hawks Bolton might still be coaching Rjay.  I thought they weren't far away either.

Wonder what Cripps thinks about the latest goings on though.  Might be gettable.

Edited June 3, 20196 yr by Rusty Nails

i disagree - carlton's list is a hodge-podge mix that is pretty average

• too many tall defenders who lack strength (jones is easily the best of an average bunch, marchbank, weitering, plowman, plus goddard as a rookie)
• too many poorly skilled mids (as good as cripps is he's a terrible kick for the most part, dow is an awful kick, sps is super average, and fisher is tiny and not skilled enough to make up for it, matt kennedy and setterfield more failed gw$ recruits)
• too many tall forwards who don't like body contact (mcgovern, curnow, mckay, and to a lesser extent kerr, who won't make the side while the other three are around)
• no real small forwards providing defensive pressure (pickett and garlett are the only ones and they're perma-crocked, while silvagni at least tries to tackle but just gets brushed aside by bigger and smaller oppo)
• too many injury-prone veterans (murphy, daisy, kreuzer, casboult, simpson and docherty is not old but hasn't played for coming up three seasons)

the likes of walsh, dow, weitering, o'brien, fisher and stocker should be good, but how many times have we said that about kids who show something in their first year?

if i was plucking the eyes outta the blues list there's not many players i'd be super keen on:

• cripps
• walsh
• mckay
• charlie curnow
• marchbank
• maybe weitering, fisher and sps
• jones as a veteran, but he's no better / worse than frost, really
• o'brien, stocker you have no real idea on them at this point

the rebuild continues on and they have adelaide's first round pick in 2019 and then nothing til the third round

Edited June 4, 20196 yr by whatwhatsaywhat

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Maclure is being hysterical...surprise.

The Carlton list is in a good position and with the right coach will turn it around quickly.

They don't need a major rebuild, just time, a good coach and a few targeted acquisitions.

Unfortunately yes.

With the talent they have, they should have jagged some wins against good sides on days when it all "clicked".

That they haven't says everything you need to know about Bolton. Surprised it took this long.

12 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

A 'battle' is  not exclusively defined as pertaining only to military conflict.

In the context of your sentence, that's exactly how it reads. You can argue semantics all you like, your metaphor is poor at best if this was not your intention. I will call out the likening of a game of football to the horrors of war every time I see it because it is a ridiculous modern day sentiment among football commentary I am sick of hearing. Give it a rest. 

1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Two opposing forces engaging in combat. Close your eyes and really think DD. The metaphorical link will eventually crystallise and make sense.

Did you reply to my post?  all I can see is garbage.