3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

A little bit of an over-reaction...

Not by Clint Bizkit's standards.

Like praha and BBP, it's glass half empty, always.

IMO saying our list isn't good enough and that we need to start again, aside from being pure pessimism, just isn't a reasonable position to take based on this year in the context of the last five years.

If we struggle again in 2020 then that will change things, but given what we did with our list and culture from 2014-2018, I don't accept that 2019 is enough evidence to say we're cooked and we need to rebuild.

On 8/9/2019 at 3:42 PM, Dee tention said:

We are deep into our 5 year plan to win a premiership and I think we should go after Shaun Higgins... I don’t care if we pay overs. He is still playing great football and is a weapon! Let’s offer him something he can’t and North can’t refuse. 

Is Brad Hill and Ed Langdon possible if we trade Pick 2 to Freo? If so do it...

Could Pick 2 land us Jack Martin and Peter Wright? Is Ben King possible? Let’s throw the Kitchen Sink! 

We need to be the most proactive club in Trade period. Ruthless Dees!

 

Was thinking the same thing about pick one if we could offer one of our best to get the one and two rowell and Anderson to MFC.

If gold coast could take pick 2 and we get a great young player they could get rowell and Anderson and we could take a player who can fill a need.

Anderson looks good as the fallback position!

28 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Not by Clint Bizkit's standards.

Like praha and BBP, it's glass half empty, always.

IMO saying our list isn't good enough and that we need to start again, aside from being pure pessimism, just isn't a reasonable position to take based on this year in the context of the last five years.

If we struggle again in 2020 then that will change things, but given what we did with our list and culture from 2014-2018, I don't accept that 2019 is enough evidence to say we're cooked and we need to rebuild.

I find @praha to hold very well-balanced views 

 

edit @0- Christ on a stick, man, wer’re 17th!

Edited August 10, 20195 yr by Superunknown
Christ on a stick

36 going on in 2020. 

May Lever Frost Hore

Jetta Hibberd Salem. Lockhart Jordan Neitscke  

Oliver Viney Brayshaw Harmes  Sparrow Stretch*  jones kk* 

Gawn Preuss 

Tmcd Weid Petty Bradtke 

Petracca Melksham Fritsch ANB Hunt Hannan Vandenburg* Jsmith* cwagner Baker Dunkley Bedford 

key needs

1/ skilled midfield running machines x 2 mature age (Brad Hill,Stephen Hill, ) and a ready to go quality mid with pace (Lachlan Ash) . Need pace and delivery  

2/ magic small forward who can crumb, tackles, chases and hungry for goals  ( kshiah pickett)  

3/ tall forward young type to develop (Harrison Jones or Charlie Dean) or a Matthew Allen (Eagles) fringe type who needs an AFL Chance 

4/ wildcards. 3rd -4th round draft picks Charlie Sprague. Jed Hill.  Jay Rantall. Miles Bergman.  (Players that will make it at AFL due to be quality athletes or smart skilled youngsters). Size to play AFL. 

5/ the mature vfl type who is a footballers footballer  (like a ben brown , Kane lambert, broody mihocek type addition) look for Sam Fisher or Frank Anderson or Campbell Hustwaite    

About 4 mature types and 6 youngsters to come onboard.

We need to look at our list and decide who is going to be part of our next premiership and who isn’t. If they are not that standard we must trade them.

7 minutes ago, olisik said:

We need to look at our list and decide who is going to be part of our next premiership and who isn’t. If they are not that standard we must trade them.

Hard to trade too many in one year, olisik...

Has to be a 2 - 3 year journey

The challenge this year is to nail our second round pick. Hell... it's almost as high as the first rounder we traded out last year.

Last Chance Saloon

Our midfield is grossly overrated and whilst our forward line is yuck we should be focussing mainly on trying to add two or three B+ to A grade midfielders.

6 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Not by Clint Bizkit's standards.

We’ve played finals once since 2007 and are currently in 17th having only (just) beaten bottom sides this year after winning two finals last year.

How the heck am I supposed to react?

Dan Butler from Richmond is the player that Melbourne is targeting. Would be a great recruit for us 

24 minutes ago, Storm Boy said:

Dan Butler from Richmond is the player that Melbourne is targeting. Would be a great recruit for us 

Source?

Keep an eye on Harley Reid from Tongala.  U14 comp has kicked over 100 goals for the year.  future gun in the making 

19 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Keep an eye on Harley Reid from Tongala.  U14 comp has kicked over 100 goals for the year.  future gun in the making 

Maybe we could recruit him early to teach Trac how to kick at goal.

On 5/3/2019 at 5:18 PM, John Demonic said:

If we want to inject pace into this club, then we have to shed one of our mids.

Could be ... might not be - depends on the interpretation that will be slightly downcast after this season. I'd like to see better coaching ameliorating our consistent woes onfield. Of the three you suggest, if one midfielder had to go then it could well be Viney whose form and questionable playing routines (inviting opponents to take him on, for example) hamper the Team; further, he is not quite the kind of guy we need at the moment as a player and certainly, as a captain. 

4 hours ago, Storm Boy said:

Dan Butler from Richmond is the player that Melbourne is targeting. Would be a great recruit for us 

Hope not. We don't need another small that doesn't hit the scoreboard

On 7/29/2019 at 6:41 PM, Patches O’houlihan said:

the locks for our best 22 right now in my eyes

 

B: Nev Jetta                       Steven May                        Jake Lever 

hb: Christian Salem           Sam Frost                         ???????

c  ???????                            Clayton Oliver                  ????????

hf:   Christian Petracca     Tom McDonald                Jake Melksham

f:  ????????                            ????????????????           Bailey Fritsch 

Fol: Max Gawn                     Jack Viney                       ????????

I/C:  Angus Brayshaw,   James Harmes   ????????      ???????

 

We need some outside run desperately 

I think we are light on for on field leadership. 

desperately need a second key forward target to take the pressure off McDonald. need to open up the war chest and chase a big name here. 

 

Bump - this is very much the reality. No point in filling all those gaps with JKH, ANB, Stretch etc. We need to add legitimate skilled players - it may take a couple of years.

2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Keep an eye on Harley Reid from Tongala.  U14 comp has kicked over 100 goals for the year.  future gun in the making 

Small forward or a tall forward whose just short because he’s about 13-years old?

Darcy Fogarty just kicked 5 goals against the Eagles. As I posted a week or two ago here, he should definitely be targeted as a forward marking and goal kicking option. Aggressive, strong, clunks marks, kicks straight, he’s got everything we need as a forward target. 

Big question is will Goodwin push to trade out our first rounders for established players? I can see him wanting to trade pick #2 away for a Hill as it will help him sustain his role as senior coach. No point drafting a kid who will take time to develop in Goodwins eyes.

Butler will be a good pick up. He’ll cost a 4th rounder at most and he applies forward pressure. Won’t kick 40 goals but he’ll be handy. 

1 hour ago, olisik said:

Big question is will Goodwin push to trade out our first rounders for established players? I can see him wanting to trade pick #2 away for a Hill as it will help him sustain his role as senior coach. No point drafting a kid who will take time to develop in Goodwins eyes.

I am concerned about this. Goodwin wants immediate results. Hopefully Mahoney and co are smarter than that. 

1 hour ago, olisik said:

Big question is will Goodwin push to trade out our first rounders for established players? I can see him wanting to trade pick #2 away for a Hill as it will help him sustain his role as senior coach. No point drafting a kid who will take time to develop in Goodwins eyes.

I don't mind the idea of trading the pick for the right deal. but only if there is confidence they know what's caused the fall this year and are absolutely sure next year won't be the same thing

4 minutes ago, Hunt29 said:

I am concerned about this. Goodwin wants immediate results. Hopefully Mahoney and co are smarter than that. 

We need immediate results. Membership numbers need to be saved. We should look at Sydney, who cannot afford to bottom out. We are now at that stage

 

19 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We need immediate results. Membership numbers need to be saved. We should look at Sydney, who cannot afford to bottom out. We are now at that stage

 

I’m all for immediate results if it’s a flag. I’m just worried we’ll overpay and fall horribly short. 

1 minute ago, Hunt29 said:

I’m all for immediate results if it’s a flag. I’m just worried we’ll overpay and fall horribly short. 

I am hoping the CEO steps up once this 2019 horror show is over. He ran The Filth very well for many years, we need that growth right now, we are back to being “The Pathetic Joke” again in the wider community and it has to be sorted this off season  

We cannot afford to fall short. We have done that too often