Goodwin is under some pressure right now, but not for his job. 

The pressure on him, is to get it right. 

I believe other coaches have pulled apart his gameplan and worked out how to beat it, all over the ground. 

So it is up to Simon to counterpunch this week. Lose to Essendrug, and 2019 is almost cooked. 

I don’t understand how a forward line can become so inept, of even the games basic skills, but it’s what i saw on Saturday Night. 

So Simon i hope you have some answers....

16 minutes ago, praha said:

We play finals for the first time in a decade and you want to put a coach's worth down to a single game?

A couple of losses make supporters do strange things.

19 minutes ago, Hellofatime said:

Goodwin has a very smart manager, getting him a three year contract before we have played a game this year, and coming directly off our worst loss from 2018.  Very clever.  We couldn't have waited until round 10 to see if he was worth continuing with?

Goodwin would have been given a new contract even if we didn't make finals last year, I won't go into all the reasons why as this was covered in the previous Goodwin thread.

Good move by the club.  Lock him in.  He doesn't lose his cool and communicates well from what I can see.

He hasn't been perfect (Jordan Lewis made a slow list slower; we sold the farm for Lever and removed ourselves from the super-draft), and these ramifications with stay with us for years.  However....

The simpletons just look at a couple of games and judge.  These are the same simpletons that would be spitting chips if Adelaide poached him and offered him a 5-6 year deal, if we hesitated.

I am a big believer in not extending a contract to an un-poachable.  But Adelaide would have circled.  (Pike might be a carcass in the breeze, and might be one bad stint away from the axe).  We had no other choice.

 

Coaches grow and learn on the job.  Look at Bucks, Hardwick, Clarko.

I would assume an AFL coach is like any other person. Job security makes it much easier to do a better job. Any coach worrying about his or her future, may make short-term decisions to win a few games without considering what's best in the longer term.  

On 11/28/2018 at 9:27 AM, The Swimming Dee said:

Get it done - long term deal!

i have absolute belief that Goody is our next Premiership coach

How are you feeling now about that comment?

I am not close enough to the club to know but wonder if the players have respect for our rag tag array of assistant coaches? None of them were stars modern players would respect other than for their titles. When I looked at Rattern quietly talking to a close circle of Saints at half time I shuddered.

Goodwin's contract is like flushing time and money down the toilet.

5 years of hurt awaiting us. 

2 hours ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

Goodwin's contract is like flushing time and money down the toilet.

5 years of hurt awaiting us. 

Yep!

2 hours ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

Goodwin's contract is like flushing time and money down the toilet.

5 years of hurt awaiting us. 

Totally agree. Another inept board decision. There was no reason to extend. Yet again a complete lack of understanding of reality from those who run our club. We couldn't beat anyone in the top 8 until round 21 Last year. 

#goodwinout

Aside from Lever and May, who wouldn’t help the strategic plan that the FD appear to be gunning for - you can’t help but think that’s 5 weeks in a row where our dominance of inside 50’s and resultant lack of conversion into shots must have eroded all the good will from the players playing the system from the joy of last years finals.

Clicked in the thread, saw who posted, left again.

Nothing to see here.

@Engorged Onion I don't include you in that.

Crazy idea, but why doesn’t Melbourne employ Roos again on some part time consultation basis? I saw better performances in most of 2016 than I have seen all this year. 

Goodwin should stay but all the other coaching jobs should be up for grabs. Fresh blood is needed. I’m not sure about recruitment either - nothing outstanding about this years youngsters on first impressions 

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

Clicked in the thread, saw who posted, left again.

Nothing to see here.

@Engorged Onion I don't include you in that.

All bow to the self proclaimed wise one

5 minutes ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

All bow to the self proclaimed wise one

Here is what you posted earlier:

4 hours ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

Goodwin's contract is like flushing time and money down the toilet.

5 years of hurt awaiting us. 

As I said, nothing to see here.

43 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Here is what you posted earlier:

As I said, nothing to see here.

I know what i posted, and i know who you directed your post at.

Hence my response to you.

But thanks for clearing up the already crystal clear, great wise one.

“We are easy to play against”!

Shrewd and subtle observations like this must be why he is on such coin.  Surely nobody else could see this ?

When will Goodwin run out of stupid press conference quotes?

22 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Goodwin should stay but all the other coaching jobs should be up for grabs. Fresh blood is needed. I’m not sure about recruitment either - nothing outstanding about this years youngsters on first impressions 

Totally agree. Goodwin needs new ideas. His game plan has been exposed. Essentially all the experience he has had is at a rabble at Essendon and under roos who was more about culture than game style. 

This year is a write off. All we can hope for is a richmond style clean out 

 

Interesting comments by many on Goody and I'm sure he will now be rethinking his game philosophy as will Longmire, Brad Scott, Bevo and others. 

What few have made a point of is that so far this season we have had a predominantly warm and dry start to the season, so our emphasis on stoppage work has been less integral to the outcome of most games.

What we have all seen is how our high press has been exposed on the counter and we haven't had enough pace to stop this flow on effect. This is not a new problem, go back to when we were 2-3 last year after our loss to the Tigers and you will find the comments about being exposed over the back the same.

All sides now are getting better at playing soccer-style triangles in defence which means it's harder to get intercepts and you have to wonder if our press is working - maybe that's one of the big adjustments required, although wet weather and night games sees the ball spill and the high press become more beneficial.

Certainly we are not getting any benefit out of superior forward entries - partly because of a lack of quality talls (Mac and Weids failure) and lack of quality smalls (Spargo and ANB and Sparrow before him), which forced Hunt to be sent into that role and will most likely mean Jeffy gets another shot at it on Wednesday.

The other point I'd make is that we need more out of Oliver. He still wins clearances but he has to take the game on and risk getting caught. He is our most damaging mid and he's playing safe with dinky gives that help his stats but do nothing for the team. We need him to take ownership of going forward and it's not happening and my worry is that he won't have time to make the adjustment to his game for this season.

But please, even if we fail again dismally throughout this season, don't call for Goody's exit. As with other coaches, he needs time to re-strategise and come up with a more long-lasting style, just as Hardwick did in 2017, Simmo and Bucks did in 2018 and Chris Scott, Hinkley and Richo have done this year.

On 4/1/2019 at 1:54 PM, Wiseblood said:

A couple of losses make supporters do strange things.

Try 6 of the last 7.

40 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

Interesting comments by many on Goody and I'm sure he will now be rethinking his game philosophy as will Longmire, Brad Scott, Bevo and others. 

What few have made a point of is that so far this season we have had a predominantly warm and dry start to the season, so our emphasis on stoppage work has been less integral to the outcome of most games.

What we have all seen is how our high press has been exposed on the counter and we haven't had enough pace to stop this flow on effect. This is not a new problem, go back to when we were 2-3 last year after our loss to the Tigers and you will find the comments about being exposed over the back the same.

All sides now are getting better at playing soccer-style triangles in defence which means it's harder to get intercepts and you have to wonder if our press is working - maybe that's one of the big adjustments required, although wet weather and night games sees the ball spill and the high press become more beneficial.

Certainly we are not getting any benefit out of superior forward entries - partly because of a lack of quality talls (Mac and Weids failure) and lack of quality smalls (Spargo and ANB and Sparrow before him), which forced Hunt to be sent into that role and will most likely mean Jeffy gets another shot at it on Wednesday.

The other point I'd make is that we need more out of Oliver. He still wins clearances but he has to take the game on and risk getting caught. He is our most damaging mid and he's playing safe with dinky gives that help his stats but do nothing for the team. We need him to take ownership of going forward and it's not happening and my worry is that he won't have time to make the adjustment to his game for this season.

But please, even if we fail again dismally throughout this season, don't call for Goody's exit. As with other coaches, he needs time to re-strategise and come up with a more long-lasting style, just as Hardwick did in 2017, Simmo and Bucks did in 2018 and Chris Scott, Hinkley and Richo have done this year.

Like it or leave it we are stuck with him for three years unless he turns it around in 2020 it will be the  familiar MFC of the last five decades.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Like it or leave it we are stuck with him for three years unless he turns it around in 2020 it will be the  familiar MFC of the last five decades.

He won’t last 3 more years without turning it around. 

Time to actually perform, and not just hope it improves

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Like it or leave it we are stuck with him for three years unless he turns it around in 2020 it will be the  familiar MFC of the last five decades.

If that's the case...or...no change in fortunes, then we have learnt absolutely nothing and the legacy of Jackson and Roos will have been totally flushed down the toilet.