Farewell Jesse Hogan

[olisik 4,060]

Wonder why we requested to use our 2019 first rounder in a trade...

[Whispering_Jack 31,308]

Hello. Looks like it’s been a relatively quiet night tonight. People have somewhere to go or is this the calm before the storm?

[skills32 229]

6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

If the conspiracy theory you’ve dreamed up makes you feel sick, maybe stop thinking about it for a little while?

It is not a dream Nasher, it is me putting all the pieces together and trying to come up with an answer.

If it is true then it is the fact that the AFL and Fox have got together and concocted this scenario that makes me sick.

Every year that goes by I feel more and more manipulated by the powers that be. And that makes  me angry.

Never mind we will find out tomorrow night.

If a multi club trade is announced I will consider myself vindicated.

[Demonsone 2,050]

Need to take a lesson out of Hawks they kept their mouths shut until deals were done. Unsure why Mahoney has been talking so much.

[dl4e 5,851]

50 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan stays. Circus continues another 12 months. 

Bell to take the Neale pick 5 to the superdraft, or trade it up for two mid first rounders. Get Hogan in on the cheap next year while adding top shelf young talent to their list now.

As a result May to go to a Melbourne based club, just not us.

Of course I’m not happy with this outcome as a Dees supporter. But this is the route I believe Freo under Bell and Rosich are taking. 

They’re not the dills many on here want to cast them as. 

I would hate to think of what sort of pie will get thrown at you if you are wrong.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,111]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

The Age article has us, hypothetically, getting May, KK and Pick 23 for Hogan.

It's not a sexy deal by any means, but we address two needs - a key back and outside run - while still potentially maintaining a very potent forward line, while also holding on to our first round picks for the next few years that we can use for further moves over the coming seasons.

It's a good outcome, although I can understand why people may see this as unders to begin with.

May - A player who fills a hole that has cost us multiple game this year. 

KK - Was pick 5 in 2013.  Looks a bit of a Morton, given his pace, skills and lack of contested game.  That being said his brother has turned into a bit of a beast for Geelong, so maybe there's something there. 

Pick 23 - Who knows?  Last few pick 23's have included: Will Walker; Alex Witherden; David Cunningham; Pat McKenna; Matt Crouch; Marco Paparone.  In other words, a mixed bag, but a couple of good ones here and there. 

Overall, I'd feel that we probably got a bit less than Hogan is worth, but it would be a solid return in terms of getting what we wanted out of the trade period. 

[MadAsHell 4,217]

17 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

I expect we probably are having a look at a few Delisted Free Agents if we need 8 players.

 

Purely for depth purposes only, I wouldn't be adverse to having some players like Sam Gibson, Tom Bell, Jackson Merrett, Cory Gregson, Nathan Freeman. Guys that can come in and play a role if we are struck bad by injuries.

 

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-list-changes-every-player-who-has-retired-or-been-delisted-in-2018/news-story/edfcb8470efd9dc61d0c50a89926e3e5 list can be found here if people want to have peruse!

Nathan Wright as back up in the event Nevill were to get injured. We need another small defender in the squad.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,672]

2 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Need to take a lesson out of Hawks they kept their mouths shut until deals were done. Unsure why Mahoney has been talking so much.

I thought he had said very little...

[Pates 9,691]

2 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

May - A player who fills a hole that has cost us multiple game this year. 

KK - Was pick 5 in 2013.  Looks a bit of a Morton, given his pace, skills and lack of contested game.  That being said his brother has turned into a bit of a beast for Geelong, so maybe there's something there. 

Pick 23 - Who knows?  Last few pick 23's have included: Will Walker; Alex Witherden; David Cunningham; Pat McKenna; Matt Crouch; Marco Paparone.  In other words, a mixed bag, but a couple of good ones here and there. 

Overall, I'd feel that we probably got a bit less than Hogan is worth, but it would be a solid return in terms of getting what we wanted out of the trade period. 

If we take that club it will be on the club to spin it in the way you have there. At the end of the period every club will be saying they are happy because they have filled need X and managed to trade into/remain in position Y in the draft. 

We will definitely be getting unders for Hogan and Mahoney’s bold statement of a trade for hogan being up there as one of the highest of all time will look like a complete joke. 

[beelzebub 23,390]

2 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I thought he had said very little...

Said bugger all. Lots of people putting words in his mouth.

Much I what I recall has been predictably generic.

Some of what I thought he'd said he hadn't at all 

Journos getting twitchy.

[qarocks 107]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

All the traders should be locked in a room with no chairs, no food, no water, no toilets and not be let out until all the deals are done.

now this is the trade tv show id watch. Only one emerges alive - and gets all the trades for their club.

[Little Goffy 14,820]

11 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Need to take a lesson out of Hawks they kept their mouths shut until deals were done. Unsure why Mahoney has been talking so much. 

I must've missed the resolution of the Wingard / Burton kerfuffle.

[Beetle 4,715]

 

17 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

May - A player who fills a hole that has cost us multiple game this year. 

KK - Was pick 5 in 2013.  Looks a bit of a Morton, given his pace, skills and lack of contested game.  That being said his brother has turned into a bit of a beast for Geelong, so maybe there's something there. 

Pick 23 - Who knows?  Last few pick 23's have included: Will Walker; Alex Witherden; David Cunningham; Pat McKenna; Matt Crouch; Marco Paparone.  In other words, a mixed bag, but a couple of good ones here and there. 

Overall, I'd feel that we probably got a bit less than Hogan is worth, but it would be a solid return in terms of getting what we wanted out of the trade period. 

I know they’re just numbers but Jake Kolodjashnij was pick 41 in the same draft as Kade....stating the obvious, but there has to be something there that recruiters saw in Kade for him to be taken at 5.

Lets hope so anyway..

Edited October 16, 2018 by Beetle

[Demonsone 2,050]

14 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I thought he had said very little...

Really said we needed to do hogan deal to get May etc etc 

[Gunna’s 2,104]

22 minutes ago, olisik said:

Wonder why we requested to use our 2019 first rounder in a trade...

Have we received a response to this?

If so, surely Lewis can flick some emails around for the players to sacrifice the salary cap required to keep Hogan and get May

[Beetle 4,715]

2 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Really said we needed to do hogan deal to get May etc etc 

Not really. He was asked whether we could get May without offloading Hogan to which he replied no. He didn’t bring it up to my knowledge. Simply being honest.

[Willmoy1947 4,229]

Fox News have just come up with the Name of the Show tomorrow, it's called "The Aussie Patriot Pre Games"

[Deesprate 1,324]

33 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Scully's ankle is [censored] and Wingard is a downhill skier. 

Plus they are losing Burton who is a very promising young gun. Had a poor season this year but was a gun in 2017.

We can only hope that Burton is a gun and Scully & Wingard are busts. Seriously other than the Dees winning a flag my greatest hope is to see Hawthorn slide. 50 years of domination is enough.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,293]

Just finished off a whole pack of dark choc royals and about to wash them down with a glass of rose’.

I don’t think life gets any better than this. 

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

The conspiracy theory that trade period is largely a manufactured farse is actually doing the rounds at the moment - and not just one poster here's thought bubble 

I agree that there is growing whispers that the last day is when trades must be announced in line with the Fox telecast.

[chook fowler 19,744]

29 minutes ago, qarocks said:

now this is the trade tv show id watch. Only one emerges alive - and gets all the trades for their club.

It would be a hit on Gogglebox 

[Dee Zephyr 19,290]

43 minutes ago, olisik said:

Wonder why we requested to use our 2019 first rounder in a trade...

 

19 minutes ago, Gunna’s said:

Have we received a response to this?

If so, surely Lewis can flick some emails around for the players to sacrifice the salary cap required to keep Hogan and get May

Good question. It’s probably been mentioned somewhere in these 380 odd pages. Was this plan B for May if Jesse stayed? Or do we have someone else in mind and we’ve kept really quiet about it?

[Beetle 4,715]

21 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Just finished off a whole pack of dark choc royals and about to wash them down with a glass of rose’.

I don’t think life gets any better than this. 

If it was Caramel Crowns you wouldn’t have been able to post that due to a supreme euphoric state.

[Lord Travis 10,805]

26 minutes ago, Beetle said:

 

I know they’re just numbers but Jake Kolodjashnij was pick 41 in the same draft as Kade....stating the obvious, but there has to be something there that recruiters saw in Kade for him to be taken at 5.

Lets hope so anyway..

Pre-concussions Kade was a gun. Second in their BnF a few years back. He was on his way to being an All Australian standard half back flanker. Unfortunately he suffered multiple concussions and hasn’t been the same since. Hopefully our medical team will be able to work their magic like they did with Brayshaw. It may take time, but if he can get past the health issues and get back fulfilling his potential we’ll have an AA standard half back or winger on our hands. He’s an elite kick, has good pace and agility and isn’t afraid to go when his turn. He’s the biggest potential steal of the trade period.

[old55 23,848]

Far too much reference to "bending over" and "shafting" on this board.  Really have a think about it and grow up!