Round 23 Non MFC Games

[What 18,810]

  On 25/08/2018 at 12:30, red&blue1982 said:

I know, they just won't f#@k off!

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They used to make me sick.... they still do a bit as they aren't our mob,   but now it is just more admiration and maybe even a bit of awe. They are a great club who do nothing but win decade after decade.

And Clarkson may end up going down as the greatest coach of all time. I am sure some already think he is.

 

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[red&blue1982 255]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:33, Petraccattack said:

They used to make me sick.... they still do a bit as they arent our mob,   but now it is just more admiration and maybe even a bit of awe.

They are a great club who do nothing but win decade after decade.

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They have key understandings of what it takes to be successful. I think they also know at Hawthorn that they can't live of legacy like a lot of older clubs can, they have to be successful. 

What is that image you have on your profile pic?

[layzie 34,528]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:33, Petraccattack said:

They used to make me sick.... they still do a bit as they aren't our mob,   but now it is just more admiration and maybe even a bit of awe. They are a great club who do nothing but win decade after decade.

And Clarkson may end up going down as the greatest coach of all time. I am sure some already think he is.

 

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Yep, mostly admiration from me. Love to see excellence. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

 

 

[whatwhat say what 23,863]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:51, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

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no, i welcome the opportunity and challenge to take them on for a third time this year

we've blown it both times previous - third time's the charm!

both games so far this year have been super entertaining as a neutral as well

[Chook 15,069]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:51, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

 

 

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Hawthorn has violated us just as thoroughly over the years, only we haven't yet shown we can take it up to them.

I'd much rather play the Cats who we've come very close to besting twice this year than the Hawks who still have our measure.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

No we have beaten them 2 times without actually getting the points, surely the next time it will be an official win

[FireInTheBennelly 4,104]

  On 25/08/2018 at 09:31, SaberFang said:

He's gotten ahead of himself.

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Come on you guys, I know you love big Cox.

[layzie 34,528]

That’s ridiculous. We can reach for the stars! ?

[Gator 18,053]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:51, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

 

 

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Things have changed since we lost to them by under a goal in round 1.  There was no Viney, Brayshaw, vandenBerg, or Tom McDonald for starters.  Hogan was the only tall forward.  Salem wasn't playing behind the ball where he's best suited and our defensive structures were a mess.  Weideman can fill Hogan's role for the structure that best suits us and we're now used to being sans Lever, although it's far from ideal.

Down at the Cattery we outplayed them (without Lever) despite their massive home ground advantage, but just didn't get the job done.  

I'd love another crack at them.  Hawkins is the key.

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  On 25/08/2018 at 13:51, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

 

 

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I think for us to become a contender, we can fear noone.

Respect your opposition for sure. But fear drains confidence and will lead to defeat.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,509]

3 out 4 of Richmond’s last 4 games have been victories by 3, 3 and 8. Everyone is gettable this year. 

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,353]

So disappointing to see the filth win after the Dockers got so close.

I can only hope they go out in straight sets in the finals.

I hate the filth ...

[DubDee 26,676]

I’m not afraid of playing the cats at all. If those two after the siren kicks go our way MFC would be 2nd and Cats would be 12th!

they are overrated and their bottom 10 are average. 

[—coach— 3,496]

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:46, red&blue1982 said:

They have key understandings of what it takes to be successful. I think they also know at Hawthorn that they can't live of legacy like a lot of older clubs can, they have to be successful. 

What is that image you have on your profile pic?

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Looks like a deep sea fish to me, something like a Viperfish perhaps?

[pineapple dee 2,892]

  On 25/08/2018 at 21:32, bingers said:

So disappointing to see the filth win after the Dockers got so close.

I can only hope they go out in straight sets in the finals.

I hate the filth ...

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It's possible. Wet Toast in Perth is no one's idea of fun though we managed to knock them over. Question is, does the AFL deem it more important to get the filth into a prelim over the West Australian team ???

[Jibroni 5,058]

Have no fear at all of playing the feral cats, to have the opportunity to beat them in front of 80K would be sweet.

In other lose if West Coast lose today they will drop to fourth, not sure if we want his to happen.

[Dippy 17]

  On 25/08/2018 at 20:41, ProDee said:

Things have changed since we lost to them by under a goal in round 1.  There was no Viney, Brayshaw, vandenBerg, or Tom McDonald for starters.  Hogan was the only tall forward.  Salem wasn't playing behind the ball where he's best suited and our defensive structures were a mess.  Weideman can fill Hogan's role for the structure that best suits us and we're now used to being sans Lever, although it's far from ideal.

Down at the Cattery we outplayed them (without Lever) despite their massive home ground advantage, but just didn't get the job done.  

I'd love another crack at them.  Hawkins is the key.

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Hawkins is the key. He's in crazy good form. He wins marking contests, that he shouldn't. But controll and stop the middle, then hawkins gets dirt ball.

Bring on the cats.

 

[dl4e 5,851]

  On 25/08/2018 at 21:32, bingers said:

So disappointing to see the filth win after the Dockers got so close.

I can only hope they go out in straight sets in the finals.

I hate the filth ...

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Our feelings are mutual. The only way is if wet coke muck it up in Brisbane but I don’t think they will. So the filth and hawthorn can go out in strait sets and then go and thoroughly #$@& themselves.

[dieter 3,325]

  On 25/08/2018 at 21:33, DubDee said:

I’m not afraid of playing the cats at all. If those two after the siren kicks go our way MFC would be 2nd and Cats would be 12th!

they are overrated and their bottom 10 are average. 

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I'm not afraid of [censored] cats

They just eat mice and rats

But the hippopotamus

He could eat the lot of us.

--Spike Milligan

[Macca 17,127]

  On 25/08/2018 at 12:23, Hell Bent said:

Actually,  I just calculated if WC lose by 1 point their percentage will be well below both Haw n Col. 

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You're right HB ... any margin of defeat means the Eagles drop to 4th. 

Which in turn would put us on their side of the finals draw if they in turn then lost to the Tigers in a qualifying final (the winner of 5th vs 8th plays the loser of 1st vs 4th) 

And if the Eagles do lose today that means that they can't be drawn against Richmond in a preliminary final.  Same deal for us although we could (in theory) meet Richmond in week 2 of the finals or the GF. 

However ... if our game is drawn today we'd finish 7th and then play GWS in the first week of the finals (7th @ 6th) and then be on the other side of the finals draw ?

Edited August 26, 2018 by Macca

[titan_uranus 25,255]

I see better contenders in the bottom half of the 8 than the top.

I view Sydney, GWS (at their best), us and Geelong as equal to, if not better than, each of Hawthorn and Collingwood. West Coast and Richmond are gettable, albeit still the best two sides in it this year.

If they win their two qualifying finals and Collingwood and Hawthorn are hosting two of Syd/Mel/GWS/Geel, I see two highly competitive semi finals and at least one upset. 

Hawthorn struggled to put away Sydney without Franklin or Parker and which actually sucks at the SCG this year. Collingwood struggled to put away one of the least competitive sides in the comp and only got there due to said uncompetitive side committing horrendous skill errors at key times (e.g. Wilson's turnover, then that player in the forward half failing to kick it and getting caught).

  On 25/08/2018 at 06:20, Lucifer's Hero said:

What this shows is another distortion in the fixture.  Non-finals contending teams usually have youngsters who tire at seasons end, with nothing to play for.  They put the cue in the rack.  If finals contending teams get 2 or 3 games in the last few rounds vs them they can get easy wins/boost %.   Geelong have had two very easy wins and added about 20% to their percentage = Automatic entre to finals.   

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Rubbish.

Geelong had a horrendously tough fixture this year, repeating against Richmond, Hawthorn, Sydney, us and GC. That's four of the top 8 (if we win, it will be four of the top 6).

We repeated against Geelong, Adelaide, St Kilda, the Dogs and GC. That's three of the bottom six. 

It's a 22-game season. You qualify based on your 22-game result, not your last two. Geelong didn't make it because of their last two games, or their percentage. They made it because their 22-game result is better than 10 other sides.

Trying to remove "top v bottom" games at the end of the season would have robbed us of the Richmond v Dogs game yesterday, which was an absolute belter. Try telling Macrae, Hunter or Naughton that they had nothing to play for.

  On 25/08/2018 at 13:51, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is anyone else petrified of the prospect of  playing Geelong in a final.

This mob has bullied us into submission since 2007 and absolutely embarrassed us as a professional sporting organisation, like no other opposing club has.

And the 3 most recent matches we’ve played against them, we’ve given it our absolute best shot and still come short. Hasn’t helped that Geelong have kicked 50.22 in stupidly lucky accuracy.

And finally....Dangerfield.

I think we’re a better chance leaving the G and taking on GWS.

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Not at all. Geelong is as good an opponent as I can see in the 8, IMO.

[red&blue1982 255]

  On 26/08/2018 at 01:11, titan_uranus said:

I see better contenders in the bottom half of the 8 than the top.

I view Sydney, GWS (at their best), us and Geelong as equal to, if not better than, each of Hawthorn and Collingwood. West Coast and Richmond are gettable, albeit still the best two sides in it this year.

If they win their two qualifying finals and Collingwood and Hawthorn are hosting two of Syd/Mel/GWS/Geel, I see two highly competitive semi finals and at least one upset. 

Hawthorn struggled to put away Sydney without Franklin or Parker and which actually sucks at the SCG this year. Collingwood struggled to put away one of the least competitive sides in the comp and only got there due to said uncompetitive side committing horrendous skill errors at key times (e.g. Wilson's turnover, then that player in the forward half failing to kick it and getting caught).

Rubbish.

Geelong had a horrendously tough fixture this year, repeating against Richmond, Hawthorn, Sydney, us and GC. That's four of the top 8 (if we win, it will be four of the top 6).

We repeated against Geelong, Adelaide, St Kilda, the Dogs and GC. That's three of the bottom six. 

It's a 22-game season. You qualify based on your 22-game result, not your last two. Geelong didn't make it because of their last two games, or their percentage. They made it because their 22-game result is better than 10 other sides.

Trying to remove "top v bottom" games at the end of the season would have robbed us of the Richmond v Dogs game yesterday, which was an absolute belter. Try telling Macrae, Hunter or Naughton that they had nothing to play for.

Not at all. Geelong is as good an opponent as I can see in the 8, IMO.

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We've proven we can beat Geelong. I'm more worried about Hawthorn , Richmond, Sydney.

[buck_nekkid 6,103]

  On 26/08/2018 at 01:23, red&blue1982 said:

We've proven we can beat Geelong. I'm more worried about Hawthorn , Richmond, Sydney.

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I’m worried about all of them.  I’m also excited that we get the chance to be worried in September!

there should be no gimmes from here.  Best footy or you go home stuff.  Our best can get it done against any in the 8, but will we bring it?

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

  On 26/08/2018 at 01:23, red&blue1982 said:

We've proven we can beat Geelong. 

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Have we?

The record books state we’ve beaten them once in 12 years.