Jump to content

Coaches: Who should we Target?

Engorged Onion

By Engorged Onion
in Melbourne Demons

 Share

Recommended Posts

Engorged Onion Trident

Engorged Onion   10,120

Posted
Posted

*not merely as sexy as who we should target player wise.

It's easy to draw inferences on players skills sets, acumen and talent - harder to draw a line on coaches, particularly all the assistant ones from afar.

I stumbled across Brett Ratten leaving Hawthorn a few minutes ago - and thought to myself - that I've always rated him, as a person and as a coach, can't tell you why, just a sense... wouldn't mind getting him on board again at the Dee's.

But, in one - out another - and without character assassinating people/coaches I've never met - has anyone got a version of a champion data write up for our assistant coaches ;) - I hear from some Demonlanders that Troy Chaplin, shouldn't be retained etc etc...

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Engorged Onion Trident

Engorged Onion   10,120

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Deeoldfart said:

The cynic in me says Rattan out, Mitchell in.  Time will tell.

mmmm quite possible now that i draw a few lines together...

Edited by Danelska
Link to comment
Share on other sites
scarlett Mighty Demon

scarlett   247

Posted
Posted

Ratten did well with our midfield a number of years ago. Not sure he's had anything to do with a backline if your looking at removing Chaplin. Yze has worked his way up under Clarkson from part time goal kicking coach to defensive coach. Another option would be to poach Matthew Scarlett. Or perhaps myself.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

D4Life Redleg

D4Life   2,405

Posted
Posted

Ratten was a great midfield coach for the Demons.

Wellman was a brilliant backline coach for the Demons, organised everything we currently struggle with doing:

- Don’t all go up for the punch

- someone stay near goalsquare

- backline hold back six structure rather than getting too high

- track the crumbing forwards around ballups & throwins in the forward line

He also did the same for Bombers under Hird.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Go the Biff Redleg

Go the Biff   3,360

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, D4Life said:

Ratten was a great midfield coach for the Demons.

Wellman was a brilliant backline coach for the Demons, organised everything we currently struggle with doing:

- Don’t all go up for the punch

- someone stay near goalsquare

- backline hold back six structure rather than getting too high

- track the crumbing forwards around ballups & throwins in the forward line

He also did the same for Bombers under Hird.

Used to love watching & listening to him when he took the defensive group for training & drills. Was spewin' when he left.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dr. Gonzo Legend

Dr. Gonzo   23,699

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, D4Life said:

Ratten was a great midfield coach for the Demons.

Wellman was a brilliant backline coach for the Demons, organised everything we currently struggle with doing:

- Don’t all go up for the punch

- someone stay near goalsquare

- backline hold back six structure rather than getting too high

- track the crumbing forwards around ballups & throwins in the forward line

He also did the same for Bombers under Hird.

Wellman was a massive loss - turned Frawley into an AA then after he left went back to being just a handy player

Link to comment
Share on other sites

whatwhat say what Legend

whatwhat say what   22,086

Posted
Posted

As a general rule clubs look to employ people that senior coaches have worked with previously, hence why we have Matt Egan as part of our set up and there was talk for a time that Scott ‘that traitorous so-and-so’ Thompson  may lob at the Dees

I would love Mitchell or Ratten but I’m expecting - like many - that the former will be at Hawks next year but I actually think the latter might head to Brisbane 

I’m more interested in what we do re football manager if Mahoney was to leave

Link to comment
Share on other sites
pineapple dee Redleg

pineapple dee   2,892

Posted
Posted

I wouldn't be putting any great amount of money on Mitchell to go back to Hawthorn. Don't be surprised if he comes to us and works with Goodwin. Would that it were truly so. How good would our midfield become with Mitchell's input.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lucifers Hero Legend

Lucifers Hero   38,968

Posted
Posted (edited)

Not sure where to put this article.  It is info only - not to remotely imply a need to target anyone.

16 of 18 coaches participated in survey.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-03/is-it-the-tigers-to-lose-coaches-pick-premiers

 

 

Can't disagree with that rating.  Clarkson really worked us over earlier this year.  That is why I really hope they don't make or we don't meet them in the finals.

As an aside, I read today that Clarkson is waiting till end of year to progress his contract talks.  Would be very surprised if he leaves Hawks.

Edited by Lucifers Hero
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SFebes Redleg

SFebes   4,860

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not sure where to put this: 

16 of 18 coaches participated in survey.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-03/is-it-the-tigers-to-lose-coaches-pick-premiers

 

image.thumb.png.ca86e1f0048727d1b49f875baad26f1b.png

Can't disagree with that rating.  Clarkson really worked us over earlier this year.  That is why I really hope they don't make or we don't meet them in the finals.

As an aside, I read today that Clarkson is waiting till end of year to progress his contract talks.  Would be very surprised if he leaves Hawks.

Image result for alastair clarkson demons

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Demon17 Redleg

Demon17   5,047

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, Matt Demon said:

Mitchell has a very close relationship with Todd Viney & Jordan Lewis. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up at Melbourne.

Interestingly at the airport Simpson was asked by media about the loss of mitchell to coaching team. He responded low key saying he was just finishing his first year - no big deal. My preference is for experience.  Rattan was brilliant and had the midfield firing when he was under daniher. When he left it was noticeable.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Demon trucker Redleg

Demon trucker   1,800

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Caro hammering Mitchell departure at WCE in The Age. Claims he's going to Haw to be Clarkson's apprentice for next 4 years

If I was Sam I would be going to another club then the hawks, he has all ready learnt enough from Alistair. If he goes  to the hawks maybe he takes over from Alistair, that would be a big mistake, the hardest thing in coaching any sport team is taking over from a master coach. Think of all the failed coaches at teams when they have taken charge after a super coach, after sir Alex Ferguson at man u fail, Mathew knights after Kevin seedy fail, Voss after Mathews fail,  why the rush to be head coach I think he should be a assistant for at least 5 years and coach a vfl side has well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

whatwhat say what Legend

whatwhat say what   22,086

Posted
Posted
36 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

If I was Sam I would be going to another club then the hawks, he has all ready learnt enough from Alistair. If he goes  to the hawks maybe he takes over from Alistair, that would be a big mistake, the hardest thing in coaching any sport team is taking over from a master coach. Think of all the failed coaches at teams when they have taken charge after a super coach, after sir Alex Ferguson at man u fail, Mathew knights after Kevin seedy fail, Voss after Mathews fail,  why the rush to be head coach I think he should be a assistant for at least 5 years and coach a vfl side has well.

roos after eade? longmire after roos? 

(goodwin after roos...)

plus whingy whiny scott of the cat variety got a premiership first up after taking over from bomber thompson

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Demon trucker Redleg

Demon trucker   1,800

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

roos after eade? longmire after roos? 

(goodwin after roos...)

plus whingy whiny scott of the cat variety got a premiership first up after taking over from bomber thompson

Rocket not a super coach no flags. Roos a good coach but 1 flag does not make a super coach. Scott at Geelong took over a great super side, anyone could have coached that side to a flag, no grand finals since, his not a fail but just ordinary, am talking about supersides who have won heaps of flags not non or 1 flag like roos and rocket, You are easy pleased to call rocket and roos as super coach, a bit like calling Robert Murphy  a great of the game, good players but great.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    GETAWAY by Meggs

    Calling all fit players. Expect every available Melbourne player to board the Virgin cross-continent flight to Perth for this Round 4 clash on Saturday afternoon at Fremantle Oval. It promises to be keenly contested, though Fremantle is the bookies clear favourite.  If we lose, finals could be remoter than Rottnest Island especially following on from the Dees 50-point dismantlement by North Melbourne last Sunday.  There are 8 remaining matches, over the next 7 weeks.  To Meggs’

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    DRUBBING by Meggs

    With Casey Fields basking in sunshine, an enthusiastic throng of young Demons fans formed a guard of honour for the evergreen and much admired 75-gamer Paxy Paxman. As the home team ran out to play, Paxy’s banner promised that the Demons would bounce back from last week’s loss to Brisbane and reign supreme.   Disappointingly, the Kangaroos dominated the match to win by 50 points, but our Paxy certainly did her bit.  She was clearly our best player, sweeping well in defence.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 4

    GARNER STRENGTH by Meggs

    In keeping with our tough draw theme, Week 3 sees Melbourne take on flag favourites, North Melbourne, at Casey Fields this Sunday at 1:05pm.  The weather forecast looks dry, a coolish 14 degrees and will be characteristically gusty.  Remember when Casey Fields was considered our fortress?  The Demons have lost two of their past three matches at the Field of Dreams, so opposition teams commute down the Princes Highway with more optimism these days.  The Dees held the highe

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 1

    ALLY’S FIELDS by Meggs

    It was a sunny morning at Casey Fields, as Demon supporters young and old formed a guard of honour for fan favourite and 50-gamer Alyssa Bannan.  Banno’s banner stated the speedster was the ‘fastest 50 games’ by an AFLW player ever.   For Dees supporters, today was not our day and unfortunately not for Banno either. A couple of opportunities emerged for our number 6 but alas there was no sizzle.   Brisbane atoned for last week’s record loss to North Melbourne, comprehensively out

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 1

    GOOD MORNING by Meggs

    If you are driving or training it to Cranbourne on Saturday, don’t forget to set your alarm clock. The Melbourne Demons play the reigning premiers Brisbane Lions at Casey Fields this Saturday, with the bounce of the ball at 11:05am.  Yes, that’s AM.   The AFLW fixture shows deference to the AFL men’s finals games.  So, for the men it’s good afternoon and good evening and for the women it’s good morning.     The Lions were wounded last week by 44 points, their highest ever los

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    HORE ON FIRE by Meggs

    The 40,000 seat $319 million redeveloped Kardinia Park Stadium was nowhere near capacity last night but the strong, noisy contingent of Melbourne supporters led by the DeeArmy journeyed to Geelong to witness a high-quality battle between two of the best teams in AFLW.   The Cats entered the arena to the blasting sounds of Zombie Nation and made a hot start kicking the first 2 goals. They brought tremendous forward half pressure, and our newly renovated defensive unit looked shaky.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 11

    REMATCH by Meggs

    The Mighty Demons take on the confident Cats this Saturday night at the recently completed $319 million redeveloped GMHBA Stadium, with the bounce of the ball at 7:15pm. Our last game of 2023 was an agonisingly close 5-point semi-final loss to Geelong, and we look forward to Melbourne turning the tables this week. Practice match form was scratchy for both teams with the Demons losing practice matches to Carlton and Port Adelaide, while the Cats beat Collingwood but then lost to Essendo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    WELCOME 2024 by Meggs

    It’s been hard to miss the seismic global momentum happening in Women’s sport of late. The Matildas have been playing to record sell-out crowds across Australia and ‘Mary Fowler is God’ is chalked onto footpaths everywhere. WNBA basketball rookie sensation Caitlin Clark has almost single-handedly elevated her Indiana Fever team to unprecedented viewership, attendances and playoffs in the USA.   Our female Aussie Paris 2024 Olympians won 13 out of Australia’s all-time record 18 gol

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    EPILOGUE by Whispering Jack

    I sit huddled in near darkness, the only light coming through flickering embers in a damp fireplace, the room in total silence after the thunderstorm died. I wonder if they bothered to restart the game.  No point really. It was over before it started. The team’s five star generals in defence and midfield ruled out of the fray, a few others missing in action against superior enemy firepower and too few left to fly the flag for the field marshal defiantly leading his outnumbered army int

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 6

  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...