1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

??? You have no idea

I think @Engorged Onion was being sarcastic.

The beauty of having loving connected relationships within the club, and fostering loving connected relationships external from the club over many many years. This is the unrewarded and unseen work that goes on within the industry, that allows these trades to happen.

Yeah I like this deal on the surface

cannot understand why we needed to drop four places in the second round this year.

Marginal negotiation skills demonstrated again given we had the PSD card.

Still better than giving away this years second that so many here were happy with

 

Welcome Ed!!!

Thought we’d keep 22 and use later round pick upgrades but I don’t hate this deal. Just think the extra value of pick 22 comes with teams looking to trade up on the 2nd night of the draft.

win plenty of games next year and this will be a bargain 

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

cannot understand why we needed to drop four places in the second round this year.

Marginal negotiation skills demonstrated again given we had the PSD card.

Still better than giving away this years second that so many here were happy with

4 places in the second round?  On the success rate of second round picks, our chances of landing a good player dropped from about 40% to about...40%.  Draft picks are a mugs currency

2 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

4 places in the second round?  On the success rate of second round picks, our chances of landing a good player dropped from about 40% to about...40%.  Draft picks are a mugs currency

Partially agree on the probabilities  but see no reason to give up the advantage.

We desperately need to recruit some quality youngsters and we need every advantage we can get

I happened to be listening to Nick Dal Santo on Trade Radio earlier this morning and he went through the picks from 15 onwards in all drafts from 2008-2016.

Very few of them end up playing 100 games and forging reasonable careers. It was 1 in 5 or something along those lines.

I think known quantities to fill specific needs is the ideal scenario, once outside the top 10-15

 

Very happy with this.

Happy with this deal. 

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

We desperately need to recruit some quality youngsters and we need every advantage we can get

We just have recruited 2 quality young players (Langers and Tomlinson) Diamond.

I would much rather trade like this in that u know what u are getting than risk going through the draft especially with our track record.  

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by DemonOX

Winner winner.  Great deal. He’s a gun and happy with the deal.  

Yessssssss. Well done Mahoney and team.

Unsure what the point of swapping around 22 and 26 is - that type of trade to me is such a trivial difference that it strikes me as pandering to the petty, but whatever gets it done. 

Proof of @AshleyH30‘s point in the Frost thread - got to look at the complete picture rather than trades in isolation. No doubting we’ve improved our list in this period so far.

3 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I happened to be listening to Nick Dal Santo on Trade Radio earlier this morning and he went through the picks from 15 onwards in all drafts from 2008-2016.

Very few of them end up playing 100 games and forging reasonable careers. It was 1 in 5 or something along those lines.

I think known quantities to fill specific needs is the ideal scenario, once outside the top 10-15

 

it's actually slightly lower than one in five and near one in six who reach 100 games.

Only one in three reach 50.

AFL is a tough gig and is by no means a gravy train for the vast bulk of players

 

So right now as we sit, we have,

Pick 3, 26, 50 + Langdon and Tomlinson. 

A great trade period so far from Mahoney.

3 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

We just have recruited 2 quality young players (Langers and Tomlinson) Diamond.

I would much rather trade like this in that u know what u are getting than risk going through the draft especially with our track record.  

Spot on. The draft is always going to have an element of the unknown. With trading you know what you’ll get. 

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Unsure what the point of swapping around 22 and 26 is - that type of trade to me is such a trivial difference that it strikes me as pandering to the petty

 

Just now, Lord Nev said:

 

Haha, exactly.

Whats the overall ins and outs?

Kept Hawks future 2nd and gave away ours. Here's hoping the Hawks finish in the bottom 4.  

1 minute ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Kept Hawks future 2nd and gave away ours. Here's hoping the Hawks finish in the bottom 4.  

I do like that we are backing ourselves in here....

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

But where’s that feather in his cap??

1 minute ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Kept Hawks future 2nd and gave away ours. Here's hoping the Hawks finish in the bottom 4.  

I wonder how that decision gets made? Do you reckon it means we’re backing ourselves to finish higher than the Hawks, or am I reading too much into it?

I think there’s more certainty in the Hawks one. They are likely to be a mid table team again, as they have been for a while now.