May the Aints keep pushing 

They thrive on loose cannons

Either they want him or they don’t. The Code of Conduct should be written in such a way that additional clauses for one player aren’t required. Extra behavioural clauses are a load of [censored]. 

Acting like a WEAK footy club.

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Either they want him or they don’t. The Code of Conduct should be written in such a way that additional clauses for one player aren’t required. Extra behavioural clauses are a load of [censored]. 

Yes I would have thought all contracts have Behavioral Standards written in them. 
Maybe they are asking DeG to sleep in a locked cage every night 

I'm not surprised that De Goey is pushing back against any ambiguity in his contract. Collingwood have repeatedly shown in recent years that their contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. Treloar and Grundy are prime examples of this.

You wouldn't want to get two years into a contract, have Collingwood decide they don't want you any more, and then have the contract torn up because you sneeze in a meeting or something equally trivial.

Confucius said that laws should be broadly based on ethics to make them enforceable. Narrowly defined and precise laws have too many loopholes. Would this philosophy apply to contracts? 

Edited September 27, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I would have thought all contracts have Behavioral Standards written in them. 
Maybe they are asking DeG to sleep in a locked cage every night 

Might be the only way!

 

Out of interest, if a player such as JDG did breach the behavioural standards in their contract and (due to pressure from sponsors) the pies decide to rely on the clause and sack him.

If St Kilda still want him the next season do they have to trade with Collingwood or do they draft him or ??

Just makes collingwood look silly, the fact that they have to have a different behavior clause just for DeGoey does not say much for their existing one. The fact that they have watered down his behavior clause a couple of times to the point that he would have to do something very very serious to trigger that clause just shows how quick they are backing away, but still trying to save face. Hope he keeps telling them no to the clause...

Heard on AFL Exchange if say St Kilda made an offer and Collingwood matched then that could be a way to drop the clauses as well? 

6 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Didn’t say that Axis. No doubt he has made poor decisions in the past, and deserved to pay the price for them.

I am saying moving forward, can understand why he doesn’t want to have additional clauses vs all other AFL players, when everyone will be watching his every move. 

 

Wouldn't be because him and Grundy don't get on, would it?

1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said:

Out of interest, if a player such as JDG did breach the behavioural standards in their contract and (due to pressure from sponsors) the pies decide to rely on the clause and sack him.

If St Kilda still want him the next season do they have to trade with Collingwood or do they draft him or ??

All trades have to be approved by the AFL and Cats

One for the  'I'm offended by modern society and overreacting' crowd...

 

Isn’t part of the issue here that apart from individual base remuneration and incentives, player contracts are standardised (agreed by AFL & AFLPA)? If these clauses allow termination (rather than provide financial incentive) the whole applecart gets turned over.

Edited September 27, 20222 yr by ChaserJ

Who the bloody hell do wobbles think they are.First...no sitting down on the ground  after the contest...unless your dead.

Now special cases.... no more naughty boy corner.You play your next four games for nothing.

I'm getting Assumption/ Killigrew. like vibes here..

My mail is McStay goes and DeGoey stays.

17 minutes ago, chookrat said:

My mail is McStay goes and DeGoey stays.

Interesting. I was speaking to someone who had family connections with McStay and he was apparently signed and sealed from March this year

31 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Interesting. I was speaking to someone who had family connections with McStay and he was apparently signed and sealed from March this year

i think it was a play on words 🤣

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

i think it was a play on words 🤣

Straight over my head!

The Pies should sign De Goey to a 7 year deal and then get rid of him after 2 years

then they could be paying almost a million a year for players not at their club 😂

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

One for the  'I'm offended by modern society and overreacting' crowd...

 

The face only a mother could love. Imagine bringing that home to show your parents. 

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i think it was a play on words 🤣

The hint is in the names 😉

Is DeGoey's father still his manager? If so, all this behavioural clause baloney could have been avoided if his did his job as a father!

As of right now I'd say the only loser in all this will be St Kilda (apart from Collingwood's ego).