Sir Why You Little 37,478 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 May the Aints keep pushing They thrive on loose cannons 2 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,393 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Either they want him or they don’t. The Code of Conduct should be written in such a way that additional clauses for one player aren’t required. Extra behavioural clauses are a load of [censored]. 2 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Acting like a WEAK footy club. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,478 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: Either they want him or they don’t. The Code of Conduct should be written in such a way that additional clauses for one player aren’t required. Extra behavioural clauses are a load of [censored]. Yes I would have thought all contracts have Behavioral Standards written in them. Maybe they are asking DeG to sleep in a locked cage every night Quote
poita 3,945 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 I'm not surprised that De Goey is pushing back against any ambiguity in his contract. Collingwood have repeatedly shown in recent years that their contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. Treloar and Grundy are prime examples of this. You wouldn't want to get two years into a contract, have Collingwood decide they don't want you any more, and then have the contract torn up because you sneeze in a meeting or something equally trivial. 3 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,893 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) Confucius said that laws should be broadly based on ethics to make them enforceable. Narrowly defined and precise laws have too many loopholes. Would this philosophy apply to contracts? Edited September 27, 2022 by John Crow Batty 1 Quote
old dee 24,084 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: Yes I would have thought all contracts have Behavioral Standards written in them. Maybe they are asking DeG to sleep in a locked cage every night Might be the only way! 1 Quote
deelusions from afar 1,894 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Out of interest, if a player such as JDG did breach the behavioural standards in their contract and (due to pressure from sponsors) the pies decide to rely on the clause and sack him. If St Kilda still want him the next season do they have to trade with Collingwood or do they draft him or ?? Quote
Deecisive 1,709 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just makes collingwood look silly, the fact that they have to have a different behavior clause just for DeGoey does not say much for their existing one. The fact that they have watered down his behavior clause a couple of times to the point that he would have to do something very very serious to trigger that clause just shows how quick they are backing away, but still trying to save face. Hope he keeps telling them no to the clause... 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Heard on AFL Exchange if say St Kilda made an offer and Collingwood matched then that could be a way to drop the clauses as well? 2 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 6 hours ago, 1964_2 said: Didn’t say that Axis. No doubt he has made poor decisions in the past, and deserved to pay the price for them. I am saying moving forward, can understand why he doesn’t want to have additional clauses vs all other AFL players, when everyone will be watching his every move. Wouldn't be because him and Grundy don't get on, would it? Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said: Out of interest, if a player such as JDG did breach the behavioural standards in their contract and (due to pressure from sponsors) the pies decide to rely on the clause and sack him. If St Kilda still want him the next season do they have to trade with Collingwood or do they draft him or ?? All trades have to be approved by the AFL and Cats 1 2 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 One for the 'I'm offended by modern society and overreacting' crowd... Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) Isn’t part of the issue here that apart from individual base remuneration and incentives, player contracts are standardised (agreed by AFL & AFLPA)? If these clauses allow termination (rather than provide financial incentive) the whole applecart gets turned over. Edited September 27, 2022 by ChaserJ 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Who the bloody hell do wobbles think they are.First...no sitting down on the ground after the contest...unless your dead. Now special cases.... no more naughty boy corner.You play your next four games for nothing. I'm getting Assumption/ Killigrew. like vibes here.. Quote
chookrat 4,268 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 My mail is McStay goes and DeGoey stays. 2 12 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, chookrat said: My mail is McStay goes and DeGoey stays. Interesting. I was speaking to someone who had family connections with McStay and he was apparently signed and sealed from March this year 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,022 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, BW511 said: Interesting. I was speaking to someone who had family connections with McStay and he was apparently signed and sealed from March this year i think it was a play on words 🤣 1 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, daisycutter said: i think it was a play on words 🤣 Straight over my head! 2 Quote
DubDee 26,720 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 The Pies should sign De Goey to a 7 year deal and then get rid of him after 2 years then they could be paying almost a million a year for players not at their club 😂 1 Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,986 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Nev said: One for the 'I'm offended by modern society and overreacting' crowd... The face only a mother could love. Imagine bringing that home to show your parents. Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, daisycutter said: i think it was a play on words 🤣 The hint is in the names 😉 1 Quote
dee-tox 4,835 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Is DeGoey's father still his manager? If so, all this behavioural clause baloney could have been avoided if his did his job as a father! Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 As of right now I'd say the only loser in all this will be St Kilda (apart from Collingwood's ego). Quote
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