8 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Absolutely unbelievable that he is only 20.

So lucky to have him.

Tyson>Oliver.

This is a better comparison, at the same age, Oliver's current age.                   - Footywire table

 

Player Statistics Comparison   Clayton Oliver Name Patrick Cripps Melbourne Demons Team Carlton Blues Midfield Position Midfield 43 Career Games 67 Murray Bushrangers Origin East Fremantle July 22, 1997 Date of Birth March 18, 1995 20yr 9mth Age Turned 21 in 2016 187cm Height 195cm 83kg Weight 93kg 2015 National Draft Last Drafted In 2013 National Draft Round 1, Pick #4 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #13 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Carlton Blues 2018 Stats for Season 2016 8 Games 21 9.4 Kicks Per Game 8.4 18.9 Handballs Per Game 18.6 28.2 Disposals Per Game 26.9 2.9 Marks Per Game 3.2 0.5 Goals Per Game 0.5 0.5 Behinds Per Game 0.7 7.9 Tackles Per Game 6.6 0 Hitouts Per Game 1.7 4.4 Inside 50s Per Game 2.9 1.0 Goal Assists Per Game 0.4 1.6 Frees For Per Game 1.6 1.5 Frees Against Per Game 1.9 16.5 Contested Possessions Per Game 16.9 11.9 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 10.2 20.6 Effective Disposals Per Game 19.4 73% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 72.1% 4.1 Clangers Per Game 3.9 0.4 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3 0.4 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.4 7.5 Clearances Per Game 8.8 1.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 1.1 1.8 One Percenters Per Game 0.8 0.4 Bounces Per Game 0.6 82.4 Time On Ground % Per Game 83.8 2.9 Centre Clearances Per Game 3.5 4.6 Stoppage Clearances Per Game 5.3 7.4 Score Involvements Per Game 5.3 343.8 Metres Gained Per Game 177.4 3.8 Turnovers Per Game 3.5 4.2 Intercepts Per Game 2.6 1.5 Tackles Inside 50 Per Game 1.3 106.6 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 99.5 116.5 Supercoach Score Per Game 107.6

Clarrie will win a Brownlow first!?

Imagine if Carlton took Oliver instead of Weitering, they wouldn't lose a clearance.

oliver is the best mid i've seen in red and blue and he's only 20

absolute freak of a footballer

1 hour ago, BigFez said:

Seems Carlton and their supporters are looking forward to this one because of Lewis and Hogan's strikes last year.  Reckon it will be hot early.

We played them again later in the year and beat them by 2 goals (ANB to Lewis with 30 seconds left who kicked a goal).

Both are outstanding players and will be stars of the competition for many years to come. I'm more than happy with Oliver, but I suspect Cripps might benefit from having some quality around him and from getting a full season in.

If the 2013 draft was re-ranked Cripps probably sits top 3 with Kelly & Bontempelli - a fair few clubs would be regretting not taking him with a top 10 pick.

Oliver is surely the best player from the 2015 draft by a fair margin - thanks Sydney for matching our bid for Mills.

If you listed a Clarry v any other player in the comp, I would choose Oliver.

 

Yes, I'm serious.

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Oliver...for obvious reasons. He's MELBOURNE

That other fellow plays for scum.( Goes ok though ...no silverware for him )

Let's see if he, Cripps, goes out onto the ground on Sunday, in a manner that was to be expected to be required from him, from Gerard Healy's team. after last year's skirmish.......supposedly.

By my reckoning it's 2-0 to Cripps with one wipeout, but that's somewhat expected given young Clayton was taking on a senior footballer. But now that Clayton is a mature young man, he should be able to hold his own at clearances and his superior speed and kicking means he should be more damaging overall. Both great players. Oliver closing in on superstardom.

2016 - MCG: Blues win, 18-year-old Clayton schooled by Cripps who gives Gibbs a birthday treat.

2017 -  MCG: Blues about to win with Cripps unstoppable before the elbow of Jordy intervenes. 

Etihad - Evenly matched until Jayden intervenes to send Cripps on his way.

One is an absolute superstar of the competition already, and has a lot of elite footy ahead of him.  He will go down as a club best.

The other?  Well, he is the above too, but has a little bit extra.  What's that?  He wears red and blue, and he does things with the football that I've never seen any other red and blue player do.

Will be worth the price of entry this weekend just to see these two doing their thing. Feels a little like a heavyweight bout with Cripps holding the belt and the brash 20 year old seeking to take it off him.

It's still crazy to me how Cripps is the same height as Hogan and Weideman

6 hours ago, ManDee said:

Game time this season is interesting, as is metres gained. I think they are both great players but given the choice I would take Oliver every time. He is the best young player I have seen.  ---Table from footywire.

Cripps                                                                                                                                                                 Oliver

89.1	Time On Ground % Per Game	82.4
3.4	Centre Clearances Per Game	2.9
4.8	Stoppage Clearances Per Game	4.6
5.1	Score Involvements Per Game	7.4
247.0	Metres Gained Per Game	343.8
4.6	Turnovers Per Game	3.8
2.5	Intercepts Per Game	4.2
0.9	Tackles Inside 50 Per Game	1.5

 

Dem figgers mean ahellavalot, Boss. 

5 hours ago, BigFez said:

Seems Carlton and their supporters are looking forward to this one because of Lewis and Hogan's strikes last year.  Reckon it will be hot early.

Just wonder if Lewis can do it again?

A man of his experience and football know-how will be familiar with ground revisited.

It's still the same target (jaw), at the same location, elevation and physical topography, so I reckon we could set him a task for this weekend and he would not need a map and compass to triangulate such an impact, surely? 

Clarry is a superstar!!!!

9 hours ago, binman said:

I do too and hit the like button to reflect that. But like is different to agree.

We need some more buttons. An agree one. A disagree one. And a what you taking about Willis, i'm confused one.  

And a face palm

2 hours ago, dworship said:

And a face palm

Nothing beats a double head palm and double nose block. 

11 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

The other thing we should all take out of the stats is this:

Thank the football Gods we took Oliver and not Darcy Parish.

I believe this is when we perfected the drafting science. Whatever Melbourne would’ve done in the past, do the opposite. 

Well Clarrie is an emerging super star.  I've had too much red to even contemplate Cripps, so Clarrie wins hands down from my pov.

No poll disappointing. Clarry is better by a long way this year. He will be AA while Cripps won't.

2 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I believe this is when we perfected the drafting science. Whatever Melbourne would’ve done in the past, do the opposite. 

id take parish over both clarry and cripps, if we're choosing who would make the best altar boy.

Edited May 18, 20186 yr by John Demonic

9 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I believe this is when we perfected the drafting science. Whatever Melbourne would’ve done in the past, do the opposite. 

I feel like there have been a lot of highlight touted juniors who have struggled to live up to their pre-draft hype over the past decade.

Edited May 18, 20186 yr by Clint Bizkit

19 hours ago, Demonland said:

Nothing beats a double head palm and double nose block. 

Melbourne players react to the West Coast—Adelaide game in Round 23 last year.