Out: about 30k from attending this game 

I thought Frost cost us momentum at the end of the first Q and again at the start of the 2nd Q....he has absolutely no football IQ.

Honestly should not play again unless we are down on numbers.

We won't need him against the Tiges so Hunt should come back in.

Bugg's skills and poor decisions also cost around the same time when we had them on the mat.

Hannan back for Bugg.

...and Tyson back if recovered from virus.

For those wondering about the value of Tyson, then look at the game today and see how much help Oliver got around the middle.

Pedo has to come back in. a better back up ruck option than Harmes and he can also go forward and kick a goal. 

Tyson and Hunt in. For the rest, don't believe it actually matters all that much. We didn't lose today because we chose player X over player Y.

I for one was really keen to get Frost into the side. Just thought the he would help Lever. He is the dumbest footballer. Thinks he's a tough guy, but has little to no skill. Gets caught out of position, doesn't run hard enough in both directions and constantly gives away simple free kicks. Needs to go. 

Lever made some absolutely shocking errors today, but wasn't the only one. There were a couple of times he got smashed for putting his body on the line, the same can't be said for half our other defenders. Is he playing like a $800k defender? No. Is he playing like a guy worth two first round picks? No. He looks completely devoid of confidence. Not sure whether it's better to persevere or to send him to Casey to get some confidence. I'd say persevere for now. If he gets destroyed on ANZAC eve then they have to make the call.

My problem is we have too many of the same type of player in the forward line. Harmes, ANB, Melksham & Bugg (and Kent but he is at least effective at the moment). They are rotating through the midfield and high half forward and today they were all pretty average. ANB looks ok on the stats sheet, not sure how effective he actually was. 

 

Anyway, I would say -

 

In - Tyson, Hunt, Perderson, Hannan

 

Out - Frost, Melksham, Harmes, Bugg 

ANB is an absolute potato. He could have 40 touches and none of them would be any good. 

9 minutes ago, rjay said:

For those wondering about the value of Tyson, then look at the game today and see how much help Oliver got around the middle.

Yes, especially as Jones was busy with Mitchell. But Salem was OK - as many clearances as Oliver. Really missing Viney.

Disappointed in Lewis today.

Saw no evidence of physical disturbance of his ex team mates.

Very very disappointed in him.

 

What a disappointing game it just makes me wonder if we will ever make the finals.

B: LEVER, O.MCDONALD, J.LEWIS

HB: HIBBERD, FROST, HUNT

C: JONES, OLIVER, PETRACCA'

HF: KENT, PEDERSEN, NEAL-BULLEN

F: GARLETT, HOGAN, HANNAN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, SALEM

IC: STRETCH, BUGG, J.WAGNER, BRAYSHAW

EMERG: WEIDEMAN, VINCE, JETTA, FRITSCH

IN: HUNT, PEDERSEN, HANNAN, TYSON, STRETCH

OUT: VINCE, JETTA, FRITSCH, HARMES,  MELKSHAM

Next week I want more run for the whole game, we were tired to the extreme in the last 10 minutes. Just watched the hawks train around our hats.

and no bloody fumbles  pick it up clean

Go Dees !!

WGAS who comes in.

Another smashing is imminent.

Jetta and Melksham must be dropped both have been shocking this year.

23 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Pedo has to come back in. a better back up ruck option than Harmes and he can also go forward and kick a goal. 

Surely Harmes rucking was Badloss taking the p155

42 minutes ago, President Dee Trump said:

Prediction: 100 point slaughter of dees.

We will be breathing fire and do an Essendon and win. Pedo to kick 6.

8 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Jetta and Melksham must be dropped both have been shocking this year.

Both a shadow of themselves at their best, not sure if they live to fight another day. 

Our biggest asset is our biggest weakness.. We have so many B grade players we cant fit them all in the side where as other teams need to play C graders or worse. B graders are great,  they can perform well on any day but they cant be relied on to win you games. We just don't have enough A graders that perform week in, week out. Gawn, Hogan and Oliver cant just do it all alone. And our other A grader, Viney is weeks away even if he doesn't have another setback. Hibbard and Lever both should be close to if no at A grade level but are so far off their best. Until we get more players that are reliable Goody is stuck with the impossible job of predicting which 18 B/C graders will perform on a particular week. If you assume Tyson returns from illness, you could mount a case for any of Hannan, Stretch, Pedo, Weid, Hunt, Maynard, Balic, Smith x2 coming in and playing well. But it's anyone's guess who.

In :    Tyson, Hunt, Hannan, 

Out :  Lewis, Harmes, Melkshem, 

Everyone could go except Kent and Gawn for mine! 

Can someone who attends fill me in on Harmes' role this year? He was slowing improving last year after settling forward somewhat. But now seems to be mostly in contests around the wing. Marking is well down as well. I wonder if we can move him to whatever it is Melksham is supposed to be doing and then give Harmes' role to Hunt? Also, turnovers or not, we still need more (Tyson) experience in the midfield and Bernie and Lewis are past it.

Then we have the problems with our defense and the specific Richmond forward set-up. I usually don't resort to discussing the psychology of footballers but I'm concerned about the effect the flak will have on player and team if we were to demote Lever. Still, he has to come out to relieve the pressure and find some touch. And at least we can find out if Hibberd and Jetta are a form or a structural issue.

In: Pedo. Tyson. Hunt.

Out: Melksham. Bugg. Lever.

 

9 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

We will be breathing fire and do an Essendon and win. Pedo to kick 6.

 

29 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

ANB is an absolute potato. He could have 40 touches and none of them would be any good. 

He took a set shot from 50 metres out in the wet in the 2nd quarter that he never had a chance at making.

Should have kicked to the top of the square. Dumb footballer, and selfish.

 

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

If I sold them I could probably pay for Clarkson to come coach Melbourne. 

Sell them then

In Tyson. Hannan, Hunt, Pederson, Stretch

Out Harmes. Jetta, Vince, Melksham, Wagner

At this early stage:

outs:  Lever, Frost, ANB, Lewis, 

Ins:  Tyson, keilty to debut, Hunt, Weideman/stretch

Brayshaw plays back, Keilty replaces Lever, Hunt replaces Frost, weideman to give us structure, and chop out for Max, or stretch for outside speed.

lots of others on very thin ice.

this weekend about 5 teams were smashed, hardly scoring.  We are not alone in the problems we have.  3rd to 12th.  If you don’t wanna play, then don’t.  No passengers.

Don't care who comes in its all mediocrity anyway, but I don't think I can watch us with Lewis , Bugg and Melksham playing. Harmes and ANB are also wastes of space.