stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 14 hours ago, Thehardtackler said: Can I suggest that maybe Garland could have a place in the team as a Forward. You can, but I'm giggling at it. Quote
Mt. Dee-Maaan 608 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) B: O. Mac (reluctantly), Hibberd, Jetta HB: Hunt, Lever, Frost C: Oliver, Petracca, Viney HF: Hogan, Melksham/Bugg, ANB/Harmes F: Hannan, T. Mac, Garlett R: Gawn, Viney, Jones Interchange: Pedo, Brayshaw, Salem & Lewis *Tyson, Vince, Maynard, Kent & AVB waiting at Casey. HOT DAMN! that was super hard! Edited October 13, 2017 by Rocky Quote
whatwhat say what 23,864 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 best 22? no such thing in modern football and naming backs to interchange is great fun but obviously not how we play if, say, this was best 22 for round 1: B: Jetta - Frost - Lever HB: Hunt - O Mac - Hibberd C: Salem - Jones - Lewis HF: Petracca - T Mac - Melksham F: Hannan - Hogan - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney I/C: Brayshaw - Tyson - Pedersen - ANB it really equates to: normative defenders: lever, o mac, frost, jetta rebounding defenders: hunt, hibberd, jetta, frost, lever roll-back options: lewis, salem, vince, jones, brayshaw core mids: gawn, jones, viney, oliver, tyson, salem, lewis, anb, petracca, brayshaw push up forwards who can move right up the ground and perhaps thru the middle: petracca, anb, hannan, maybe brayshaw? defensive forward: melksham, garlett normative forwards: hogan, t mac, garlett relief ruck / rotation forward: pedo the game is so fluid - part of what makes it so great to watch 3 Quote
grey wolf 226 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Holding it in ....sorry need to exhale...the jack Watts thread doin my noggin in.. ooohhh the sweet smell of my cheroot backs ... nev Omar Lever Salem frosty hibbo and bernieeee mids .... TMac Ollie Viney Lewis gus xxxxxxxxx fronts .... ANB hulk trac Jeffy weeeed (my boy) inter.... jones hunt Tyson melksh emerg.... Gawn Baltic et al light my fire DA... 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 B: JETTA, FROST, LEVER HB: HIBBERD, O.MCDONALD, LEWIS C: PETRACCA, OLIVER, HUNT HF: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, NEAL-BULLEN F: GARLETT, HOGAN, HANNAN FOLL: GAWN, JONES, VINEY IC: TYSON, VINCE, SALEM, MAYNARD CASEY B: MCKENNA, GARLAND, J.SMITH HB: WAGNER, KEILTY, DRAFT PICK C: STRETCH, HARMES, BALIC HF: KENT, PEDERSEN, VANDENBERG F: T,SMITH, WEIDEMAN, BUGG FOLL: KING, BRAYSHAW, KENNEDY-HARRIS IC: FILIPOVIC, DRAFT PICK, DRAFT PICK, JOHNSTONE 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) Can we still play Watts in the ruck even if he's at Geelong? Sorry, just shared one with grey wolfy Edited October 13, 2017 by Moonshadow 3 Quote
Bobby McKenzie 2,408 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 21 hours ago, A F said: Problem is most of those guys aren't up to it. And you've got Kent in the side. I don't think Weidemann will make it. He just lacks something. Quote
Wadda We Sing 10,685 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 You guys are so die hard....talking about round 1 in October.....love it. Go Dees....f the draft picks! 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,744 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie said: I don't think Weidemann will make it. He just lacks something. Too early to say IMO. Give him another two years. Next year will be interesting. Quote
Skuit 10,031 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Firstly, what a joy is it to pencil a mock team-sheet with Lever at your disposal. Hibberd Tmac Jetta Frost Lever Hunt Our starting back six as befitting our game-style: balanced but dynamic, hard at the ball, with aggressive rebound and the potential to be miserly. See ball, kill ball. Intercept/win the contest and go for broke. Tmac in a simplified defensive role with reduced offensive responsibilities (ahem, restricted offensive authority). He was good up front this year, especially in what we were missing in terms of leading forwards, but I get the sense it's either/or; when Tom is firing our A-plan is off and the rest of the front half isn't functioning. Also, he has a pretty poor turning-circle, and I don't think there's room for both he and Hogan in our intended pressurised set-up (with Pedo or Max thrown in as well). Available to pinch-hit when our system isn't working/we want to change it up. Not to forget: Tom was on AA track in the front half of 2015 in this role (until, admittedly, he was slaughtered by Cloke and lost his mojo), and he really was in fantastic form for spoils/intercept marks on the opposite number 1's. That was, until he took on the dual roles of both offensive and defensive marshal in the back-line. Yet, he and Lever could form quite the formidable duo, with Jetta being Jetta, and Frost for support with less defensive responsibilities. Frost ahead of Omac because he has greater weapons and adds an extra dynamic. Brayshaw (and Jones and Lewis) to rotate off HB with Salem shifted to a HFF (to take Watts' role? As Watts doesn't play tall, I'm not exactly sure he provides that Salem can't). Vince at Casey or forward of the ball. J. Smith our first back-up, and poor Wagner not to get a look-in. Sorry Josh. The rest I don't care about/or selects itself on form. 3 Quote
MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) On 12/10/2017 at 4:12 PM, Deespicable said: Always a favourite for us dreamers - the Rd 1 side, selected four months out. As much chance of it coming up as ... Richmond winning the flag in 2017! Now that we have got our man I thought I'd go for it. Note: I'm one who rates VDB because of his gruntwork and his scary tackling and, barring injury, I reckon he's a monte. B: Jetta Frost Hibberd HB: Jones Lever Hunt C: Brayshaw Oliver Lewis HF: VDB T.Mac Nibbler F: Garlett Hogan Petracca Ru: Gawn Tyson Viney Int: Salem, Harmes, Melky, Vince Emerg: O.Mac, Hannan, Maynard My team not knowing the rest of Trade period. B: Jetta OMac Hibberd HB: Vince Lever Hunt C: Brayshaw Oliver Lewis HF: Hannan T.Mac Melk F: Garlett Hogan Petracca Ru: Gawn Jones Viney Int: Salem, Pedo, ANB, Tyson Emerg: Frost, VDB , Maynard Cant see OMac not playing. Also Jones starts in the guts for me! And Vince Half back Tyson off the bench and Hannan in for VDB, Think VDB would need a few games at VFL level before coming back and Pedo for Harmes! Edited October 13, 2017 by MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday Quote
Maldonboy38 6,435 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 BACK Jetta OMac Hibberd H-BACK Lever Frost Hunt CENTRE Brayshaw Oliver Lewis H-FWD Melksham TMac Petracca FORWARD Hannan Hogan Garlett FOLL Gawn Viney Jones INT Salem Pederson Tyson Neal-Bullen Vince could easily replace Salem, but see him not starting 22 at this stage. This excercise shows up one missing link - our forward line is still one player short of being able to trouble the best opposition defences. IF Weideman develops that will solve the issue. TMac goes back to defence and Frost moves to the bench or Casey. 1 Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said: BACK Jetta OMac Hibberd H-BACK Lever Frost Hunt CENTRE Brayshaw Oliver Lewis H-FWD Melksham TMac Petracca FORWARD Hannan Hogan Garlett FOLL Gawn Viney Jones INT Salem Pederson Tyson Neal-Bullen Vince could easily replace Salem, but see him not starting 22 at this stage. This excercise shows up one missing link - our forward line is still one player short of being able to trouble the best opposition defences. IF Weideman develops that will solve the issue. TMac goes back to defence and Frost moves to the bench or Casey. This also troubles me Maldon, especially in view of showing Watts the door and seemingly not looking to recruit any forwards. Weideman is the big question mark in this matter Edited October 13, 2017 by Bitter but optimistic typo 2 Quote
Biffen 12,949 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Watts is better than about ten of the above players -that's why I'll be taking up yoga on weekends next year if we trade him. 1 Quote
dieter 3,325 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Biffen said: Watts is better than about ten of the above players -that's why I'll be taking up yoga on weekends next year if we trade him. Yes, after your degenerate life some yoghurt would be good. Quote
leucopogon 1,519 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Biffen said: Watts is better than about ten of the above players -that's why I'll be taking up yoga on weekends next year if we trade him. Was about to post exactly this...without the yoga part. Weideman really needs to lift next year. Who are the precise deliverers into the forward line now that Watts is going? Salem, Lewis, Who else?? Quote
Gator 18,054 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Naturally it will evolve through the preseason. Jetta OMac Lever Hunt Frost Hibberd Brayshaw Viney Lewis Petracca Hogan Melksham Garlett TMac Neal-Bullen Gawn Oliver Jones Tyson Salem Harmes Hannan E: vandenBerg Vince Maynard Balic will be a Dee. His summer will be interesting. I really like Joel Smith. He's another watch. We'll use 32-35 players, so plenty will get their turn to impress. I don't want Gawn, McDonald, Hogan and Pedersen in the same team, so Pedersen reverts to depth. I hope AVB gets a decent run of it, because I think he can provide value. Bernie is just about cooked for mine. But he'll be good for 10 or so games. I really hope Billy puts his hand up and forces his way in. Finally, I'm a real Brayshaw fan. I reckon he can be a gun. Let's hope the bad luck is behind him. He's the sort of talent that could be the difference between 6-8 and top 4. 3 Quote
Courtney_Fish 183 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Line up a list of our players. Randomly knock out 1 in 4 players. Pick your best team. Now see how good our team is. If you don't like it, start again. Quote
Wilson7 2,689 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 B: N.Jetta, O.McDonald, S.Frost HB: M.Hibberd, J.Lever, J.Hunt C: A.Brayshaw, C.Petracca, N.Jones HF. C.Salem, T.McDonald, J.Melksham F: M.Hannan, J.Hogan, J.Garlett RU: M.Gawn, C.Oliver, J.Viney IC: Tyson, Lewis, Vince, Neal-Bullen Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 4 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said: B: N.Jetta, O.McDonald, S.Frost HB: M.Hibberd, J.Lever, J.Hunt C: A.Brayshaw, C.Petracca, N.Jones HF. C.Salem, T.McDonald, J.Melksham F: M.Hannan, J.Hogan, J.Garlett RU: M.Gawn, C.Oliver, J.Viney IC: Tyson, Lewis, Vince, Neal-Bullen You'd have Lever at CHB? Quote
Wadda We Sing 10,685 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Return to Glory said: You'd have Lever at CHB? Would that be not good RTG? I really still see TMac at CHB. Now with Lever the defense and rebound is top level modern football. Tom can still also be that swingshift forward much like Harry Taylor, to switch it up, but nobody is too sure when. Edited October 14, 2017 by Wadda We Sing Quote
faultydet 7,623 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 5:46 PM, Maxwell1 said: No personal history at all.Jones has been a super player for us but he is selfish ,he turns the ball over too much,as does tyson and when the game is on the line he does not communicate or stand up. i am sick of him running round the back for a quick stat and then bombing the ball long to a contest he needs to change the way he plays may be a half back roll is right for him in his last couple of years.i would play Maynard in the in the midfield rotation ahead of jones and tyson my view Nathan Jones will go down as one of the all time greats of our club. Everyone has faults, but Jones has lived through the worst period of our history, and survived to lead our push to respect again. Ok, he is not perfect, but damn he is a Dees champion. 5 Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 7:26 PM, joeboy said: Idiotic comment He does turn it over a lot by bombing it long without looking... Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said: Would that be not good RTG? I really still see TMac at CHB. Now with Lever the defense and rebound is top level modern football. Tom can still also be that swingshift forward much like Harry Taylor, to switch it up, but nobody is too sure when. To be honest, I'm not sure who I would play at CHB. Oscar? I think I'd be playing Lever on a flank as a third man up - his Adelaide role. 1 Quote
JV7 2,375 Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Return to Glory said: To be honest, I'm not sure who I would play at CHB. Oscar? I think I'd be playing Lever on a flank as a third man up - his Adelaide role. Playing positions in defense went out the window 10 years ago... It's a back 6 and players play on whoever the best match up is. Quote
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