28 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Yep, just saw the replay. Genuine spoiling attempt going back with the flight.

Life ban.

It was very similar to Watts one yesterday. 

 

Gawn was terrible today. Didnt lay a tackle.

He used to win games for us with his marking but I cant remember him tearing one apart this year

2 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

It was very similar to Watts one yesterday. 

 

Difference being, I think, that Bernie copped Beams with an elbow, where as Wattsy was all body contact. I think Bernie's was a genuine spoiling attempt, and Jack was bracing for impact, which was minimal

3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Gawn was terrible today. Didnt lay a tackle.

He used to win games for us with his marking but I cant remember him tearing one apart this year

First half against Port before he hurt his ankle. He was huge

OUT: Wagner, Vince, and Stretch

IN: Salem, Maynard, and Viney (if fit)

In: Salem, Watts/Frost (depending on match ups vs Collingwood)

Out: Wagner, Stretch

Finding a third out is a bit harder if Viney is fit but Hannan, Vince, Harmes and ANB would have to be the ones in question. But I doubt Viney is fit.

3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Gawn was terrible today. Didnt lay a tackle.

He used to win games for us with his marking but I cant remember him tearing one apart this year

He was creamed by Martin in the first half but improved markedly in the second half. Came out with aggression in the third which helped us.

He was also utterly dominant against the likely AA ruckman (Ryder) against Port before rolling his ankle.

Just now, titan_uranus said:

He was creamed by Martin in the first half but improved markedly in the second half. Came out with aggression in the third which helped us.

He was also utterly dominant against the likely AA ruckman (Ryder) against Port before rolling his ankle.

Last week at least he was in the marking contests but today just wasnt close to them.

Pedo out for Watts. Also, Hogan came back too early and should have week off - Weed in.

At what point will selectors bring Tyson into these omission discussions? He is a momentum killer.  27 possessions at 59% just doesn't cut it. He is also a liability away on the spread. And for those that want to quote its due to his role; Jones, Lewis and Oliver all went at better than 80%.

Out: Wagner, Stretch, Tyson (only if Viney plays which I dont expect)

In: Watts, Salem, Viney (if fit)

10 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Gawn was terrible today. Didnt lay a tackle.

He used to win games for us with his marking but I cant remember him tearing one apart this year

Yup - he's down in confidence and hunger. Needs to step up

7 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Difference being, I think, that Bernie copped Beams with an elbow, where as Wattsy was all body contact. I think Bernie's was a genuine spoiling attempt, and Jack was bracing for impact, which was minimal

Bernie's was a football act, the contact with his forearm was in the same spirit of sportsmanship as Selwoods elbow to the head.

57 minutes ago, Mickey said:

If bernie is suspended I'd expect Watts in. 

?? What did he do now?

I'm for Watts but it would be a career game for him. Would much prefer Frost in. And Salem 

Wagner and Stretch are definite outs.

It's worth noting Salem was dropped for form reasons. And then got himself suspended in the VFL with a careless act. I'd have him back personally but I'm not sure he'd be an automatic in at the selection table. 

JKH wouldn't shock me. Goodwin seems to be a fan.

Edited August 20, 20178 yr by P-man

Salem in for Stretch

if any injuries or outs, Maynard in for whoever.

Frost bashing on the door.

Out  T Mac in Frost

Maybe Brayshaw plays the role Salem does.

Hense In : Watts to gi ve us better link to Fwd line ,Viney (IF FIT!!!!!)( cause he is captain)

Out: Wagner ,Stretch

1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said:

Is Bernie in any sort of trouble for the hit on Beams? Was pretty clearly going for the footy and just braced for contact. Obviously trying to spoil but was looking the other way 

What colour is his jumper?  Has he a "bad record".  Is the MRP due to "send a message" about anything?

 

24 minutes ago, P-man said:

Wagner and Stretch are definite outs.

It's worth noting Salem was dropped for form reasons. And then got himself suspended in the VFL with a careless act. I'd have him back personally but I'm not sure he'd be an automatic in at the selection table. 

JKH wouldn't shock me. Goodwin seems to be a fan.

JKH - 19 tackles yesterday

1 hour ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

How does Wagner get a game?? Blows my mind

Yeah he's not very good

11 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

JKH - 19 tackles yesterday

Goodwin loves tacklers.    That IS an amazing number of tackles in anyone's language.

all will depend upon injuries and suspensions

wagner gets a game cos he's a classic role player; like harmes he's not overly skilled but he has a dip at every contest

in saying that, it's hard to see watts or vince being suspended, although the latter is borderline compared to the former in the magoos - if he is to come back in, it's at the expense of either harmes or wagner you'd think

IN: viney, watts
OUT: stretch, wagner

B: Jetta - T Mac - Hibberd
HB: Hunt - O Mac - Lewis
C: Tyson - Jones - Vince
HF: Petracca - Pedersen - Melksham
F: Hannan - Hogan - Garlett
Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I/C: Watts - Brayshaw - ANB - Harmes

salem needs a massive vfl game to get back in for finals week 1

Edited August 20, 20178 yr by DemonAndrew

1 hour ago, juzzk1d said:

Out: Wagner, Stretch

In: Salem, Viney

Unsure who comes out for Watts.

Nup 

Out  Stretch,  Wagner

in  Viney, Watts 

That's it!!!

1 hour ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

At what point will selectors bring Tyson into these omission discussions? He is a momentum killer.  27 possessions at 59% just doesn't cut it. He is also a liability away on the spread. And for those that want to quote its due to his role; Jones, Lewis and Oliver all went at better than 80%.

Out: Wagner, Stretch, Tyson (only if Viney plays which I dont expect)

In: Watts, Salem, Viney (if fit)

Tyson was one of the reasons we got out to a 40 point lead last week, opened the Saints up in the first quarter

Frost and Viney in.

Wagner and Stretch out.

How does Wagner keep getting a game?