I'm a fan of Pedo, glad he did well, but the real test is to see him fill in the first ruck roll consistantly until Max comes back.

You've earned your chance Pedo, clunk it with both hands big fella!

Jack Watts said in his after match interview that Pedo always performs like that and gets the job done for the team every time he is brought in.  Seemed to me that Jack firmly believes Pedo belongs in the team.  Was a glowing endorsement, and nice to hear.

18 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I have never understood the 'will he be in our next premiership team' logic when selecting teams. As far as I'm concerned, the future is now. 

It's up to Weed to knock the Bear out of the side. It's not until then that we consistently choose him over Pedo.

And in any case, why can't he be part of a premiership side? Rarely puts in a stinker. Quintessential team first player who can play a number of roles. Love the bear.

3 hours ago, poita said:

Weideman needs to understand that Pedersen's work rate and intensity is the absolute minimum that Sam needs to bring each week. Anything less and he is a liability. Hopefully he realises this before too much more time passes.

Weed is a second year player: played but a handful of games.  

Looked in his debut game to have great awareness and a good feel for teamwork.

I agree he needs a bit of time at Casey to gain some confidence, and like other here would probably have replaced him with Pedo round 2, or 3.  Now (before I get pilloried ) I know  one never can tell but had Cam been there when Max went down, or when Spencer went down, I strongly suspect that those two games could have been won.  Easy with hindsight.

2 hours ago, Vagg said:

Jack Watts said in his after match interview that Pedo always performs like that and gets the job done for the team every time he is brought in.  Seemed to me that Jack firmly believes Pedo belongs in the team.  Was a glowing endorsement, and nice to hear.

Agree, Barrie.  Pedo in the team allows JW4 to play his best role, a very mobile tall forward.  Today showed just how good he has become in that role.  Rucking him is a rucking waste of his other talents.

3 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I have never understood the 'will he be in our next premiership team' logic when selecting teams. As far as I'm concerned, the future is now. 

It's up to Weed to knock the Bear out of the side. It's not until then that we consistently choose him over Pedo.

The biggest thing i took out of last season was beating Hawthorn and then having Jordan Lewis tap us on the shoulder and ask for a trade our way.

Winning breads winners.

We should be picking best available and trying to win every game rather than selecting players who might be in our next premiership side.

Why is anyone surprised? Gives his all every time and we are a better team when he is playing.

If his body is up to it, he should play the rest of the season.

4 hours ago, P-man said:

And in any case, why can't he be part of a premiership side? Rarely puts in a stinker. Quintessential team first player who can play a number of roles. Love the bear.

Spot on.

I think what can't be disputed is that Weed has more of a potential upside than the Bear.

But whether he does reach his potential is a big if as well. We need to work on (as Donald Rumsfeld once said) 'known knowns'.

 

Happy to make him earn it.

Frankly, I have been unimpressed with his up and down games in the past. (That's not exclusive to Pederson though).

He was also carrying too much weight and has been ever since he got to our club, regardless of what Satyricon says.

Clearly he can now covers the ground a lot better and no doubt it was something that needed to happen for him to be able to challenge for a best 22 spot.

I was already a bit of a fan, but he far exceeded my expectations today. I liked his quote before the game about treating it as his last. 

That's the effort we need from him in the coming weeks, just compete and give the mids a chance, and the oppo coach a bit of a headache. 

9 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I was already a bit of a fan, but he far exceeded my expectations today. I liked his quote before the game about treating it as his last. 

That's the effort we need from him in the coming weeks, just compete and give the mids a chance, and the oppo coach a bit of a headache. 

Every player should have that same mindset that Pedo has every week when they run out. Treat it like it's your last and go for it!

Someone is missing from this thread probably at the pie shop.

Even when Pedo played poor or average games I like the way he contests and breaks up packs. We don't have anyone else that impact marking contests with the same physicality except maybe for Trac but that's not usually his role. Hogan did it for a while but that's been missing from his game for a long time.

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15 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I have never understood the 'will he be in our next premiership team' logic when selecting teams. As far as I'm concerned, the future is now. 

It's up to Weed to knock the Bear out of the side. It's not until then that we consistently choose him over Pedo.

Spot on.

I've been saying this for years.

The biggest challenge for Pedo now is to back it up, don't believe he should of been pick last week jake is the second ruckman, and smith had better form just bad luck both went down last week, this is why u need depth on the list no such thing as list cloggers, except for daws. If would off and could off came true then we win last week, we where better then the Tigers last week just ran out of legs dew to less players on bench, watts will give 2 goals a game as mostly forward.

16 hours ago, Biffen said:

So where is Pro Dee?

Pretty clear that Pedo best 22 in the absence of Gawn and Hogan yet there are still knockers based on his mobility .

Pretty clear he is best 22 with Hogan and Gawn.

He's our best second forward, a very handy foil for Hogan when he's back.

2 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Pretty clear he is best 22 with Hogan and Gawn.

He's our best second forward, a very handy foil for Hogan when he's back.

I don't disagree .

His  versatility is known but now he is lighter I think he could play even when Max returns.

Our weakest links are the smaller fringe players.

Melksham is playing like a poor mans Matt Jones,without the impact.

JKH is battling but deserves more time.

I'm not impressed with Melkshams armchair ride.

Harmes offer more than him.

JKH is going to need to tackle like a maniac ,harass etc to warrant selection.

Stretch,,Harmes and Melksham will need to lift s notch .

I reckon ANB is going well and he has had his time at Casey.

Nobody would dispute, after TWSNBN, what a top job Cam did yesterday, but i didn't see many" i told you so's" saying we can do without having a First Ruck at the same time as well. In other words Spencer was given his popular and rightful opportunity first and barring injury, he would still be there. Especially for the big boys coming up. 

Consistency is the mission, and Cam's mobility could, like yesterday, just mean that now we bring more players into the fray.....

He's no superstar and he knows it, but I absolutely love his endeavour. Works so hard and knows his role.

I also think he uses his body better than almost any player on our list. Makes sure the opposition players feel every single hit.

In the AFL.com article today Pedo said "I play every game as if it's my last". My admiration for him just went up a notch.

Looking long term, if Gawn, Watts, and Hogan are in the 22 do we fit Pedo in? I would say yes. On the bench play 3 mids and Pedo can be the big man relief, rotating with Watts, Hogan, Gawn and even Frost or TMac. Thoughts? 

Cam did a great job on Sunday but he rarely plays more than one good game in a row. The reason he is dropped so often.

Had more goal assists than anyone on the ground.

Before that we were really struggling to convert inside 50, so he helped create space for the likes of Watts, Pettacca, Jeffry and Hannan, best our forward line had worked all year and that's without Hogan.

30 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

In the AFL.com article today Pedo said "I play every game as if it's my last". My admiration for him just went up a notch.

Looking long term, if Gawn, Watts, and Hogan are in the 22 do we fit Pedo in? I would say yes. On the bench play 3 mids and Pedo can be the big man relief, rotating with Watts, Hogan, Gawn and even Frost or TMac. Thoughts? 

I definitely think so, mainly because Watts is so versatile. Pedo is the perfect man to have in the team while Weideman continues to develop.

18 hours ago, Chook said:

We got into a position to make finals last year in large part because of Pedersen. As soon as he was dropped, our structure fell apart and we wilted. I’m very glad to see him back in the team because his maturity and structural importance is very very valuable.

Pedo missed an absolute sitter of a goal against Port Adelaide in our last win of the 2016 and I reckon he copped it in the neck for that.

You're right, our structure did fall apart after he was dropped, and Hogan and Weed were a terrible combo in the last 2 games of last year.

We got too cute at selections when finals were on the line.

I've never been quite sure of why  Pederson has been dropped down through the ages! A number of times he has been plain "stiff" to have been dropped, when others were less effective. This year he has been held back beyond belief... I don't recall the 'one good game then mediocre' label that is being tossed around here. Didn't he play the first 8 rounds last season? Was it an injury that caused his displacement? I agree with all those that have highlighted what he brings... pack-crasher, genuine ruck relief, contested marking, goal kicker, smart decision maker... well he was on Sunday! This is his time!