Toby Greene was close to being a Demon

[beelzebub 23,370]

34 minutes ago, DSP said:

A face only a mother could love, but the kid can play.

Would give up just about anything to get him now.

Speaking of such( faces...mums )  ...espied Jacko last night at our local.

A dark alley, him and I .....should never occur. Looked tired

Edited April 28, 2017 by beelzebub

[poita 3,902]

I wonder how many of Kennedy, Hannan, Johnstone, and McKenna would have made it on to the list if we had picked up Greene.

Probably none, which would have solved a number of our current list problems.

[daisycutter 29,614]

1 hour ago, poita said:

I wonder how many of Kennedy, Hannan, Johnstone, and McKenna would have made it on to the list if we had picked up Greene.

Probably none, which would have solved a number of our current list problems.

not really, we'd probably still be trying to develop him as a midfielder - lol

[Radar Detector 1,347]

Greene reminds me of Ben Cousins in his early years in more ways than one.

[McQueen 17,864]

21 hours ago, A F said:

Gus is a way better footballer in traffic. Forward is precisely the place I wouldn't play him. He looks lost. However, if played off half back or in the middle, he looks very comfortable.

No he's not. I done even know how you can base that from his small body of evidence.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Toby Greene is a little Gun

i could imagine him working for the mob after hours...

[Skuit 10,031]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Toby Greene is a little Gun

i could imagine him working for the mob after hours...

You seemed to have forgotten the t.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Just now, Skuit said:

You seemed to have forgotten the t.

Yes! But he can play and has JUST been reported!!!!

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

Just been reported and will miss a few

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Ouch! Gonna get a few weeks for hitting the helmeted midget 

[Little Goffy 14,542]

Ha, funny, he's playing game when he should be suspended, and is going to be suspended.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Very ugly hit. Because it's GWS he'll get one week down to 0 with guilty plea. 

[Adam The God 30,249]

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

No he's not. I done even know how you can base that from his small body of evidence.

Because Brayshaw doesn't turn it over in the midfield or panic, whereas Greene panics and turns it over in the midfield.

[Akum 2,660]

11 hours ago, DSP said:

A face only a mother could love, but the kid can play.

Would give up just about anything to get him now.

Do we have a no-DH clause? GWS obviously don't.

[dazzledavey36 54,921]

7 minutes ago, A F said:

Because Brayshaw doesn't turn it over in the midfield or panic, whereas Greene panics and turns it over in the midfield.

Mate Brayshaw has been prone to turn over the ball at numerous times. Was rated a decent kick on both sides on his body and im yet to see that at AFL level.

 

[Adam The God 30,249]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate Brayshaw has been prone to turn over the ball at numerous times. Was rated a decent kick on both sides on his body and im yet to see that at AFL level.

 

There's a difference between pressured turnovers and unforced errors. Brayshaw delivers the latter, whereas Greene shits himself when midfield pressure comes his way.

[dazzledavey36 54,921]

1 minute ago, A F said:

There's a difference between pressured turnovers and unforced errors. Brayshaw delivers the latter, whereas Greene shits himself when midfield pressure comes his way.

No A F... you have your rose coloured glasses on here mate. Look I'm a big fan of Brayshaw and still think he'll be an absolute gun but he is just prone to turn it over by foot without any pressure. He also has the case of the fumbles which the game against Carlton showed this year.

[Adam The God 30,249]

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No A F... you have your rose coloured glasses on here mate. Look I'm a big fan of Brayshaw and still think he'll be an absolute gun but he is just prone to turn it over by foot without any pressure. He also has the case of the fumbles which the game against Carlton showed this year.

This is what I was saying, mate. His errors are more unforced, whereas Greene, IMO, doesn't like the hot stuff.

He did have the fumbles this year, but that's more a form thing, than an implied pressure thing IMO.

[dazzledavey36 54,921]

19 minutes ago, A F said:

This is what I was saying, mate. His errors are more unforced, whereas Greene, IMO, doesn't like the hot stuff.

He did have the fumbles this year, but that's more a form thing, than an implied pressure thing IMO.

AF if his errors are from simple unforced errors then thats a bigger issue then then turning the ball over when in around stoppages.

Don't know how you can justify that that by turning the ball over with lack of percieved  pressure is far more acceptable then one thats a forced error.

 

 

[Adam The God 30,249]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

AF if his errors are from simple unforced errors then thats a bigger issue then then turning the ball over when in around stoppages.

Don't know how you can justify that that by turning the ball over with lack of percieved  pressure is far more acceptable then one thats a forced error.

 

 

I'm not saying unforced errors are acceptable. I'm saying, IMO, Gus is a way better footballer in traffic than Toby Greene.

[dazzledavey36 54,921]

Just now, A F said:

I'm not saying unforced errors are acceptable. I'm saying, IMO, Gus is a way better footballer in traffic than Toby Greene.

Agree to disagree.

Im just yet to see that from Gus at AFL level sorry to say.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

5 minutes ago, A F said:

I'm not saying unforced errors are acceptable. I'm saying, IMO, Gus is a way better footballer in traffic than Toby Greene.

From what we've seen from both, I can't see how you can find that correct AF. However, seen to little from Gus to say that's the way it will be. Greene is AA and will probably be again this year. Atm he's better in the heat of it than Gus.

[Adam The God 30,249]

21 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

From what we've seen from both, I can't see how you can find that correct AF. However, seen to little from Gus to say that's the way it will be. Greene is AA and will probably be again this year. Atm he's better in the heat of it than Gus.

I've seen enough of Gus in the midfield (the back end of last year) and Greene in the midfield to compare them. That's not to say neither one can improve on their deficiencies, but right now Greene struggles in the midfield. He's an AA forward, not a midfielder. GWS were ready to give him up for 'a bag of crisps' as a midfielder. 

Edited April 28, 2017 by A F

[KingDingAling 3,757]

13 minutes ago, A F said:

I've seen enough of Gus in the midfield (the back end of last year) and Greene in the midfield to compare them. That's not to say neither one can improve on their deficiencies, but right now Greene struggles in the midfield. He's an AA forward, not a midfielder. GWS were ready to give him up for 'a bag of crisps' as a midfielder. 

Greene is proven, Gus isn't even getting a game at the moment. There is day and night between them. One is a top notch AFL player and the other is a solid VFL level player. That is how big the gap is between Greene and Gus at the moment. Whether Greene was to play forward, midfield, does not matter, he is playing at a level above Gus, and playing a far highly quality of football. I don't mind Brayshaw, but he is absolutely unproven in comparison to Greene.

[Skuit 10,031]

I wonder which bag of our crisps GWS may have been after . . . the pick 53 in return? Jeremy Howe? Toby demonstrated his forward capabilities by tearing us apart in a scratch early on - so I imagine there must have been a fairly solid reason not to take him for free.