Jump to content

Featured Replies

I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Could get the her majesty out here for her birthday game against Collingwood to do it in front of a packed MCC.  I'm sure the old timers would love it!

...she barracks for the MFC you know! 😜

Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

 
 
On 11/13/2021 at 3:34 PM, Mach5 said:

Was selected in a GF side. I also think it’s a stretch to class his draft selection as a failure.

Mitch King as a young ruck is also excusable due to it often being a roll of the dice at that stage.

Even with a kid like Baker or Lockhart, there’s only 22 (23) spots available each week. Someone has to miss out.

JT’s track record is difficult to criticise.

Certainly not a big criticism but he’s now gone 0/4 on young rucks with King, King, Bradtke and Filipovic. They are a dice roll but you’d expect at least one of them to become a useful back up.

Home grown depth talls and speedy wingers are probably his two areas for improvement. If he nails those rolls of the dice his record would be just about spotless 

14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Certainly not a big criticism but he’s now gone 0/4 on young rucks with King, King, Bradtke and Filipovic. They are a dice roll but you’d expect at least one of them to become a useful back up.

Home grown depth talls and speedy wingers are probably his two areas for improvement. If he nails those rolls of the dice his record would be just about spotless 

i see it as 1 from 5 - jackson being an absolute standout


On 11/14/2021 at 8:32 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Could get the her majesty out here for her birthday game against Collingwood to do it in front of a packed MCC.  I'm sure the old timers would love it!

...she barracks for the MFC you know! 😜

She might even come if we can convince Meghan Markle to participate in the Freeze MND slide.

3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

i see it as 1 from 5 - jackson being an absolute standout

Yes, a good thing he nailed the Jackson pick. He will revolutionise the ruck position by the end of his career (he has already started to).

Selection of Ruckmen in the Rookie list is always going to be very speculative although Cox Jamar Jolly and Sandilands were ok.

I think this is an area were the players when selected must have a desire to become the best because they were overlook in the normal draft.

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

 
On 11/14/2021 at 7:32 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Love it. He’s definitely worthy of a knighthood in our eyes for contribution to the Melbourne Footy club. 

On 11/13/2021 at 1:44 PM, Stiff Arm said:

A few that JT didn't nail or are yet to nail. Mostly late picks, I didn't look above 53. He has a tremendous success rate. Instrumental to our flag.

JKH  40
Billy Stretch 42
OMac 53
Weid 9
Mitch King 42
Hannah 46
Baker 46
Nietzsche 53

When I see those picks perhaps there is a strong case for bundling your 3rd and 4th round picks  and trading them for a pick < 40.


37 minutes ago, durango said:

Selection of Ruckmen in the Rookie list is always going to be very speculative although Cox Jamar Jolly and Sandilands were ok.

I think this is an area were the players when selected must have a desire to become the best because they were overlook in the normal draft.

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

Good point, I would go so far as to say selection of ANYONE in the rookie list is speculative. Selection of rucks even in the main draft are often speculative. 

On 11/15/2021 at 2:20 PM, durango said:

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

It’s always been an advantage for a ruckman to be mobile. Nothing new at all.

On 11/15/2021 at 2:20 PM, durango said:

 

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

Ah "multi-dimensional". I hope TGR enjoyed the flag!

On 11/15/2021 at 2:45 PM, Jontee said:

When I see those picks perhaps there is a strong case for bundling your 3rd and 4th round picks  and trading them for a pick < 40.

I think that is what we have been doing the last few years.

2017: Picks 29, 31 & 37

2018: Picks 27, 33, 53, 56 & 75 

2019: Picks 3, 12 & 32

2020: Picks 21, 22 & 34

2018 was the only outlier where we used 5 picks, which may have been to do with list spots and players we lost in 2017. Of those three above pick 40, Hore and Nietschke are gone and Toby Bedford was pick 75, who at this stage you would think may be on the chopping block at the end of 2022 (not having a crack at him it is just the way of list management).

On 11/17/2021 at 8:23 AM, Action Jackson said:

I think that is what we have been doing the last few years.

2017: Picks 29, 31 & 37

2018: Picks 27, 33, 53, 56 & 75 

2019: Picks 3, 12 & 32

2020: Picks 21, 22 & 34

2018 was the only outlier where we used 5 picks, which may have been to do with list spots and players we lost in 2017. Of those three above pick 40, Hore and Nietschke are gone and Toby Bedford was pick 75, who at this stage you would think may be on the chopping block at the end of 2022 (not having a crack at him it is just the way of list management).

Agree. The success rate within the top 30 picks has been the sweet spot.  Trading of players and picks has worked to try to get two and three picks within that range       .

JT has nailed these with stars within the “top 10” and then backed up with successful 2nd rounders.  

  • 2 weeks later...

Got to be happy with draft picks we picked up.

VAN ROOYEN: Great get considering he can play key forward and back. A lot like Petty but as Taylor has already said he will spend more time up forward.

HOWES: Was suppose to go in the top 20. To get him at 39 was a great get. Would love it if he was half as good as Gunstan who is a quality forward when fit, but he gonna spend more time in the midfield a string to his bow that Gunstan hasn't got.

WOEWODIN: Good father son pick up. If he can be half as good as his old man we will have a pretty good footballer on our hands.

MCVEE: Is the running half back I was crying out for. All Australian under 16 if he can find that form again we will have a good player on our hands.

MONIZ-WAKEFIELD: Another small forward mid who will keep the likes of Neal-Bullen, Spargo, Pickett, Bedford and Chandler honest.

Love JT what a recruiter he has been since crossing over from Collingwood, may his good judgement continue.

JT has been terrific, 8-9 21 and unders in GF team is great selections and qudos to MW on his development work!

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.


7 minutes ago, durango said:

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.

Lots of talls in next years draft apparently, might be the plan to trade in again and grab one

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Lots of talls in next years draft apparently, might be the plan to trade in again and grab one

I reckon that's the plan we now have 1 Round 2 & 2 Round 3 & 4. We can bundle and get in first round. Very strategic

2 hours ago, durango said:

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.

I would say 2 genuine ruckmen and fill ins.

Daw is not a genuine ruckman.

 
22 hours ago, Redleg said:

Daw is not a genuine ruckman.

Perhaps not, but like LJ, what you want them to do is compete in the contest.

As an aside, I thought Daw was a curious drafting decision due to his age, ability and past injuries.  Perhaps they wanted a familiar face for when Mac Andrew arrived.  Still, would have won us some brownie points at AFL HQ.

1 hour ago, Jontee said:

Still, would have won us some brownie points at AFL HQ.

Doubt it.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Brisbane

    And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Hawthorn

    There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • CASEY: Footscray

    At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

      • Thanks
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: Brisbane

    The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 127 replies
    Demonland
  • PODCAST: Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 52 replies
    Demonland
  • POSTGAME: Hawthorn

    Wayward kicking for goal, dump kicks inside 50 and some baffling umpiring all contributed to the Dees not getting out to an an early lead that may have impacted the result. At the end of the day the Demons were just not good enough and let the Hawks run away with their first win against the Demons in 7 years.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 369 replies
    Demonland