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I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Could get the her majesty out here for her birthday game against Collingwood to do it in front of a packed MCC.  I'm sure the old timers would love it!

...she barracks for the MFC you know! 😜

Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

 
 
On 11/13/2021 at 3:34 PM, Mach5 said:

Was selected in a GF side. I also think it’s a stretch to class his draft selection as a failure.

Mitch King as a young ruck is also excusable due to it often being a roll of the dice at that stage.

Even with a kid like Baker or Lockhart, there’s only 22 (23) spots available each week. Someone has to miss out.

JT’s track record is difficult to criticise.

Certainly not a big criticism but he’s now gone 0/4 on young rucks with King, King, Bradtke and Filipovic. They are a dice roll but you’d expect at least one of them to become a useful back up.

Home grown depth talls and speedy wingers are probably his two areas for improvement. If he nails those rolls of the dice his record would be just about spotless 

14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Certainly not a big criticism but he’s now gone 0/4 on young rucks with King, King, Bradtke and Filipovic. They are a dice roll but you’d expect at least one of them to become a useful back up.

Home grown depth talls and speedy wingers are probably his two areas for improvement. If he nails those rolls of the dice his record would be just about spotless 

i see it as 1 from 5 - jackson being an absolute standout


On 11/14/2021 at 8:32 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Could get the her majesty out here for her birthday game against Collingwood to do it in front of a packed MCC.  I'm sure the old timers would love it!

...she barracks for the MFC you know! 😜

She might even come if we can convince Meghan Markle to participate in the Freeze MND slide.

3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

i see it as 1 from 5 - jackson being an absolute standout

Yes, a good thing he nailed the Jackson pick. He will revolutionise the ruck position by the end of his career (he has already started to).

Selection of Ruckmen in the Rookie list is always going to be very speculative although Cox Jamar Jolly and Sandilands were ok.

I think this is an area were the players when selected must have a desire to become the best because they were overlook in the normal draft.

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

 
On 11/14/2021 at 7:32 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I'm not really a monachist, but I just want to know when the club will officially announce that JT has been nominated for a knighthood.

Love it. He’s definitely worthy of a knighthood in our eyes for contribution to the Melbourne Footy club. 

On 11/13/2021 at 1:44 PM, Stiff Arm said:

A few that JT didn't nail or are yet to nail. Mostly late picks, I didn't look above 53. He has a tremendous success rate. Instrumental to our flag.

JKH  40
Billy Stretch 42
OMac 53
Weid 9
Mitch King 42
Hannah 46
Baker 46
Nietzsche 53

When I see those picks perhaps there is a strong case for bundling your 3rd and 4th round picks  and trading them for a pick < 40.


37 minutes ago, durango said:

Selection of Ruckmen in the Rookie list is always going to be very speculative although Cox Jamar Jolly and Sandilands were ok.

I think this is an area were the players when selected must have a desire to become the best because they were overlook in the normal draft.

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

Good point, I would go so far as to say selection of ANYONE in the rookie list is speculative. Selection of rucks even in the main draft are often speculative. 

On 11/15/2021 at 2:20 PM, durango said:

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

It’s always been an advantage for a ruckman to be mobile. Nothing new at all.

On 11/15/2021 at 2:20 PM, durango said:

 

Tall players now have to become multi dimensional due to the modern ruckmen have now become the 4th midfielder not just tap ruckmen.

Ah "multi-dimensional". I hope TGR enjoyed the flag!

On 11/15/2021 at 2:45 PM, Jontee said:

When I see those picks perhaps there is a strong case for bundling your 3rd and 4th round picks  and trading them for a pick < 40.

I think that is what we have been doing the last few years.

2017: Picks 29, 31 & 37

2018: Picks 27, 33, 53, 56 & 75 

2019: Picks 3, 12 & 32

2020: Picks 21, 22 & 34

2018 was the only outlier where we used 5 picks, which may have been to do with list spots and players we lost in 2017. Of those three above pick 40, Hore and Nietschke are gone and Toby Bedford was pick 75, who at this stage you would think may be on the chopping block at the end of 2022 (not having a crack at him it is just the way of list management).

On 11/17/2021 at 8:23 AM, Action Jackson said:

I think that is what we have been doing the last few years.

2017: Picks 29, 31 & 37

2018: Picks 27, 33, 53, 56 & 75 

2019: Picks 3, 12 & 32

2020: Picks 21, 22 & 34

2018 was the only outlier where we used 5 picks, which may have been to do with list spots and players we lost in 2017. Of those three above pick 40, Hore and Nietschke are gone and Toby Bedford was pick 75, who at this stage you would think may be on the chopping block at the end of 2022 (not having a crack at him it is just the way of list management).

Agree. The success rate within the top 30 picks has been the sweet spot.  Trading of players and picks has worked to try to get two and three picks within that range       .

JT has nailed these with stars within the “top 10” and then backed up with successful 2nd rounders.  

  • 2 weeks later...

Got to be happy with draft picks we picked up.

VAN ROOYEN: Great get considering he can play key forward and back. A lot like Petty but as Taylor has already said he will spend more time up forward.

HOWES: Was suppose to go in the top 20. To get him at 39 was a great get. Would love it if he was half as good as Gunstan who is a quality forward when fit, but he gonna spend more time in the midfield a string to his bow that Gunstan hasn't got.

WOEWODIN: Good father son pick up. If he can be half as good as his old man we will have a pretty good footballer on our hands.

MCVEE: Is the running half back I was crying out for. All Australian under 16 if he can find that form again we will have a good player on our hands.

MONIZ-WAKEFIELD: Another small forward mid who will keep the likes of Neal-Bullen, Spargo, Pickett, Bedford and Chandler honest.

Love JT what a recruiter he has been since crossing over from Collingwood, may his good judgement continue.

JT has been terrific, 8-9 21 and unders in GF team is great selections and qudos to MW on his development work!

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.


7 minutes ago, durango said:

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.

Lots of talls in next years draft apparently, might be the plan to trade in again and grab one

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Lots of talls in next years draft apparently, might be the plan to trade in again and grab one

I reckon that's the plan we now have 1 Round 2 & 2 Round 3 & 4. We can bundle and get in first round. Very strategic

2 hours ago, durango said:

The only area were we are thin is the rucks where we have only 3 genuine ruckmen and a few fill ins.

I would say 2 genuine ruckmen and fill ins.

Daw is not a genuine ruckman.

 
22 hours ago, Redleg said:

Daw is not a genuine ruckman.

Perhaps not, but like LJ, what you want them to do is compete in the contest.

As an aside, I thought Daw was a curious drafting decision due to his age, ability and past injuries.  Perhaps they wanted a familiar face for when Mac Andrew arrived.  Still, would have won us some brownie points at AFL HQ.

1 hour ago, Jontee said:

Still, would have won us some brownie points at AFL HQ.

Doubt it.


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