Post Match Thread vs. Doggies

[Bobby Clark 121]

Clayton Oliver will be our next brownlow medalist. Lock it in.

 

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Melksham was fine for a guy having his first serious hit out for a while, didn't do too much wrong

Stretch continues to develop nicely, did some good and bad like most of the others

Salem's first hit out in midfield, more please

Hate to say it but the one player who has begun to believe the publicity was Hunt, tried too much a few time, the Doggies had watched the tapes

Jeff Garlett will be ther Rd 1

Saty, nice to read a post from you that is not all sunshine and roses.

Well done, even though I put Hunts game tonight down to first game rust, not bloaty head.

[Skuit 9,958]

23 minutes ago, Bobby Clark said:

Clayton Oliver will be our next brownlow medalist. Lock it in.

 

Unless Jack Viney beats him to it.

[Willmoy1947 3,967]

Pretty impressed with Jones's game today seemed to have a bit of freedom to make effective inside 50s and got straight up after a heavy knock....so did our other Captain as well. All in all very even display on a pr%%k of a ground. 

[Buffalo 203]

Goody's presser revealed that Wagner dislocated his fibula. Apparently it went straight back in, but remains a bit sore. Never known of that injury before...

Edited February 18, 2017 by Buffalo

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

3 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

We went to pieces mentally in the last five minutes of the second and fourth quarters - I think greater concentration and drilling in what's expected from the senior players will help.

From what I saw, the fringe players will struggle to get in due to the greater depth in our side's make-up.

Spencer, Smith look likely candidates to be best 22 in our side come round 1 - the waxing and waning btw Spencer and Gawn was exciting to watch, just like at the Cats game a couple of years back. Smith just looks all class coming off half-back, but I guess at the moment it's between him and Hibberd, and for mine Hibberd wins?

Interesting with Melksham, he essentially played the 'small defender' role. For mine, Jetta is a walk up start for that gig come Round 1.

JKH and ANB were okay, but nothing amazing. They played their roles but didn't strike me as pushing towards the best side.

Lewis, Jones and Vince swapping between half-back, wing, and inside mid was really good to see. Jones on the outside was arguably the most threatening of the three for mine, but Lewis and Vince were good too.

Some don't like him, but vandenBerg is a monty to be in there come Round 1 for mine. His attack on the ball and the man is really great to watch.

Only issues for mine was how easily T Mac got lead up the ground by Cloke and that Wagner got injured, and his loss definitely hurt our structural set-up.

Looking forward to the next hit-out.

 

We used to go to pieces for the entire 2nd half!!

[armstrong35 262]

Not sold on Garlett being a lock round 1. If he is he won't be a lock for round two.

Hogan needs to make them second efforts. If he doesn't mark it and the ball is still around him he just stands there and watches the ball.

[Satyriconhome 10,339]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

DC. Saty's criticism of Hunt was a profound moment for Demonland. Please don't call him out on it.

 

Wasn't criticism, an observation, I want him to take the game on, just think he overdid it today at the wrong moments

He also had a couple of good involvements.

Review and go again

As for Tommy Mc, just Tommy Mc, really good defending with the usual couple of lookaway moments

Melksham ran out of petrol towards the end, not surprised

I thought Brayshaw was good,

Would be interesting to see how many interchanges there were

 

[beelzebub 23,198]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

i haven't seen the game, just the radio

what did people think of the standard for a first round practice match compared to previous years? this game or others

Far from shabby...played like real footy

[Satyriconhome 10,339]

13 minutes ago, armstrong35 said:

Not sold on Garlett being a lock round 1. If he is he won't be a lock for round two.

Hogan needs to make them second efforts. If he doesn't mark it and the ball is still around him he just stands there and watches the ball.

Why on Garlett?

[Satyriconhome 10,339]

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Saty, nice to read a post from you that is not all sunshine and roses.

Well done, even though I put Hunts game tonight down to first game rust, not bloaty head.

I never do sunshine and roses, I just don't bag players.

I make observations, thought maybe Hunt 'tried too hard' a couple of times

There was another instance where Viney 'slung' a player in a tackle, that nobody has mentioned, an observation 'he has to be careful with type of tackle'  over enthusiasm

[Skuit 9,958]

16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Wasn't criticism, an observation, I want him to take the game on, just think he overdid it today at the wrong moments

 

 

Otherwise known as a critical observation. It's okay Saty, it's allowed. And it doesn't mean a single thing more than you think Hunt overdid it on occasion.

[dieter 3,325]

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Agreed. He's one of my favorite players but he wasn't poor today. I find it odd that people are laying into Melksham, who was playing his first game in 500 days or so and said nothing about Hunt. Melksham wasn't great, but he showed enough in his first hit out to show why we chased him and that with more game time getting back up to speed he is a lock for the 22 and an important cog to our drive.

Hunt needs to learn not to try to do too much and remember that's he's a defender also. He cost us a few goals today running too far forward and completely misreading the play. Hopefully he learns from it and doesn't become too much of a front runner. His defensive efforts were outstanding last year and he needs to keep that up.

He got caught a lot in the intra-club hit-out last Friday as well. A wee bit of hubris which might need straightening out perhaps?

[Dees2014 2,377]

4 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

We went to pieces mentally in the last five minutes of the second and fourth quarters - I think greater concentration and drilling in what's expected from the senior players will help.

From what I saw, the fringe players will struggle to get in due to the greater depth in our side's make-up.

Spencer, Smith look likely candidates to be best 22 in our side come round 1 - the waxing and waning btw Spencer and Gawn was exciting to watch, just like at the Cats game a couple of years back. Smith just looks all class coming off half-back, but I guess at the moment it's between him and Hibberd, and for mine Hibberd wins?

Interesting with Melksham, he essentially played the 'small defender' role. For mine, Jetta is a walk up start for that gig come Round 1.

JKH and ANB were okay, but nothing amazing. They played their roles but didn't strike me as pushing towards the best side.

Lewis, Jones and Vince swapping between half-back, wing, and inside mid was really good to see. Jones on the outside was arguably the most threatening of the three for mine, but Lewis and Vince were good too.

Some don't like him, but vandenBerg is a monty to be in there come Round 1 for mine. His attack on the ball and the man is really great to watch.

Only issues for mine was how easily T Mac got lead up the ground by Cloke and that Wagner got injured, and his loss definitely hurt our structural set-up.

Looking forward to the next hit-out.

 

Totally agree about Spencer and Gawn. We look a lot better and balanced side with Spencer there. It is interesting that with the commentators waking up about Demon potential they can now see what a menace Max will be as a resting forward. Bring it on I say - and Spencil is a very under-rated ruckman which a number of  sides will come to learn in this current season.

[fr_ap 2,433]

28 minutes ago, dieter said:

He got caught a lot in the intra-club hit-out last Friday as well. A wee bit of hubris which might need straightening out perhaps?

I was critical of him in the intra club and yes, some very slight straightening might be required. I can understand it when the coaches are telling them all to get it into his hands, but he needs to know his limitations. When he plays to them he is a good player. Some of his best involvements today were spoils or intercepts with his high leap - it doesnt necessarily have to be all run n gun. 

Also, he still can't kick that well. At the moment he is a poor man's JJ i reckon.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Are we really going to play two rucks in the real season?

Or was Spencer only in the game so we could keep Gawn away from getting injured before the season starts?

[ILLDieADemon 804]

28 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

Totally agree about Spencer and Gawn. We look a lot better and balanced side with Spencer there. It is interesting that with the commentators waking up about Demon potential they can now see what a menace Max will be as a resting forward. Bring it on I say - and Spencil is a very under-rated ruckman which a number of  sides will come to learn in this current season.

Are we really going to play two rucks in the real season?

Or was Spencer only in the game so we could keep Gawn away from getting injured before the season starts?

 

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,749]

What about those bullet-like passes( one on the left foot) from Chunky. Pure class!

Edited February 18, 2017 by Jumping Jack Clennett
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[RalphiusMaximus 6,012]

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i haven't seen the game, just the radio

what did people think of the standard for a first round practice match compared to previous years? this game or others

We were very fumbly with our hands.  Jones' was the worst, directly gifting his man a goal, but there were many instances where the players didn't take the ball cleannly.  It's something we've had trouble with in the past, and I really hope it's just rust and will be quickly polished off. 

The standard was high mostly.  Very intense and hard at the stoppages.  We have one of the best extraction units in the league and the Doggies have built their side around contested ball, so it was always going to be a battle.  The fact that we beat them in all but one category in the key stats says we're doing something right. 

I'm a little surprised by the lack of love for Garlett today.  He did a great job early on creating goals for us.  I question the AFL site saying he had three assists as I had him with four to halftime.  Maybe I mistook JKH for him?  Except he didn't get credit for any. Who knows.  Regardless, I thought he was selfless and creative and turned half chances into certainties with his vision and passing.  Probably needs to do more defensively, but in terms of scoreboard impact he was as good as any. 

[davo 209]

6 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

-3 votes to Johannisen's haircut.

He's looking for Brownlow votes

[davo 209]

28 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

We were very fumbly with our hands.  Jones' was the worst, directly gifting his man a goal, but there were many instances where the players didn't take the ball cleannly.  It's something we've had trouble with in the past, and I really hope it's just rust and will be quickly polished off. 

The standard was high mostly.  Very intense and hard at the stoppages.  We have one of the best extraction units in the league and the Doggies have built their side around contested ball, so it was always going to be a battle.  The fact that we beat them in all but one category in the key stats says we're doing something right. 

I'm a little surprised by the lack of love for Garlett today.  He did a great job early on creating goals for us.  I question the AFL site saying he had three assists as I had him with four to halftime.  Maybe I mistook JKH for him?  Except he didn't get credit for any. Who knows.  Regardless, I thought he was selfless and creative and turned half chances into certainties with his vision and passing.  Probably needs to do more defensively, but in terms of scoreboard impact he was as good as any. 

Jeffy was good and the fumbling is always around in February

[RalphiusMaximus 6,012]

2 minutes ago, davo said:

He's looking for Brownlow votes

He already conned the AFL into giving him a Norm Smith. 

[davo 209]

1 hour ago, Dees2014 said:

Totally agree about Spencer and Gawn. We look a lot better and balanced side with Spencer there. It is interesting that with the commentators waking up about Demon potential they can now see what a menace Max will be as a resting forward. Bring it on I say - and Spencil is a very under-rated ruckman which a number of  sides will come to learn in this current season.

Looked good with both out there, Max is a bonus up forward, think that was the plan all along, its why Spencer got a new contract last year

[davo 209]

3 hours ago, Bobby Clark said:

Clayton Oliver will be our next brownlow medalist. Lock it in.

 

Clarry is going to be a star, still only 19, by the time he's 22-23 he'll be in the top 5 players in the game

[Pates 9,625]

Melksham was always a pretty middle tier recruit anyway so I think he will need to blow out some cobwebs. 

Ill have a look at the highlights when I get the chance but I think any pre-season comp you start with beating the premiers is a good start to the year. Let's keep building.