3 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Saints do look good though, they have the best bunch of marking talls in the league and jack Steven is on fire in the middle, we will need to be in our mettle to beat them, and must win the stoppages and midfield battle.

I hope we have learnt from the last time we played the Aints, and with what we have seen in their JLT games.....just stick someone on Stevens!.....someone....they don't have anyone else of any damaging ability in the middle, so sacrificing 1 player to stop their clearances will win the game. 

Carlton is stuffed. So long as SOS remains committed to his idiotic strategy of exchanging high draft picks for GWS rejects who can't get a game, they'll continue to tread water in no man's land.

They need to rip off the band-aid, bottom out and stock up on elite talent while at the bottom. Their current strategy is Richmond-esque -- sustained mediocrity.

carlton has also made a habit of not recruiting true mids; they've got a plethora of smaller, zippy half-forwards, but no one in the guts other than cripps is under the age of 27.

40 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I hope we have learnt from the last time we played the Aints, and with what we have seen in their JLT games.....just stick someone on Stevens!.....someone....they don't have anyone else of any damaging ability in the middle, so sacrificing 1 player to stop their clearances will win the game. 

Sounds like a job for Bernie, or maybe viney he will certainly earn every possession 

2 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I hope we have learnt from the last time we played the Aints, and with what we have seen in their JLT games.....just stick someone on Stevens!.....someone....they don't have anyone else of any damaging ability in the middle, so sacrificing 1 player to stop their clearances will win the game. 

Who can stay with him? He is so quick and the second efforts to give and go and receive again are exceptional. 

29 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Who can stay with him? He is so quick and the second efforts to give and go and receive again are exceptional. 

Bernie did the job on Danger and Selwood in 2015.  They didn't get a chance to get the ball let alone go anywhere with it.  He probably can't run with Stevens but he can certainly stop him in his tracks.

Then there is our aptly named, serial pest - Bugg!

And I believe Hibberd doesn't mind having a go...

And if we get desperate, let them pay him some 'close attention' in their part of the ground and at centre bounces.  We now have enough depth to cover a suspension.

And Lewis can join in the party - he knows how to play 'unsociable' footy (but lets not get him suspended).

Edited March 5, 20179 yr by Lucifer's Hero

So who's watching Port v Tiggers? 

 

 

 

Didnt think so

5 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Carlton is stuffed. So long as SOS remains committed to his idiotic strategy of exchanging high draft picks for GWS rejects who can't get a game, they'll continue to tread water in no man's land.

They need to rip off the band-aid, bottom out and stock up on elite talent while at the bottom. Their current strategy is Richmond-esque -- sustained mediocrity.

Except, SOS will need to go too if they're to stock up on elite talent, because he was responsible for drafting all those same GWS rejects the first time.

3 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

So who's watching Port v Tiggers? 

 

 

 

Didnt think so

Not too sure when port are playing on turning up this year 

6 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I hope we have learnt from the last time we played the Aints, and with what we have seen in their JLT games.....just stick someone on Stevens!.....someone....they don't have anyone else of any damaging ability in the middle, so sacrificing 1 player to stop their clearances will win the game. 

Shadow Stevens...wear Nick !! Not hard

A few coaches must be under the pump down there at the bottom of the ladder. That Luke bloke for instance ... 

St Kilda 2 - - 179 86 208.1 8
Melbourne 2 - - 208 148 140.5 8 
Richmond 2 - - 171 124 137.9 8
Gold Coast Suns 2 - - 160 133 120.3 8
 - - - - -  - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - - -
North Melbourne 2 - - 160 137 116.8 8
GWS Giants 1 1 - 112 91 123.1 4
West Coast Eagles 1 1 - 144 122 118.0 4
Sydney Swans 1 1 - 117 107 109.3 
Collingwood 1 1 - 190 181 105.0 4
Adelaide 1 1 - 143 156 91.7 4
Hawthorn 1 1 - 172 189 91.0 4
Brisbane Lions 1 1 - 123 139 88.5 4
Fremantle 1 1 - 139 192 72.4 4
Geelong - 2 - 158 168 94.0 0
Essendon - 2 - 170 184 92.4 0 
Western Bulldogs - 2 - 144 158 91.1 0
Port Adelaide - 2 - 107 136 78.7 0
Carlton - 2 - 92 238 38.7 0

10 hours ago, A F said:

See I agree with everything else here, mate, but I'm not convinced Bolton can coach.

 

I watched the Carlton St Kilda replay last night and the thibg that struck me was Carlton's inability to properly spread from any contest. It reminded me so strongly of Melbourne under Neeld and then this was compounded by their basic skill errors.

If they take this form into the season proper, they'll certainly be wooden spooners. 

I reckon Vince goes with Steven, it can't go with him for speed but he's good enough to know how to make him accountable and be dangerous himself. 

The biggest key to stopping the saints in general is to win the contest

 

I thought we fell for this Stevens sh## last time we played them, and someone else popped up and crapped all over us, looks like he's been eating muscle sandwiches as well. Put Hibberd on him and tell him to be gentle......

Don't think Luke is under the pump yet. Ikon >>> lala land. The spoon might get used to smack some bums come season end.

Bucks would be closer to the front on that queue me thinks.

On 05/03/2017 at 9:28 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

A few coaches must be under the pump down there at the bottom of the ladder. That Luke bloke for instance ... 

St Kilda 2 - - 179 86 208.1 8
Melbourne 2 - - 208 148 140.5 8 
Richmond 2 - - 171 124 137.9 I 8
Gold Coast Suns 2 - - 160 133 120.3 8
 - - - - -  - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - - -
North Melbourne 2 - - 160 137 116.8 8
GWS Giants 1 1 - 112 91 123.1 4
West Coast Eagles 1 1 - 144 122 118.0 4
Sydney Swans 1 1 - 117 107 109.3 
Collingwood 1 1 - 190 181 105.0 4
Adelaide 1 1 - 143 156 91.7 4
Hawthorn 1 1 - 172 189 91.0 4
Brisbane Lions 1 1 - 123 139 88.5 4
Fremantle 1 1 - 139 192 72.4 4
Geelong - 2 - 158 168 94.0 0
Essendon - 2 - 170 184 92.4 0 
Western Bulldogs - 2 - 144 158 91.1 0
Port Adelaide - 2 - 107 136 78.7 0
Carlton - 2 - 92 238 38.7 0

On the flip-side, I'm rather troubled by the company we're keeping at the pointy end. The Richmond Football Club team for instance.

12 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The fact that SOS has recruited so many GWS players is a massive concern.

He also managed to stuff a number of high draft picks at GWS, it's just he had so many of them that it didn't really matter too much.

Imagine if he had recruited well. I remember he picked a couple of Victorian boys together who weren't so highly rated in hopes that they would want to stay which might have been just a rumour.

7 hours ago, Rafiki said:

Imagine if he had recruited well. I remember he picked a couple of Victorian boys together who weren't so highly rated in hopes that they would want to stay which might have been just a rumour.

I think Barry used a similar strategy to great effect

Suns have looked pretty impressive so far against the Dogs, who don't look as though they're trying all that hard.  GAJ has spent most of his time forward and already jagged a couple, he'll be dangerous in that role for them this year.

Wow, you would thing the dish lickers would be tapering to the season a bit more that this.  Flag hangover??

On 3/5/2017 at 8:51 PM, Rafiki said:

Imagine if he had recruited well. I remember he picked a couple of Victorian boys together who weren't so highly rated in hopes that they would want to stay which might have been just a rumour.

Plowman and O'Rourke.

Both highly rated but O'Rourke wasn't seen as a top 5 pick at the time... this did make them pass on Toumpas though.

Wins against a struggling Bulldogs outfit and a woeful Carlton will count for little without a good showing against the Eagles.

35 minutes ago, martin said:

Wins against a struggling Bulldogs outfit and a woeful Carlton will count for little without a good showing against the Eagles.

Have the Dogs put out a decent squad? Iirc they put a reserves team out against the Lions so we've played them at closer to full strength. 

relatively full strength methinks... @Goffer

 

Edited March 9, 20179 yr by Danelska

dogs are getting as much play as the suns on the key stats, just not hitting the scoreboard. cloke with none not helping

3 pints in it with 10 mins to go

[really 9 points if discount super goals]